Brazil In Turmoil: Jailed for corruption, ex-President Lula registered for presidency bid again

Thousands demonstrate against interim government in support of suspended Dilma Rousseff
By Alex Wheeler
May 18, 2016

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Thousands of people have taken to the streets of Brazil, protesting against the interim President Michel Temer, in support of the suspended leftist president Dilma Rousseff, who is due for trial on charges of manipulating the country's finances in order to gain electoral advantage.

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Demonstrators marched through downtown Rio de Janeiro, waving placards which read 'Temer out' and 'Coup no, culture yes' as they protested against what they say is an illegitimate interim government which took over from President Dilma Rousseff after she was ousted on 12 May.

The new cabinet has been heavily criticised for being made up exclusively of white men, and for folding a ministry of women, racial equality and human rights into the far-bigger ministry of justice, led by a man.

"We are here to defend democracy and to fight against this government. We are taking over the streets and doing everything necessary so Temer leaves the government," student protester, Amanda Magalhaes told Reuters.

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Sao Paulo saw similar demonstrations, with people storming Paulista Avenue holding giant banners and refusing to back down. Such protests have been going on since Rousseff's trial which brought in a centre-right interim government, in a process which many deem a coup.

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Michel Temer has vowed to get Latin America's largest economy back on track after he put an end to 13 years of leftist rule. Yet Brazilian minorities fear that a deep economic recession and the spending cuts which the new government says are essential to recover could mean rolling back progressive policies.

The protesters have pledged to keep the fight, that they will not 'leave the streets' until justice is achieved.

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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/brazil-tho...ment-support-suspended-dilma-rousseff-1560710
 
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Dilma Rousseff, Michel Temer, and the Chronic Dysfunction of Brazil’s Politics
By Alex Cuadros
May 17, 2016

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Widespread anger over corruption helped to bring about Rousseff’s downfall, but in getting rid of her the Congress has swapped one President tainted by scandal for another.


Early last Thursday morning, after Brazil’s senators voted to begin an impeachment trial against President Dilma Rousseff, fireworks crackled in cities around the country. Rousseff was out at last. During her five and a half years in office, she had presided over the country’s deepest recession since the nineteen-thirties, and had been caught in the middle of a giant corruption scandal. Thursday’s vote forced her to step down for the duration of the impeachment trial, and no one expects her to return to power. But by the standards of the recent mass protests against Rousseff, Thursday’s celebrations were muted. In Brasília, the capital, a news photographer’s lens captured a plume of smoke from fireworks rising above the vast lawn of the Esplanade of Ministries, near the National Congress building, where a small group of demonstrators had gathered. Most Brazilians had wanted to see Rousseff go—but now they had to worry about what comes next.

Brazilian politics suffers from chronic dysfunction. More than two dozen political parties hold seats in Congress, and because most of them lack a recognizable ideology governing coalitions are stitched together through patronage—a ministry here, a state bank there. This system explains how Rousseff originally came to team up with Michel Temer, her Vice-President, who is now Brazil’s acting President. Temer was not a member of Rousseff’s Workers’ Party, and never bought into its declared aims of social justice. A lawyer and career politician, Temer was a member of the old political establishment, and Rousseff relied on his skills as a power broker to help her projects get through the legislature. But when public opinion turned against her, so did he. In recent months, he had been openly plotting to take her place.

For more than a decade, Brazil, a deeply unequal society, has been governed by leaders who claim to speak for the poor. Temer represents a break from that approach. At seventy-five, he has sunken cheeks, wears his gray hair slicked back, and speaks a stilted Portuguese associated with the old, urban upper class. A political rival once compared him to a “butler from a horror movie.” On Thursday afternoon, when he made his first televised Presidential address, he promised to deliver “national salvation” and announced a plan to put up millions of billboards around the country that read “Don’t speak of crisis; work!” His voice caught twice during his remarks. When he paused to take a sip from a glass of water, his lips curled into an awkward smile.

Widespread anger over corruption helped to bring about Rousseff’s downfall. But, in getting rid of her, the Congress has swapped one President tainted by scandal for another. Temer leads the Brazilian Democratic Movement Party, which, like the Workers’ Party, has been implicated in the petrolão (or “big oil”) scandal that saw billions of dollars funnelled from the state oil company to off-the-books campaign coffers and Swiss bank accounts. And while Rousseff is not suspected of direct involvement in the scheme, Temer is—as are several of his newly appointed cabinet ministers.

Many Brazilians wanted Rousseff out, but they weren’t calling for Temer. Surveys show that just two per cent of Brazilians would vote for him for President, and that sixty per cent want to see him impeached, too. So far, though, few outside Rousseff’s base on the left have made any public show of disapproval. Some Brazilians are tempted to blame the country’s age-old corruption problems on the Workers’ Party alone, and many others, after a period of bitter political polarization, are simply tired, and have given up on politics altogether. A few small but vocal groups have even called for the military to take over and rule, as it did from 1964 to 1985.

Like many of her supporters, Rousseff considers her impeachment a coup masquerading as legislative procedure. She has made allusions to the military dictatorship, during which she was imprisoned and tortured for her role in an urban guerrilla group. Her rhetoric hasn’t helped her case, but there’s no question that the impeachment process has been essentially political, more about her record as a leader than about the technical issue at hand: whether she committed a “ crime of responsibility” when she authorized spending without congressional permission.

The more urgent issue now, though, concerns Temer’s rise to power. His path to the Presidency may have followed the letter of the law, but he was not directly elected, and he has made few gestures toward representative government. In a country where more than half the population is black or mixed race, his new cabinet is all white and all male. Three of his new ministers are the sons of regional political bosses. Many worry that he might undercut the country’s recent advances against political corruption and graft. But the empresariado—the business class—likes Temer. He has promised to stabilize the economy without asking the wealthy to carry more of the tax burden. To close a gaping budget deficit, he has proposed amending the constitution so that the government is allowed to spend less on health care and education. His advisers have even spoken of limiting the scope of Bolsa Família, the welfare program that pays fourteen million families a dollar or two a day if they send their kids to school. These proposals are far more radical than any put forward by Rousseff’s conservative opponent during the 2014 election.

A majority of Brazilians want a bigger say in the future course of their country. “The country should have the chance to choose its President,” Robério da Costa Oliveira, a thirty-one-year-old shipping-company employee, told me last month, at an anti-Rousseff rally in São Paulo. His dream candidate was Joaquim Barbosa, an Afro-Brazilian who grew up poor and went on to serve as chief justice of the Supreme Court, where he presided over a groundbreaking corruption case against the Workers’ Party. But new elections would require Temer to resign, or be impeached himself. And with the political class now coalescing around him, both scenarios look unlikely: unless those who marched against Rousseff take to the streets again, Temer may be here to stay. Three decades after the military ceded power to a civilian government, Brazil’s latest experiment with democracy is facing yet another identity crisis.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...d-the-chronic-dysfunction-of-brazils-politics
 
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Glad she's out of power, and not because or her, but because everyone she was with are greedy bastards who stole the shit out of our pockets, and guess what ? Michel is one of them. and it will keep happening, but since he will probably do a "little better" than Dilma, people will shut up again making miserable amounts of money per month but happy that is enough to buy a shitty car and fuck their fat girlfriends in it. The fault is all ours, if the Brazilian mindset keep being the same, corruption will always rule.

We want things easy and fast and blame the government for not having it easy in life, instead of working hard and making sure we get what we deserve from it. They can change who's in power everyday, nothing will change, they're all stealing together. there's an empire of corruption ruling the country and it will not fall anytime soon. Wonder how the hell we have money to host the Olympics but don't have to threat people in hospitals or help schools.

This country is dead, is way better to live somewhere else being a victim of xenophobia, is waaay better.
 
Glad she's out of power, and not because or her, but because everyone she was with are greedy bastards who stole the shit out of our pockets, and guess what ? Michel is one of them. and it will keep happening, but since he will probably do a "little better" than Dilma, people will shut up again making miserable amounts of money per month but happy that is enough to buy a shitty car and fuck their fat girlfriends in it. The fault is all ours, if the Brazilian mindset keep being the same, corruption will always rule.

We want things easy and fast and blame the government for not having it easy in life, instead of working hard and making sure we get what we deserve from it. They can change who's in power everyday, nothing will change, they're all stealing together. there's an empire of corruption ruling the country and it will not fall anytime soon. Wonder how the hell we have money to host the Olympics but don't have to threat people in hospitals or help schools.

This country is dead, is way better to live somewhere else being a victim of xenophobia, is waaay better.
you need to get to the root of the problem, the state. is fucking huge. the constitution is garbage too.
but one thing at a time. temer isn't anything special but its HARD to be worse than the workers' party. they're already starting to capitalize these companies that got huge amounts of deficit, and thats a problem. the perfect solution would be to make private all of them and open the markets of these economic sectors, but i know this isn't happening. temer talked about privatizing everything that was possible, let's see what he will actually do
 
you need to get to the root of the problem, the state. is fucking huge. the constitution is garbage too.
but one thing at a time. temer isn't anything special but its HARD to be worse than the workers' party. they're already starting to capitalize these companies that got huge amounts of deficit, and thats a problem. the perfect solution would be to make private all of them and open the markets of these economic sectors, but i know this isn't happening. temer talked about privatizing everything that was possible, let's see what he will actually do

His party did that before and he's probably going to do so, the only thing people are scared of is him cutting those benefits from welfare and the health care that NEVER worked in first place, which would be his go-to move trying to balance economy, i bet he'll cut a lot of things, try to make us "wait" a bit while he fix things and then try to implement it back on his party's way. Either way, we can't afford waiting and brazilians are not doing well, we work like damn horses already to get nothing back.

Things could work out for us if planned before, but the government was clearly focused in showing off to the rest of the world, exposing the "we are a good economy", yes, brazil HAD a good economy but guess what ? they don't invest in people, they invest in shady deals and keep it all to themselves. Brazil's HDI is something to be ashamed of.

We are seriously fucked up and the root of the problem would be the people, if Brazilians didn't liked so much taking advantages of each other, we'd have someone to trust, we have no one :/ there is a lot of problems in the government but to avoid it from existing forever we gotta start being honest and trust each other and think for the nation and not for ourselves first, everything here is corrupt dude. They're making the laws because they know they're breaking them all. That's why no one here goes to jail for shit, unless you steal your neighborhood's chicken.
 
Our bitch ex-president was so high on benzos and other shit she could barely formulate a logical phrase
 
Brazil interim government under fire:
Secret recording reveals plot to impeach Dilma Rousseff to stall the Petrobras corruption probe

By Mauricio Savarese | AP May 23 at 5:00 PM

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Brazil’s interim government came under fire on Monday, as a secret recording emerged of Planning Minister Romero Juca discussing an agreement to push for President Dilma Rousseff’s impeachment to stall a massive corruption probe that has engulfed much of the South American nation’s political class.


RIO DE JANEIRO — Brazil’s interim government came under fire Monday as a secret recording emerged of the new planning minister discussing a purported pact to push for President Dilma Rousseff’s impeachment to stall a huge corruption probe that has engulfed much of the nation’s political class.

Even some allies of acting President Michel Temer called for the firing or resignation of Planning Minister Romero Juca, also a senator who is under investigation in the multibillion-dollar kickback scheme at state oil company Petrobras.

Juca, who seems in the recording to be plotting how to remove Rousseff, initially said he would remain in office only to announce a few hours later that he was taking a leave of absence.

Rousseff, Brazil’s first female president, was suspended from office by the Senate earlier this month for allegedly using accounting tricks to hide yawning deficits in the federal budget to bolster support for her embattled government. She has repeatedly said she did nothing wrong.

“This shows the true reason behind the coup against our democracy and president Rousseff’s mandate,” tweeted Ricardo Berzoini, former minister of political relations who lost his post when Rousseff was suspended. “Their objective is to stop the Petrobras probe, to sweep the investigations under the rug.”

Temer, who was vice president, took over after distancing himself from Rousseff and whipping up votes in Congress for her suspension. He will remain in power while the Senate conducts a trial.

The day began with a published transcript of a conversation between Juca and Sergio Machado, a former senator who until recently headed another state oil company, Transpetro.

Soon after the transcripts were published by the newspaper Folha de S.Paulo, Juca called a news conference and said his comments had been taken out of context. He said he was not pushing to impeach Rousseff, but rather noting that things would be different under a different government, especially in Brazil’s struggling economy.

By the afternoon, the newspaper posted on its website the hour-plus recorded conversation broken up into two parts. Juca never mentions the economy.

The recording is sure to deepen Brazil’s political crisis. Rousseff supporters and the president herself have long argued her administration was the victim of a coup orchestrated by opposition lawmakers, in large part to dilute the Petrobras investigation.

Over the last two years, dozens of the country’s elite, from lawmakers to top businessmen, have been tried and jailed in a probe so large that it has shocked even Brazilians long inured to graft in politics.

Rousseff’s popularity took a hit because of the investigation. Much of the alleged wrongdoing took place while her Workers’ Party was in power the last 13 years, though she herself has never been implicated.

Although she was hurt politically by the probe, Rousseff refused to do anything to tamper with an investigation that she said Brazil badly needs.

The leaked recording was of a March meeting at Juca’s house, weeks before Brazil’s lower Chamber of Deputies voted to send the impeachment measure to the Senate. How the recording was made was not clear.

Juca acknowledged the conversation but said he didn’t know it was made, since he and Machado were alone. The newspaper did not disclose how it was obtained.

In the conversation, Juca said he wanted to keep Judge Sergio Moro out of the Petrobras investigations related to him, others in Temer’s inner circle and Senate President Renan Calheiros. Moro, the lead judge on the Petrobras probe, has moved against people who don’t hold elected offices or Cabinet positions. Only the Supreme Federal Tribunal, the country’s highest court, can decide to charge or put on trial federal lawmakers and Cabinet members.

Out of office, Machado was seen as vulnerable, and according to press reports had been negotiating a plea deal.

“We have to solve this. We have to change the government so the bleeding is stopped,” Juca said in the recording, according to the newspaper account.

Machado responded: “The easiest solution is to put Michel in.” Juca agreed.

Juca said he had talked to unnamed justices in Brazil’s top court and heard that the press and other institutions would lower the pressure once Rousseff was out of office.

Juca also said key figures of the opposition to Rousseff, including defeated presidential candidate Aecio Neves and new Foreign Minister Jose Serra, were “all on the tray to be eaten” by the investigations.


Some of Temer’s allies were quick to say Juca should be fired only 12 days after being sworn in.

“With all this, it is not good that he stays on,” said lawmaker Pauderney Avelino, a Temer ally.

The newspaper O Globo, highly critical of Rousseff, posted an editorial urging the interim president to fire Juca.

Temer’s Brazilian Democratic Movement Party, the largest in Congress that has no particular ideology, has been involved in numerous scandals.

“This is not a surprise because it’s what people expect from an administration led by” this party, said Claudio Couto, a political science professor at Fundacao Getulio Vargas, a Sao Paulo-based think tank and university.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...bd2400-20f1-11e6-b944-52f7b1793dae_story.html
 
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Glad she's out of power, and not because or her, but because everyone she was with are greedy bastards who stole the shit out of our pockets, and guess what ? Michel is one of them. and it will keep happening, but since he will probably do a "little better" than Dilma, people will shut up again making miserable amounts of money per month but happy that is enough to buy a shitty car and fuck their fat girlfriends in it. The fault is all ours, if the Brazilian mindset keep being the same, corruption will always rule.

We want things easy and fast and blame the government for not having it easy in life, instead of working hard and making sure we get what we deserve from it. They can change who's in power everyday, nothing will change, they're all stealing together. there's an empire of corruption ruling the country and it will not fall anytime soon. Wonder how the hell we have money to host the Olympics but don't have to threat people in hospitals or help schools.

This country is dead, is way better to live somewhere else being a victim of xenophobia, is waaay better.

Rise like Lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number.
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you—
Ye are many—they are few.

From Dictatorship to Democracy — summary
TL; DR: Competent strategic planning of political defiance is necessary in order to take down a dictatorship. To be as effective as possible, this strategy must target the dictators’ most important sources of power at their weakest points.

Why strategy is essential:

You are more likely to end up where you want to go

Need to maximize resources since the dictatorship has so much more

Ensures that the current dictator isn’t just replaced by a new one

Keeps you on the offenses instead of just responding to whatever the dictatorship does

Otherwise may just be wasting energy; just doing whatever you feel like doing isn’t likely to be enough to take down the dictatorship. It may even increase the dictatorship’s strength.

PROTIPS:

The movement must be nonviolent.

By using violence, you attack the dictatorship at its strongest point (i.e. military).

Don’t worry about infiltration.

Since it’s bound to happen whether you strive to maintain secrecy or not, you gain more from including as many people as possible than being closed off and allowing paranoia to destroy the resistance group.

Can’t plan just to dismantle the dictatorship; have to also plan the democratic system that will replace it or else another dictator will.

The dictatorship’s power lies in:

Authority: the belief among the people that the regime is legitimate and that they have a moral duty to obey it.

The assistance of the people

Material resources (incl. financial)

Punishment of those who are disobedient

How to dismantle these bases of power:

Delegitimize the regime’s authority (e.g. through symbolic acts)

Overcome the people’s fear and habit of obedience; increase their desire and ability to withdraw cooperation by disseminating stories that illustrate this process

Strengthen social groups independent from dictatorship (isolated individuals not members of groups usually are unable to make a significant impact)

Use strikes, boycotts, economic autonomy, etc. to restrict dictators’ material resources

https://jacklindstrom.wordpress.com/2012/03/01/from-dictatorship-to-democracy-the-executive-summary/



http://www.aeinstein.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/FDTD.pdf
 
The biggest problem with Dilma was not that she was corrupt.
The damage a corrupt politician can cause to a country is relatively small; the problem with her is that she is completely INEPT.

She, single handed, BROKE BRAZIL ECONOMY. That is worse whatever sum a corrupt politician could steal. She, single handed, CREATED A DEBT OF 170 BILLION REAIS.

And no, her impeachment was not a coup. First of all it was a necessity for survival. 2 more years with her and we could be going in Venezuela direction. Second she committed a crime, a fiscal crime. A crime that no one ever had been punished for, but a crime nonetheless.

End of discussion. Latin America left is amazing at destroying countries.
 
And no, her impeachment was not a coup. First of all it was a necessity for survival.

Yes, the plotters who are currently under investigation made that "necessity for survival" quite clear in the leaked recording of their plannings.

Congratulation, now you've got crooked Temer for President, just as they planned. Soon the biggest sharks in the interim government will escape the anti-corruption net, also as planned.
 
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Yes, the plotters who are currently under investigation made that "necessity for survival" quite clear in the leaked recording of their plannings.

Congratulation, now you've got crooked Temer for President, just as they planned. Soon the biggest sharks in the interim government will escape the anti-corruption net, also as planned.

No they will not. Operação lava jato is solid enough and has support for EVERYONE.

There is nothing, absolutely nothing, proved against Temer.

And EVEN if he was crooked, at least he has the right ideas to take the country out of the hole it is in.

Anyway, you are from california and i am from brazil. Want to exchange places? i would give ANYTHING to have been born in a decent country. Unfortunately i was born in a continent doomed by leftists measures.
 
The biggest problem with Dilma was not that she was corrupt.
The damage a corrupt politician can cause to a country is relatively small; the problem with her is that she is completely INEPT.

She, single handed, BROKE BRAZIL ECONOMY. That is worse whatever sum a corrupt politician could steal. She, single handed, CREATED A DEBT OF 170 BILLION REAIS.

And no, her impeachment was not a coup. First of all it was a necessity for survival. 2 more years with her and we could be going in Venezuela direction. Second she committed a crime, a fiscal crime. A crime that no one ever had been punished for, but a crime nonetheless.

End of discussion. Latin America left is amazing at destroying countries.
I partially disagree, her government was both inept and viciously corrupt, the dickheads stole hundreds of billions, they gave money to other left countries and some dictators of Africa.
 
No they will not. Operação lava jato is solid enough and has support for EVERYONE.

There is nothing, absolutely nothing, proved against Temer.

And EVEN if he was crooked, at least he has the right ideas to take the country out of the hole it is in.

Anyway, you are from california and i am from brazil. Want to exchange places? i would give ANYTHING to have been born in a decent country. Unfortunately i was born in a continent doomed by leftists measures.
It looks like America is not that perfect huh? It's also filled with disgusting leftists.
 
Yes, the plotters who are currently under investigation made that "necessity for survival" quite clear in the leaked recording of their plannings.

Congratulation, now you've got crooked Temer for President, just as they planned. Soon the biggest sharks in the interim government will escape the anti-corruption net, also as planned.
The biggest shark, the leader of the gang was Lula, he is soon to be arrested as other criminals from the same party as Temer, who got no crime accusation on him, our president is no saint but he's legally clean.
 
No they will not. Operação lava jato is solid enough and has support for EVERYONE.

There is nothing, absolutely nothing, proved against Temer.

And EVEN if he was crooked, at least he has the right ideas to take the country out of the hole it is in.

Anyway, you are from california and i am from brazil. Want to exchange places? i would give ANYTHING to have been born in a decent country. Unfortunately i was born in a continent doomed by leftists measures.

Yes, they will sit on their hands while they are waiting for the chopping block. Lets see if the Brazilians will take the streets once Lava Jato is defanged.

Move all Brazilians to America and all Californians to Brazil and the roles will be reversed, Brazil is sitting on one of the wealthiest countries in the world, while California was the wild west over a century ago.

Latin America was poor before leftists even entered the scene.
 
In 2012, Petrobras, Brazil's oil company, was the 10º biggest company in the whole fucking world, now it's the 416º. A lot of robbery.
 
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@Arkain2K is there a concise explanation for what Rouseff did wrong? the charges seem to vague and the actions against her seem so swift.
 
The biggest problem with Dilma was not that she was corrupt.
The damage a corrupt politician can cause to a country is relatively small; the problem with her is that she is completely INEPT.

She, single handed, BROKE BRAZIL ECONOMY. That is worse whatever sum a corrupt politician could steal. She, single handed, CREATED A DEBT OF 170 BILLION REAIS.

And no, her impeachment was not a coup. First of all it was a necessity for survival. 2 more years with her and we could be going in Venezuela direction. Second she committed a crime, a fiscal crime. A crime that no one ever had been punished for, but a crime nonetheless.

End of discussion. Latin America left is amazing at destroying countries.

I had a huge argument with an old friend over this, he's on the "this a coup, fuck the elite" side and I'm on the "let's prevent a complete disaster" side. I don't even live in Brazil anymore but I do care for their future and two more years of Dilma would be two more years of an extremely incompetent government and the country would collapse.

I must say I was very sad to hear a lot of non sense from my friend and be accused of supporting the extreme right. He sounded like he had just read the communist manifesto!
 
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