Bellator 207 Pulls 416k viewers

[Vatenkeist]

The one I don't understand is, the ratings are going down, but the live crowd size is clearly going up.

We're seeing less events held in Casinos and more venues that the UFC would use.

Fact is more people stream now, whether that be by legal or illegal methods. People are cutting the cord on TVs at an alarming rate.

Yehh. +1

YouTube keeps growing as well as Roku/Netflix/Hulu/etc.

I disagree. When I went to strikeforce the undercard and main card was better than Bellator undercard and maiN in the same building. I've never been to a bellator show and been wowd like when they did strikeforce here in San jose, I thought they were better than some of the UFC, wec shows in northern california. Nick Diaz in SF was a amazing atmosphere.

MMA has become very saturated and the UFC does a better job at monopolizing the whole sport. They really don't want another organization being considered as equal as Pride/Strikeforce was back in the day.

California isn't what it used to be. Whole state has really gone to shit in the last few years. The events aren't going to be as exciting as they were 8-10~ years ago. MMA was a lot more "Fresh" back then. Fighters like the Diaz brothers, Daniel Cormier, Dan Henderson, Gilbert Milendez, Chris Cybrog, Luke Rockhold, Tim Kennedy. Society is lame as fuck these days and ya see the lame shitty attitude in the fighters. "Oh great they did well, (shrugs) move on to the next card", or "oh they're not as good as so and so, some other guy from another organization is better". The mystique is gone but Coker still understands it and has been reviving Bellator.

 

[CDF47]

I wonder what the peak is with Fedor. I also wonder what it did on DAZN, internationally,...

 

[tehMoose]

I wonder what the peak is with Fedor. I also wonder what it did on DAZN, internationally,...

Bellator 207 was the Bader/Mitrione card. I'm pretty sure the Fedor card was more successful than 207.

 

[CC27]

Wonder how Fedor/Sonnen did.

These other cards arent surprising, pretty much every Bellator card is gonna do sub 500k now except for a few shows that feature a big name.

Sonnen/Fedor needs to do atleast 700k, it would have done double that two years ago but I'd consider 700k average and a million plus for main event a win for todays Bellator.

 

[CDF47]

Bellator 207 was the Bader/Mitrione card. I'm pretty sure the Fedor card was more successful than 207.

Oh yeah. How did I miss that.

 

[KeeSmyth]

Your personal opinion on going to a live event doesn't affect what I said.

When strikeforce had it's up and comers and champions people always shit on them never gave them credit saying none would be champs in the ufc.Then you see all the people who ended up as champions,title contenders,and ranked in the UFC.

Btw I went to the event in San Jose at the SAP center for the 1 night lhw tourney and it rivaled any strikeforce event i went to including Diaz fights.(I'm from the bay area)

Bellator has quite a few prospects anyone saying otherwise just doesn't know talent.

I agree when UFC bought out Strikeforce I’m pretty sure nobody was talking bout T-Wood being a champ especially after Marquart fight. Same goes for Rockhold who I never called an elite prospect in Strikeforce and was thrown into deep end with title shot.

 

[Buffmeister]

Wonder how Fedor/Sonnen did.

These other cards arent surprising, pretty much every Bellator card is gonna do sub 500k now except for a few shows that feature a big name.

Sonnen/Fedor needs to do atleast 700k, it would have done double that two years ago but I'd consider 700k average and a million plus for main event a win for todays Bellator.

Might be not so much...those events are airing live at like 3am in Europe...

 

[Danespina]

The one I don't understand is, the ratings are going down, but the live crowd size is clearly going up.

TV ratings don't mean what they used to. Most people growing up aren't going to order cable television and watch MMA on a TV channel. Doesn't mean they won't attend events or watch online.

 

[RODNEY83]

Amazing the denial about the atrocious ratings Bellator pulled on from the MMA hipsters on this site. Like sore losers trying to explain the poor ratings by doing the good ole blah blah blah excuses. So apparently Bellator lost money in 2017 and it's well because blah blah blah. Prime example why people fall for scams because there are always people like the MMA hipsters on this site making excuses, looking the other way, trying to over explain something. Fact is Bellator's ratings are atrocious. Fact is Coker is vastly overrated and will always make the worst match ups , sit healthy fighters for too long with no reasoning, drag out tournaments far too long, and release good young fighters for no reason, examples Augusto Sakai, Blagoi Ivanov, and Alexander Volkov, all heavyweights and all in the UFC. In favor of past their prime ex-UFC fighters. Come to think of, the more past their prime ex-UFC fighters Scott Coker has brought to Bellator and pushed them to the forefront, the more the ratings have declined to the atrocious numbers that Bellator has gotten all this year.

 

[M.A.G.A.]

Bellator should switch to a boxing ring instead of using a cage to make things more interesting and be different than the UFC

 

[Crash Lance]

Society is lame as fuck these days and ya see the lame shitty attitude in the fighters.

These days?

Society has always been lame as fuck.

 

[Bobby Boulders]

A lot of these guys are beatable if they get the wrong matchup.

Which is true of just about every fighter ever.

 

[Deleted member 549255]

Amazing the denial about the atrocious ratings Bellator pulled on from the MMA hipsters on this site. Like sore losers trying to explain the poor ratings by doing the good ole blah blah blah excuses. So apparently Bellator lost money in 2017 and it's well because blah blah blah. Prime example why people fall for scams because there are always people like the MMA hipsters on this site making excuses, looking the other way, trying to over explain something. Fact is Bellator's ratings are atrocious. Fact is Coker is vastly overrated and will always make the worst match ups , sit healthy fighters for too long with no reasoning, drag out tournaments far too long, and release good young fighters for no reason, examples Augusto Sakai, Blagoi Ivanov, and Alexander Volkov, all heavyweights and all in the UFC. In favor of past their prime ex-UFC fighters. Come to think of, the more past their prime ex-UFC fighters Scott Coker has brought to Bellator and pushed them to the forefront, the more the ratings have declined to the atrocious numbers that Bellator has gotten all this year.

Hi again Dana

Coker vision = 33 million a year

 

[VulcanNervPinch]

I watched it all on DAZN the next morning

 

[Mentallooser]

DAZN. Thats where I watch all bellator events now, and often watch them back. Looking at paramount viewership at this point doesn't really make any sense. Domestic tv ratings just isn't their goal metric to boost anymore

 

[tithas]

My only compliant is the dead air on DAZN streams during a paramount event is brutal. You can hear the announcers fucking off and breathing and just watching the guys in the cage waiting for the result is boring.

 

[AGEZ909]

The ratings don’t even matter anymore to some point. Bellator is an international company now. They’ve pulled the plug on trying to compete with the UFC stateside. They’re investing internationally and they’re growing their brand. Ppl put too much stock into the domestic ratings when it really isn’t a sign of anything about the company. Of course you want to do well stateside but reality is that nobody in mma is doing well stateside except for a Conor McGregor PPV. They’ve gotten DAZN to invest in them and DAZN will help their standing internationally as well. They’re gonna take over in the U.K. and they’ve already set foot in places like Israel and Italy. Coker and Viacom know what they’re doing. 50 Cent is helping a lot too. In Coker we trust.

i agree with the general point of this, but I wouldnt go so far as to say that ratings dont matter much. they will always matter. that said. i agree that bellator is focusing alot of their efforts on expanding internationally, specifically ireland and Britain.

I know that the DAZN deal gave them much more money to work with, but they still cant just cast ratings like these aside.

all that said, ratings across all of mma are down. ufc is suffering the same thing for the most part. aside from the conor effect, they have also been experiencing downward trends.

Fabian Edwards even said that BAMMA is probably going to close shop as they have nothing scheduled and a ton of their fighters are being released. Tough times for mma, which is why i think that alot are moving over to streaming services.

 

[Bubba32]

The ratings don’t even matter anymore to some point. Bellator is an international company now. They’ve pulled the plug on trying to compete with the UFC stateside. They’re investing internationally and they’re growing their brand. Ppl put too much stock into the domestic ratings when it really isn’t a sign of anything about the company. Of course you want to do well stateside but reality is that nobody in mma is doing well stateside except for a Conor McGregor PPV. They’ve gotten DAZN to invest in them and DAZN will help their standing internationally as well. They’re gonna take over in the U.K. and they’ve already set foot in places like Israel and Italy. Coker and Viacom know what they’re doing. 50 Cent is helping a lot too. In Coker we trust.

I bet the ratings matter to the network its airing on.

You dont think paramount cares about ratings? if bellator gets moved to cmt Bellator will lose alot of exposure.

 

[skylolow]

The problem with ratings is the expectations from fans are much higher than they ever have been. Also when comparing the UFC ratings down to Bellator isn't really best scenario to use as each should stand on its own. Remember UFC is giving fans free shows not showcasing anywhere near the best talent they have most of the time. Bellator has many events where they give us the best they got and the ratings aren't coming through. That is the troublesome part. Now if the UFC was giving us top talent for free on numerous shows and the ratings continue to fall flat with very little peaks then it's panic time.

Fans aren't wasting there time anymore on cards that don't get them excited. This happens in all sports. NFL for example will draw more fans from outside the local markets for Eagles vs Cowboys than Cardinals vs Browns. MMA needs to stop just bending over backwards with these media deals that are forcing so many shows a year or in the UFC's case adjust how they do PPV. UFC has now over doubled there TV contracts revenue world wide over the last year or so and they should've adjust the PPV schedule down to maybe 4 or 6 PPV's max a year. Give us more stars for free and build ratings back up so they can grow the TV revenue even higher as contracts come up in the future. That is sustainable long term, asking fans to pay for PPV 12 times a year you get what we are seeing today and eventually if you continue down that path the TV revenue will shrink because ratings aren't there to support the value. Right now both Bellator and UFC have been able to cash in on this transition period(whatever you want to call it) with streaming vs TV era vs consumers viewing habits changing and companies on both sides are willing to pay top dollar for live content right now to try to win this struggle.

 

[Frank23]

I'm not surprised. Coker has done a terrible job.