Social D.O.T Finally Banned All "Emotional Support Animals" Except Actual Service Dogs in Plane Cabins

I am still laughing that miniature horses are ok.

Yeah can you imagine the discussion when they were going through this? Crossing off goats, pigs, peacocks and moose and someone is protesting that the miniature horse is a must-have?

wtf.

If you need the animal for emotional support and can't forgo it for a short flight I think they should just give you a refund and kindly tell you to fuck off.
 
Yeah can you imagine the discussion when they were going through this? Crossing off goats, pigs, peacocks and moose and someone is protesting that the miniature horse is a must-have?

wtf.

If you need the animal for emotional support and can't forgo it for a short flight I think they should just give you a refund and kindly tell you to fuck off.

Miniature horses are actually recognized along with dogs as the two options for actual service animals (as in serves an actual function other then making their owner feel better) for public accommodations. You can't ban mini horses because then you'd run afoul of the ADA as well.
 
Miniature horses are actually recognized along with dogs as the two options for actual service animals (as in serves an actual function other then making their owner feel better) for public accommodations. You can't ban mini horses because then you'd run afoul of the ADA as well.

I learn something new every day!

still seems fucking ridiculous on a plane
 
Miniature horses are actually recognized along with dogs as the two options for actual service animals (as in serves an actual function other then making their owner feel better) for public accommodations. You can't ban mini horses because then you'd run afoul of the ADA as well.

That is correct.

In addition to the provisions about service dogs, the Department’s revised ADA regulations have a new, separate provision about miniature horses that have been individually trained to do work or perform tasks for people with disabilities. (Miniature horses generally range in height from 24 inches to 34 inches measured to the shoulders and generally weigh between 70 and 100 pounds.) Entities covered by the ADA must modify their policies to permit miniature horses where reasonable. The regulations set out four assessment factors to assist entities in determining whether miniature horses can be accommodated in their facility. The assessment factors are:​

(1) whether the miniature horse is housebroken;
(2) whether the miniature horse is under the owner’s control;
(3) whether the facility can accommodate the miniature horse’s type, size, and weight; and
(4) whether the miniature horse’s presence will not compromise legitimate safety requirements necessary for safe operation of the facility.​

https://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm
 
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Is this a thing or just angry internet stuff?

I fully support service dogs. They help people. Helping people is good.

Helping people is good, but the problem is people are now abusing this "helping people" rule to transport regular animals for free.

See the includes videos on page 1.
 
Helping people is good, but the problem is people are now abusing this "helping people" rule to transport regular animals for free.

See the includes videos on page 1.


lYou'd have to be a real dbag to do this.
 
Helping people is good, but the problem is people are now abusing this "helping people" rule to transport regular animals for free.

See the includes videos on page 1.

those people are a disgrace.

My dog needs his emotion support human though.
 
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They better not mess with my emotional support pet!
 
Airlines group requests limiting emotional support animals to dogs only
By Kristin Lam | June 28, 2018

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The crackdown on suspected fake support animals is reaching a tipping point. A group representing most of the major domestic airlines is asking the Department of Transportation to limit the type of emotional support animals allowed on flights to just dogs.

Airlines for America, which lobbies for nine major airlines, including Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, Hawaiian Airlines, Jetblue, Southwest, and United, submitted a report to the department early this month with requests to tighten rules on emotional support animals.

The report noted the number of passengers wanting to travel with emotional support animals and psychiatric support animals increased by 56 percent from 2016 to 2017. Airlines have also dealt with animals, including wild species, that cannot “behave appropriately in a public setting.”

“This growth in the number of ESAs carried has been accompanied by a surge in the number of incidents involving animals manifesting aggressive behavior (including barking, biting, nipping, growling, and fighting) and uncontrolled urinating and defecating in cabin and in the airport terminal at locations other than service animal relief areas,” read the Airlines for America report.

In late January, a passenger on a flight leaving Newark International Airport claimed a peacock was her emotional support animal. United Airlines did not allow the peacock to board the plane, but photos of the peacock perched on a luggage cart went viral and the incident has spurred new restrictions.



The airlines group argued it has reached a tipping point and that stricter policies for emotional support animals will keep flights safe and orderly and protect passenger health and safety.

Another section of the report supported airlines “seeking more robust proof to support a request for an ESA accommodation” to prove a passenger has a disability and a need for the service animal. Airlines for America added the “cheap and easy availability of fraudulent credentials” from online vendors has contributed to the problem.

Some member airlines are already increasing restrictions on emotional support animals. Last week, Delta Airlines announced it will ban “pit bull type” emotional support and service dogs starting July 10. JetBlue will only accept dogs, cats and miniature horses with documentation submitted at least 48 hours before departure starting July 1.

Beginning that same day, American Airlines will require passengers bringing an emotional support animal to submit three forms: one completed by a licensed mental health professional, one acknowledging the behavior guidelines and, for flights longer than eight hours, one animal sanitation questionnaire.

Airports Council International-North America, which represents and advises most U.S. airports, is also requesting the Department of Transportation clarify what animals are recognized as emotional support animals, according to USA Today.

The department will accept comments related to proposed rulemaking for air travel with service animals through July 9. Currently, airlines fall under the Air Carrier Access Act, which requires allowing passengers with disabilities to travel with an animal that provides emotional support, unless the animal poses a safety threat or concern. Airports meanwhile fall under the American Disabilities Act, which does not consider emotional support animals as service animals.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/06...iting-emotional-support-animals-to-dogs-only/
 
Big Airlines Just Filed a Legal Document to End Ridiculous Emotional Support Animals. It's Absurdly Brilliant
The group represents Delta, United, Southwest, and all the other big airlines, and the petition it filed with the U.S. Department of Transportation is so earnest that it's hilarous.
By Bill Murphy Jr.

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When it comes to emotional support animals on airplanes, truth is stranger than fiction. You've seen the headlines--from Southwest, Delta, and United and others:
Now the biggest U.S. airlines have banded together to try to do something about the situation. The result is a 39-page legal document that starts out earnestly, and ultimately makes clear just how crazy it's all become.

Officially entitled, "Comments of Airlines for America and the International Air Transport Association," the airlines filed it earlier this month with the U.S. Department of Transportation. It reads like a legal brief, but it's more like a position paper, and it starts out dryly enough.

By the time we get to the end, however, it's clear that emotional support animals have gotten way out of hand. The absurdity of the descriptions in this lobbying document might just be enough to finally get the government to do something.

"Barking, biting, urinating and defecating..."

Airlines for America includes most big carriers, such as Alaska, American, JetBlue, Southwest, United, and others. Its filing starts by laying out some of the raw numbers:
  • A 56 percent increase in one year, in the number passengers traveling with emotional support animals. One member airline reports an 8x increase since 2012.
  • An almost uncontrollable surge in passengers trying to travel with "wild and/or untrainable species" that they claim as emotional support animals.
  • A "surge in the number of incidents involving animals manifesting aggressive behavior (including barking, biting, nipping, growling, and fighting) and uncontrolled urinating and defecating...)"
  • Finally, "the cheap and easy availability of fraudulent credentials ... via unscrupulous vendors," that let people with untrained and unsuitable animals claim they're medically necessary support animals.
But wait, the unsuspecting reader might think, reading this for the first time: Aren't there laws that cover all of this? That's where the absurdity really kicks in.

The big, obvious problem

There are a lot of different laws that seem cover emotional support animals, and they sometimes conflict. But Problem #1, according to the big airlines, is that the DOT requires them to let a wide variety of service animals fly, but then never actually defines what a service animal is, or what training or qualifications it needs to have.

Ironically, Other federal agencies do define service animals--for example the Justice Department says "dogs only," but those definitions don't apply to airlines. As a result, you can't bring an emotional support peacock or iguana on a train or a bus or into a retail store, but airlines are on much shakier ground to stop you.

"It strikes most people as absurd that, under DOT's current rules, airlines must consider allowing, for example, pigs and birds to travel in cabin on a case-by-case basis," the airlines wrote.

Instead, they want DOT to copy the Justice Department, and also limit the definition of service animals to include only dogs.

Can we at least agree on endangered species?

You can almost feel the frustration behind the authorship of this document. It starts raising some ridiculous scenarios that appear to be authorized technically under current DOT rules, and asks for guidance or at least an assurance that airlines won't be prosecuted.

For example, the current federal rules seems to allow an individual passenger to travel with as many as three different support animals at once. How is that supposed to work?

"For example, can the passenger control up to three animals simultaneously throughout the journey?" the document asks. "Are the animals trained to behave, including within the confines of an aircraft cabin?"

And, the airlines list some restrictions its members want to start using unilaterally, for example barring passengers from claiming animals like goats, hedgehogs, insects, birds, and any animal on the endangered species list, among others.

Would DOT at least consider exercising its "prosecutorial discretion" not to enforce laws against airlines that "refus[e] to transport animals other than dogs, cats, and miniature horses?" (We don't yet know.)

Emotional support spiders and armadillos

There are some other requests as well--things that I think will seem almost overly reasonable in comparison to the current situation.

The airlines want to be able to require people traveling with support animals to actually check in with a person, rather than simply showing up with an online boarding pass.

And they want the right to ask passengers more questions about the animals, and require them to provide documentation of "vaccination, training and behavior."

But eventually we get to the point that it seems as if the airlines are arguing with an invisible person.

Because there can't really be anyone at the DOT who thinks that the laws are truly set up to protect a passenger who wants to fly with an emotional support spider, for example, or an armadillo.

That would be patently absurd, wouldn't it? I think that's exactly what the airlines want the public to know.

https://www.inc.com/bill-murphy-jr/...l-support-animals-its-absurdly-brilliant.html
 
It won't affect me as i just have an emotional support potato.
 
Miniature horses are actually recognized along with dogs as the two options for actual service animals (as in serves an actual function other then making their owner feel better) for public accommodations. You can't ban mini horses because then you'd run afoul of the ADA as well.

Thanks.
Seemed an odd inclusion.

Gotta ask, how do they help?
 
I have an emotional support bomb that i must carry onto this plane
 
I still don't understand how the TSA allows you to bring an entire zoo on the plane, yet freaks out if you carry cologne.

What a backwards country we live in.
 
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