Not for HW. HW has always been shit, but it just might be the worst its been in like 20 years right now.He fought during a weaker era.
Not for HW. HW has always been shit, but it just might be the worst its been in like 20 years right now.He fought during a weaker era.
Cain and DC would beat Fedor and Nog pretty easily imo.1. Fedor
2. Nog
I get it, you are a huge Big Nog fan BUT please stop.Personally, I think it's ridiculous that DC is getting all this talk about being the greatest of all time and all. I don't think lot of people remember, but it wasn't a sure thing that he could cut to LHW because of kidney issues, and this guy WAS a heavyweight who cut to LHW and moved back up. Just because someone's pudgy and 5'11, doesn't mean he's a small guy when that guy is fighting at 250+ pounds at heavyweight, not to mention he got his shit pushed in twice by the same guy at LHW.
Big Nog on the other hand, it looks like lot of people are putting DC over Nog. Big Nog, for the first 9 years of his career, literally lost to one man, Fedor. He lost absolute garbage decision against Hendo, then he lost split decision against Josh and then UDed him, not to mention he won the heavyweight belt at HW in PRIDE and UFC.
I mean, maybe it's not easy to place Big Nog over DC, but it can't be easy to put DC over Big Nog either. This is some ridiculous shit. And if you can ignore DC's loss, not just one but two, against Jon Jones, then why can't you ignore Nog's? Unfortunately for Big Nog, he couldn't move up away from a weight class where he got his shit pushed in like Dc was able to.
1. Fedor
2. Nog
How can it be shitty if you had killers like Fedor,Nog,Sergei,Ricco,War Master,etc...?Not for HW. HW has always been shit, but it just might be the worst its been in like 20 years right now.
I agree with everything except Coleman being a natural LHW.Cain and DC would beat Fedor and Nog pretty easily imo.
The only legit wrestlers Fedor ever faced were 42 year old Coleman, Randleman and Arona, all of whom were natural LHW's and got taken down fairly easily by all three. Like Anderson Silva was with Chael, Fedor was lucky that Coleman and Randleman had bad sub defense, and we all know Fedor didn't actually win against Arona, much like Bas didn't beat Randleman. But Fedor beat an older Matt Lindland, though.
The question isn’t legacy at heavyweight it’s legacy overall and I think DC had Nog beat handily at this point
Legacy has nothing to do with H2H [potential] confrontations, Im afraid...Cain and DC would beat Fedor and Nog pretty easily imo.
The only legit wrestlers Fedor ever faced were 42 year old Coleman, Randleman and Arona, all of whom were natural LHW's and got taken down fairly easily by all three. Like Anderson Silva was with Chael, Fedor was lucky that Coleman and Randleman had bad sub defense, and we all know Fedor didn't actually win against Arona, much like Bas didn't beat Randleman. But Fedor beat an older Matt Lindland, though.
He fought during a weaker era. He was pretty much done by 32 as an elite fighter. He is only a few years older per than "DC? Not is in the legends category but DC has had the better career. If he were to defend the Hwt title against legitimate contender, it makes his case stronger.
Because besides Fedor, if you compare it to other divisions the fighters are not well rounded at all. HW has always been by far the least skilled divisionHow can it be shitty if you had killers like Fedor,Nog,Sergei,Ricco,War Master,etc...?
Yeah you might be right, I just always viewed him as a bloated up LHW with small-ish legsI agree with everything except Coleman being a natural LHW.
What exactly is it about Arlovski, Mir, Nogueira, Werdum, Barnett, etc that isn't well rounded? All of those fighters are just as well rounded as Khabib is, for example.Because besides Fedor, if you compare it to other divisions the fighters are not well rounded at all. HW has always been by far the least skilled division
Nah, he was a huge dude back in the day. He fought at LHW later in life because he wasn't as roided out anymore.Yeah you might be right, I just always viewed him as a bloated up LHW with small-ish legs
hmm...Because besides Fedor, if you compare it to other divisions the fighters are not well rounded at all. HW has always been by far the least skilled division
I like DC but it's Fedor, Nog, and Werdum.
You don't get to jump 10+ years of HW ranked wins because of 1 win against Stipe.
He fought during a weaker era. He was pretty much done by 32 as an elite fighter. He is only a few years older per than "DC? Not is in the legends category but DC has had the better career. If he were to defend the Hwt title against legitimate contender, it makes his case stronger.
Cain and DC would beat Fedor and Nog pretty easily imo.
The only legit wrestlers Fedor ever faced were 42 year old Coleman, Randleman and Arona, all of whom were natural LHW's and got taken down fairly easily by all three. Like Anderson Silva was with Chael, Fedor was lucky that Coleman and Randleman had bad sub defense, and we all know Fedor didn't actually win against Arona, much like Bas didn't beat Randleman. But Fedor beat an older Matt Lindland, though.