A possible Iran war with minimal US forces on the ground

[sub_thug]

Iraq was attacked under false pretenses, mostly influenced by Saudi Arabia, Iran trying to help a ally is only natural.

The nuclear deal has been respected what are you talking about?

Who in their right minds want to wage war with a country that is miles away, that will only cause civilians casualties and help radical muslims?

The fuck are you talking about? Saddam and Iran were not allies. The Iranians have been trying to seize control of the Shi'a areas of Iraq forever. Not so coincidentally, that's where the overwhelming preponderance of the oil is located in Iraq. Iran is after one thing: power.

Why did the nuclear deal happen in the first place? Because the Iranians were likely weeks away from having nuclear weapons.

When did I advocate for war with Iran? I just said that they are bad guys in all of this, which they are. Fortunately, the world doesn't operate in black and white. Just because they are our enemies doesn't mean that we need to wage war on them. Just because we aren't waging war doesn't mean that they are our friends.

 

[Rod1]

This forum is fast becoming a leftist echo chamber. I can't find many places where you guys would be the majority on this. Nobody is saying Sunnis or Saudi Arabia are innocent. But to suggest that Iran isn't a terrorist state is just despicable.

Nobody is saying Iran is an innocent actor, but its in a similar position to Israel in which when compared to its neighbours it does looks as better than the alternative.

I fail to understand how any reasonable person can think that they are "good guys." Any explanation of this position will invariably involve, "But the US!..."

There are no good guys in the Middle East.

And lol at calling bombing US soldiers in Iraq as "terrorism", it was an insurgency against a foreign invader.

Terrorism was the bombing of marketplaces by the terrorists the US invasion enabled, killing soldiers in irregular warfare was not.

 

[Gervinho]

The fuck are you talking about? Saddam and Iran were not allies. The Iranians have been trying to seize control of the Shi'a areas of Iraq forever. Not so coincidentally, that's where the overwhelming preponderance of the oil is located in Iraq. Iran is after one thing: power.

Why did the nuclear deal happen in the first place? Because the Iranians were likely weeks away from having nuclear weapons.

When did I advocate for war with Iran? I just said that they are bad guys in all of this, which they are. Fortunately, the world doesn't operate in black and white. Just because they are our enemies doesn't mean that we need to wage war on them. Just because we aren't waging war doesn't mean that they are our friends.

No the bad guys in here is the u.s. there is only one country itching for war and constantly threatening another country and thats the bad guys.

 

[HunterAcosta]

We need to boost the ecnomy more so a war where humans are incinerated is needed. Blood sacrifice for the money God.

 

[sub_thug]

There are no good guys in the Middle East.

And lol at calling bombing US soldiers in Iraq as "terrorism", it was an insurgency against a foreign invader.

Terrorism was the bombing of marketplaces by the terrorists the US invasion enabled, killing soldiers in irregular warfare was not.

No, there aren't.

We sure as fuck can when we are the ones being blown up! You'd have to be a complete bitch to think that someone killing your people is acceptable.

The insurgents killing other Iraqis was terrorism. Insurgents, most of whom are foreign fighters btw, is also an act of terrorism. These aren't mutually exclusive ideas.

 

[sub_thug]

No the bad guys in here is the u.s. there is only one country itching for war and constantly threatening another country and thats the bad guys.

@Tropodan what did I tell you? "But the US!..." Some people are simply beyond hope and reason...

 

[godking]

For the first time the US has the luxury to go to war without being the majority of the forces on the ground but provide with about 10-12% of the ground forces.

The Iran Nuclear deal plus Irans global ambitions and the regional unrest it has created pushed things to a point of no return. A military confrontation at this point is as certain as the white wall on your room is white.

A similar campaign against the Kurds will soon enough come against Iranian IRGC regime. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, UAE, Egypt, Jordan, Indonesia and Malaysia will declare them as terrorist state and all the people and groups linked to it also. No U.N or International laws will be able to politically stand in the way of this intensive hunt and invasion on all individuals allied with the current IRGC led-regime and their political views and they are basically accountable for the destablization of the region and arming the houthis. They will probably declare war on them within the next 1-2 to year if not late this year. The US will mostly definitely join and take this huge opportunity to their advantage and to finally finish off a foe with the asistance of others who have issues with that same foe.

As a result Israel might attack south-Lebanon and even invade it while Yemen will also get fully invaded by the new Saudi coalition either hired Asian army or Egyptians.

Iran is away from war 1 missile launched into another region as it has been providing houthis and this will give the Saudis and their coalitions the green light on international laws to defend it's security against any terrorist entity. The Iranians will soon become Kurds 2.0 once blacklisted worldwide and then you will see an intense manhunt to follow. No International law, United nations, NATO or anyone will be able to contest this or deny it. The Saudi led-coalition will be absolutely in the right to put this to a stop just like how Turkey is hunting the Kurds everywhere they see them from Syria to Iraq. I forsee the Iranian IRGC and the Ayatul Khoemini supporters to come under 10-times larger man-hunt and blacklisted everywhere plus a very large invasion from different axis at the same time happening

The Saudi bloc can't even handle Jemen shepherds.

 

[ultramanhyata]

Don't forget the 3 trillion spent in these wars the average American will pay back.

But UHC or public college is an unaffordable pipe dream...

 

[Rod1]

No, there aren't.

We sure as fuck can when we are the ones being blown up! You'd have to be a complete bitch to think that someone killing your people is acceptable.

You already look like a complete bitch since you didnt do squat against those that led you to war.

This is what not being a bitch looks like.



Yet in America neocons are back in power and a bunch of idiots are supporting them.

The insurgents killing other Iraqis was terrorism. Insurgents, most of whom are foreign fighters btw, is also an act of terrorism. These aren't mutually exclusive ideas.

Again, it wasnt Iran the one bombing marketplaces and religious gatherings, those were GCC supported terrorists.

Iran certainly isnt a nice country, but neither is the rest of the lot in that god forsaken region.

 

[Rod1]

Why did the nuclear deal happen in the first place? Because the Iranians were likely weeks away from having nuclear weapons.

How many weeks exactly?

 

[MikeMcMann]

Saudi funded Sunni radicals attack the US on 9/11.

The US attacks Afghanistan and Iraq.

The US, France, and England attack Libya.

Iraqi vacuum leads to ISIS taking control of massive swaths of the region.

US extends the War on Terror to ... everywhere...

Sunni extremists destabilize Syria with US support.

Houthis revolt in Yemen, a safe haven for AQAP.

KSA use US weapons and logistical support to commit war crimes against Yemenis and create the worst humanitarian crisis of all time (just a couple of years removed from the Syrian refugee crisis).

Meanwhile Iran hasn’t started a war in over 200 years and they’re the cause of the unrest.

I was gonna post my thoughts in this thread, but this post says everything I possibly could and better

This Iran thing by a certain political sect seems like boredom and wanting to pick a fight somewhere just because

Military complex gonna military complex.

The end of the Cold War was one of the saddest days for the Industrial Military Complex. Trillions of dollars spent dwindling before their very eyes.

They need another giant ongoing war and this time one that cannot be won by simply outspending an opponent and The War on Terror fits that bill nicely. But how do you ramp up The War on Terror and make it bigger and ensure its staying power? Well we know that answer. Destabilize the region and any countries who largely have some measure of control over the various factions.

Don't be hatin. Iran is just a little too stable and that is bad for business. Lets crack that egg and let everything flow everywhere and create a giant mess that the Military Complex can profit from for the next hundred years.

 

[mmascene]

The Saudi bloc can't even handle Jemen shepherds.

Had the same thought.
Lol at a united Arab front.
Had to resort to hiring Colombian mercs because they were getting their shit pushed in by some sandal wearing goat herders in Yemen.

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

So Iran is the cause of the regional unrest...?

And Iran, Iran so far away..

 

[Happy Man]

Iran is our natural ally to combat all Sunni salafist wahhabist jihadist terrorist scum. Who are backed by the true enemy, the nefarious house of saud and their corrupt gulf dictatorships, who commonly enslave their foreign workers and truly finance and sponsor terror around the globe.

Western mosques are turning Sunni morons into extremists by taking in Saudi salafist wahhibist imams, teachings and money.

Iran and the Shia just want to not be killed by backwards Sunni extremists. As Syria shows, moderate sunnis join with religious minorities fighting for their lives against gulf sponsored death squads. You want ISIS members offed? Call up the party of God on 911 speed dial and they serve em up on the cold slabs better than any other.

The correct choice in who to back is simple. The Shia. Who don't ever bomb marketplaces and attack "the people". That's always always always the gulf backed terrorists

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

The moment they switch them on they make themselves giant targets for long range missies
They would probably get a kill or 2 but i suspect they wont be any sort of game changer in an all out war, they might be enough to discourage some kind of limited strike or israeli attacks tho

I remember all this doom and gloom about the mighty SCUD missle before Desert Storm. And like, a few weeks later, SCUD became synonymous with punchlines on anything you wanted to describe as worthless crap lmao


If the US knows what they have.. we're already light years ahead of it imo

 

[Squall Leonhart]

We start bombing Iran...what does Russia do as a close ally?

 

[Deleted member 457759]

And lol at calling bombing US soldiers in Iraq as "terrorism", it was an insurgency against a foreign invader.

Terrorism was the bombing of marketplaces by the terrorists the US invasion enabled, killing soldiers in irregular warfare was not.

Shia hit squads in Iraq were not "defending" against invaders. There were no American soldiers deployed to Iran. These Iranian Shia hit squads were capturing American contractors, decapitating them on camera, and then hanging them from bridges in public before putting the videos on the internet to literally terrorize everyone.

You simply haven't a clue what you're talking about.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

Well I look forward to seeing how the S-400 anti aircraft systems Iran has, will stand up against US made air.

My guess, is that it is a good time to buy Lockheed, Raytheon, and Boeing stock, as they are about to have plenty of replacement orders coming in, if this happens.

Meh, Iran military is competent for middle eastern standards but it's seriously lacking in funds. They may have the S-400 but it's probably undermanned and not functioning properly.
If it's an attack by the USA itself it will be easily destroyed, but you're right, if it's an attack by the axis of incompetence it will probably be fireworks over Tehran.

 

[dragonsfly]

The Saudi bloc can't even handle Jemen shepherds.

They won't be doing much of this Invasion anyways except for paying for the expenses and using minimal ground forces and airstrikes. Turkey, US, NATO, Pakistan and Egypt will probably dive in head first and do the hard lifting.

Iran has old and outdated arms and weaponry. This war is going to end real quickly. So everyone can go home early it's not going to be another Syria or Afghanistan. This will end quick and this has been the history of Persia. Invasions came quick and the nation folded real quick and the same thing will repeat itself.

They just don't have the logistical means to defend themselves against this militarily wise they have poor and outdated weapons where as the Saudis, Turks and Pakistanis actully have modern armies. It will end quick nor do the populations have any moral hence they are tired and kept poor with plenty of protests already seen

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

Shia hit squads in Iraq were not "defending" against invaders. There were no American soldiers deployed to Iran. These Iranian Shia hit squads were capturing American contractors, decapitating them on camera, and then hanging them from bridges in public before putting the videos on the internet to literally terrorize everyone.

You simply haven't a clue what you're talking about.

And the US was bombing Iraq to terrorize everyone. Shock and awe it was called.
Moreover these shia hit squads were mostly Iraqi with Iranian advisors. They were obviously defending against invaders. Of course, they were not following the rules of war, and I don't condone decapitating people on camera but it's almost impossible for a weak party to follow rules of war.