Social Biden considers accepting Palestinian refugees

[avenue94]

And they took their shot, and are now ruling over a hole in the ground. Good play, Hamas. Very "strategic".

You're just flailing now. Don't worry, you won't care about it once a the next "Oppression Olympics" event occurs, and you're attached to another slogan.

The fuck are you prattling on about. That you lack even a cursory knowledge of the issue was already apparent, but at least try to read correctly. Israel already tried a strict, militray occupation. It didn't work. Why would we expect it work now?

 

[degoj99]

Yeah.

It's to block a permanent expulsion and land grab that will be associated with decades of terrorism as those people try to reclaim their land.

How's that a clever point to make?

Palestinians belong on Palestinian land.

Nope. Israel bailed from Gaza in 2005. Instead of using the infrastructure Israel left, not to mention all the $ that poured in, the Palestinians did and do what they always do which is murder and mayhem. The murder and mayhem is what Arab countries do not want, which is why they do not want Palestinian refugees.

Note that Israel evicted all Jews from Gaza in 2005. This is the opposite of a land grab right chuckles?

 

[degoj99]

The fuck are you prattling on about. That you lack even a cursory knowledge of the issue was already apparent, but at least try to read correctly. Israel already tried a strict, militray occupation. It didn't work. Why would we expect it work now?

Military occupation works compared to allowing the rodents to dig tunnels and murder 1000+ Israelis. The Palestinians chose their miserable lot. The left needs to get over its love affair with them.

 

[Siver!]

Nope. Israel bailed from Gaza in 2005. Instead of using the infrastructure Israel left, not to mention all the $ that poured in, the Palestinians did and do what they always do which is murder and mayhem. The murder and mayhem is what Arab countries do not want, which is why they do not want Palestinian refugees.

Note that Israel evicted all Jews from Gaza in 2005. This is the opposite of a land grab right chuckles?

Arab countries won't accept a Palestinian exodus because neither those countries nor the Palestinian people want that.

That would only serve to suit Israel in a land grab, which nobody else in the Middle East will stand for.

This isn't complicated.

 

[Siver!]

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[degoj99]

Arab countries won't accept a Palestinian exodus because neither those countries nor the Palestinian people want that.

That would only serve to suit Israel in a land grab, which nobody else in the Middle East will stand for.

This isn't complicated.

Again, Israel left Gaza in 2005. This is the opposite of a land grab. Recall that Israel wanted to give Gaza to Egypt. This is also the opposite of a land grab. Egypt said no thanks because Gaza is full of Palestinians.

You honestly have no damn clue.

 

[The XL]

What is the upside to this for the American people? Why does our government constantly do things that are not in our interests?

 

[Siver!]

Again, Israel left Gaza in 2005. This is the opposite of a land grab. Recall that Israel wanted to give Gaza to Egypt. This is also the opposite of a land grab. Egypt said no thanks because Gaza is full of Palestinians.

You honestly have no damn clue.

"RuSsIa GaVe AwAy UkRaInE, tHaT iS tHe OpPoSiTe Of A lAnDgRaB!"

Yeah.

It's not 2005.

 

[degoj99]

"RuSsIa GaVe AwAy UkRaInE, tHaT iS tHe OpPoSiTe Of A lAnDgRaB!"

Yeah.

It's not 2005.

Honestly you're not even trying at this point LOL.

 

[Siver!]

Honestly you're not even trying at this point LOL.

The point is, what Israel thought 20 years ago isn't pertinent to Israel's ambitions today.

Just as Russia gave Ukraine away, and signed away Crimea, that does not represent their current imperialist agenda.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

What's going to happen, is Israel taking Palestine, officially or unofficially and the population getting with the program, or getting arrested, killed, or both if they don't.

...K.

That's a pretty fucked up thing to support, then.

I generally like most of what you post here. The Israel/Palestine situation will just have to be one of those things we agree to disagree on.

 

[HereticBD]

...K.

That's a pretty fucked up thing to support, then.

It's just a fact.

I generally like most of what you post here. The Israel/Palestine situation will just have to be one of those things we agree to disagree on.

That's fine, but please, stop pretending that you give a shit about Palestine. You're a right winger who would blow a gasket if they were attacking anyone but the Jews. Here's a few random thoughts you've shared on Muslims when they weren't attacking Jews:

It's hard to tell if you're just illiterate or you're being purposefully dishonest. Hijabs are pretty rare in America even among muslim women specifically because they DON'T have to worry about being arrested or assaulted for not wearing one.

The only places in America you do see a lot of hijabs is in majority muslim areas where the women do have to worry about what other muslims might do to them.

The left's kid gloves approach with muslims has led them to believe they can do this type of shit.

If this was christians the left would be united in denouncing christianity. That type of mass social pressure is exactly why christians aren't as militant in America as they used to be. Because the social cost of being a westboro baptist church asshole makes joining that group unappealing.

There is no such pressure on muslims.

And here you are defending these same extremists and their extremist values, because Israel isn't treating them with "kid gloves". Stop trying to have it both ways, and just admit that you hate the Jews more, and that's where your "sympathy" for Palestine is coming from.

 

[Halifax]

Yeah.

It's to block a permanent expulsion and land grab that will be associated with decades of terrorism as those people try to reclaim their land.

How's that a clever point to make?

Palestinians belong on Palestinian land.

Nah, most of them were pretty frank about not wanting the rats coming in with the ships. If they let Palestinians in, they inevitably let Hamas and PIJ in with them. Egypt in particular were transparent about that being the biggest concern and reason for not allowing them to flood over.

They destabilize whatever country they go to and always have. And they absolutely end up biting the hand that feeds like a mad dog.

 

[codfather]

Countries like Kuwait, UAE and Saudi Arabia seem like fairly decent places to live; if you're Arab and Sunni.

Surely they're more appropriate landing spots for Palestinian refugees?

 

[freakroor]

step 1. USA Gov't allows muslim extremists to enter the country

step 2. USA Gov't fails to prevent a terrorist attack on american soil by said muslim extremists.

step 3. USA Gov't uses said terrorist attack as an excuse to seize more power, a la the patriot act post-9/11

...of course there's no way all that could happen, right?

 

[codfather]

Military occupation works compared to allowing the rodents to dig tunnels and murder 1000+ Israelis. The Palestinians chose their miserable lot. The left needs to get over its love affair with them.

Since 2000, Israelis have killed about 17 times as many Palestinians as the reverse.

 

[Halifax]

Countries like Kuwait, UAE and Saudi Arabia seem like fairly decent places to live; if you're Arab and Sunni.

Surely they're more appropriate landing sports for Palestinian refugees?

Kuwait? They said fuck no already. Donate money? Sure. Take Palestinians? No

The past may still sting there. They took hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in in the past. Palestinians flipped loyalties and sided with Saddam Hussein when Iraq invaded and aided iraq in suppressing Kuwait until the usa arrived so kuwait were kinda justified in kicking 400000 Palestinians out. Kuwait then tortured and killed a lot of them for their treachery and the others were forcefully removed.

It was only a decade ago that they even allowed a Palestinian embassy back, and that was a decade after Abbas formally apologized. And he only apologized after Iraq was toast and everyone knows it.

 

[nhbbear]

Children only, please and maybe some properly vetted parents. Dont want any hamas scum spilling in.

My issue is that these are ACTUAL ASYLUM SEEKERS unlike the hundreds of thousands illegally pouring across our southern and porous border that when caught, somehow know to say “soy un refugee, asylum, asylum.soy un amigo de joe biden.” And they will be given a date to determine their case three years in the future free to commit all manner of crimes in the meantime.

 

[codfather]

Kuwait? They said fuck no already. Donate money? Sure. Take Palestinians? No

The past may still sting there. They took hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in in the past. Palestinians flipped loyalties and sided with Saddam Hussein when Iraq invaded and aided iraq in suppressing Kuwait until the usa arrived so kuwait were kinda justified in kicking 400000 Palestinians out. Kuwait then tortured and killed a lot of them for their treachery and the others were forcefully removed.

It was only a decade ago that they even allowed a Palestinian embassy back, and that was a decade after Abbas formally apologized. And he only apologized after Iraq was toast and everyone knows it.

Apologies; I wasn't aware of the history.

 

[Halifax]

Apologies; I wasn't aware of the history.

That's pretty much the history of anyone who takes in a lot of Palestinians.

Jordan took in all of westbank and gave them full rights as Jordanians and seats in parliament. Palestinians then decided they could take over the nation by claiming Jordan was also part of Palestine and tried to have an insurrection and overthrow the monarchy. Which lead to black september. Jordan started shelling the fuck out of the fedayeen(Early hamas militant types)who were embedded with civilians and killed 25000 palestinians until they fucked off to and were allowed in lebanon.

Which fucked over Lebanon, which was at the time a multicultural place, but the balance shifted to islamic militants majority(and they had a civil war a few years later due to the palestinians arriving)


Etc etc

This is a history that repeats itself with Palestinians and the main reason everyone will say "awww, let me send you money and aid.....but stay the fuck out of my country"
Egypt built a wall and flooded nd shelled Palestinian tunnels with them in them to keep them the fuck out