Brazilian Army to take control of security in Rio as violence rises

[Phr3121]

Story: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/16/brazilian-army-rio-de-janeiro-michel-temer

It is about fucking time. Other than the Olympics and the World Cup, this is the first time the military is deployed for a non major world event. The country has slowly drifted downward since a comeback to democracy in 1985. Corruption, crime, and violence has ruled the city for decades. Political corruption at the state and federal level is unprecedented. Bring back military rule - democracy has not worked in Brazil.

"Brazilian president Michel Temer has signed a decree putting the military in charge of security in Rio de Janeiro, following a rise in street crime and drug gang violence. Massed robberies and gunfights during carnival, followed by a storm that killed four and caused chaos, have heightened a sense that the city is slipping out of control."

“I am taking this extreme measure because the circumstances demand it,” Temer said after signing the decree on Friday. “Enough.”

"The Army has operated in Rio during the last year and did so during the Olympics and the World Cup. But Temer’s decree will also put the Army in charge of the city’s police force – the first time Brazil has taken such a decision since it introduced a new constitution in 1988 following two decades of military dictatorship."

"Military intervention is a fraught subject for many Brazilians, though many on the far right increasingly support a return to a military government."

"In 2015, Brazil had a murder rate of 25.2 per 100,000 population. There were a total of 50,108 murders in Brazil in 2015. Another study has the 2015 murder rate at 32.4 per 100,000, with 64,357 homicides."

"150 police officers were killed in Rio de Janeiro alone in 2017. Rio’s police kill and die more than any other force in Brazil."

 

[The ScorpioN]

"In 2015, Brazil had a murder rate of 25.2 per 100,000 population. There were a total of 50,108 murders in Brazil in 2015. Another study has the 2015 murder rate at 32.4 per 100,000, with 64,357 homicides."

Washington DC-esque are the favelas, Joe.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

why would democracy not work there out of curiosity? What went wrong?

 

[Trotsky]

why would democracy not work there out of curiosity? What went wrong?

Concentrations of (largely pre-democratic) capital constantly seeking to undermine and corrupt proper democratic function. Really the same reason democracy repeatedly continues to thrive in the third world.

Of course, this is a very boilerplate and unspecific explanation, and there are more pointed explanations for Brazil I am sure.

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

They just need gun control

 

[Headkicktoleg]

Just don't call it a shithole

 

[Rod1]

Bringing out the military only made things worse in Mexico since it fractured the Cartels without really attacking the corruption problem.

 

[Rational Poster]

They just need gun control

Would probably help if they had less guns in the favelas, for sure.

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

They need

 

[kazam]

Brazil is a dump

 

[Phr3121]

Why would democracy not work there out of curiosity? What went wrong?

There are many factors, but basically it has become a corrupt society. A culture that thrives on being corrupt. Brazil used to be a great country back in the 70s, 60s, and 50s. None of the current shit was happening back than. Yeah, the military wasn't free of corruption either, just not in the scale that you see in government today. The trickle-down effect that starts at the very top and runs on down. A country with so much potential that is constantly being thrown away. Education of the masses plays a big part in it. The average Brazilian does not know how he/she is being screwed by the government or simple does not care. Pacifists by nature, with the exception of the criminal element, they will never revolt against the government.

 

[King of Fists]

Having lived in both the US and Brazil I can tell you the difference that social safety nets make is outstanding.

There are very few social safety nets in Brazil. No medicaid, no SNAP, no welfare. No free assistance for higher education. Public schools are a joke. The end result is a very static class structure; if you're born poor you are extremely likely to be poor and poorly educated all your life.

Oddly enough despite all that I think there is less racism there, but more class warfare, which is essentially what you see now.

 

[lifelessheap]

Send in Colby to take care of the animals.

 

[Stoic1]

The problem with Brazil is that is full of Brazilians.

 

[Phr3121]

Having lived in both the US and Brazil I can tell you the difference that social safety nets make is outstanding.

There are very few social safety nets in Brazil. No medicaid, no SNAP, no welfare. No free assistance for higher education. Public schools are a joke. The end result is a very static class structure; if you're born poor you are extremely likely to be poor and poorly educated all your life.

Oddly enough despite all that I think there is less racism there, but more class warfare, which is essentially what you see now.

I too have lived in Brazil and the United States. There is free health care, free education, and welfare in Brazil. It is not the best, but it is available and free. Some of the best universities in Brazil are free. It is hard to get in though. My ex-wife is from Brazil and came from a very poor background. She is now a doctor, MD. Educated in Brazil. There is certainly less racism than in the U.S. The wealthy in Brazil have always controlled politics. Always have and always will. The wealthy are the ones that brought about the military takeover of the country in 1964.

Brazil is a lot like China in many respects. First world in some areas and third world in others. Like China, Brazil has a space program. They have the capability to go nuclear any time they choose (China is nuclear). Embraer is the third largest producer of civil aircraft, after Airbus and Boeing. It has a relatively big military industry. Tanks, planes, and small weapons. Taurus is a Brazilian company that makes handguns sold here in the U.S. And yet, like China, the country faces poverty, hunger, lack of education and corruption. Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo are the two cities, and states, that run and finance the country. With one or two exceptions, the rest of the states are in the 'red'.

The Brazilian Army ran the country from 1964 to 1985. All the Generals were well educated and came from good social economic backgrounds. If a free people cannot govern themselves properly, they don't deserve a democracy. They need 'daddy' to crack the whip on corruption and keep people in line. Brazil made great strides from 64 to 85. World pressure, and the U.S., eventually made the military turn the country back over to the people. With very few exceptions, things have gone downhill ever since.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Story: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/16/brazilian-army-rio-de-janeiro-michel-temer

It is about fucking time. Other than the Olympics and the World Cup, this is the first time the military is deployed for a non major world event. The country has slowly drifted downward since a comeback to democracy in 1985. Corruption, crime, and violence has ruled the city for decades. Political corruption at the state and federal level is unprecedented. Bring back military rule - democracy has not worked in Brazil.

"Brazilian president Michel Temer has signed a decree putting the military in charge of security in Rio de Janeiro, following a rise in street crime and drug gang violence. Massed robberies and gunfights during carnival, followed by a storm that killed four and caused chaos, have heightened a sense that the city is slipping out of control."

“I am taking this extreme measure because the circumstances demand it,” Temer said after signing the decree on Friday. “Enough.”

"The Army has operated in Rio during the last year and did so during the Olympics and the World Cup. But Temer’s decree will also put the Army in charge of the city’s police force – the first time Brazil has taken such a decision since it introduced a new constitution in 1988 following two decades of military dictatorship."

"Military intervention is a fraught subject for many Brazilians, though many on the far right increasingly support a return to a military government."

"In 2015, Brazil had a murder rate of 25.2 per 100,000 population. There were a total of 50,108 murders in Brazil in 2015. Another study has the 2015 murder rate at 32.4 per 100,000, with 64,357 homicides."

"150 police officers were killed in Rio de Janeiro alone in 2017. Rio’s police kill and die more than any other force in Brazil."

Don't root this on when Temer is the one ordering it.

The military should put a bullet in that guys head.

That would do more to help Brazil then anything.

Temer came to power in a coup. He is not the legitimate leader of that country.

 

[ShinkanPo]

They need

Marcos Parin mga ulol!!

 

[Phr3121]

Don't root this on when Temer is the one ordering it. The military should put a bullet in that guys head. That would do more to help Brazil then anything. Temer came to power in a coup. He is not the legitimate leader of that country.

Yes, Temer did order the Army to take control of security in Rio, so what? It's a first step. Temer is as corrupt as Dilma and Lula, the last two presidents. Temer did not come to power in a coup, Dilma was impeached, he was the vice-president. Was Lyndon Johnson not the legitimate president of the U.S. after Kennedy was assassinated?

 

[44nutman]

Brazil's greatest export is Dat Ass

 

[44nutman]

Brazil's 2nd greatest export