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I would put you my ignore list if i wasn't so intrigued to see actually how shit your posts can get.
I would put you my ignore list if i wasn't so intrigued to see actually how shit your posts can get.
We need to create a system where people don't fail just because of things they can't control, where every man, woman or child has the equal opportunity to become successful in order to contribute and make society better. This is better for everybody. The more people stay in poverty due to environment and circumstance the worse off society is.
That's simple ignorance, though. Ask people what the distribution should be and compare it to what it is.
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Junebugs wish they could be hawks.
Few if any?
I think that statement is easily disproved.
Or maybe they just want to be junebugs with universal healthcare...
First, 2:1 is a landslide.
Second, as many have ponted out, people answer this question based on their perceived distribution of wealth.
Most people have no clue what the score really is
I'm sure they rather be anything besides what the currently are -- bottom rung.
I wouldn't say 30 percent as "few if any" - would you?
I mean, he pre tax poverty rate is around 27 percent, can we now say that is "few, if any" of the population?
Ah, semantics, the last bastion .
You are ignoring the substantive point: people are basing their responses on their PERCEIVED wealth distribution, not the actual.
When asked what is ideal, they say to top 20% should own about 35% of the wealth.
When asked what is actual, they say the to 20% probably owns about 55% of the wealth. THIS is the number that two out of three people think is too high.
But the ACTUAL number that the top 20% owns is about 85%! If you polled people on this scenario (aka, reality) how many would think it is hunky dory?
I think we’re rapidly approaching “few if any” land.
I would put you my ignore list if i wasn't so intrigued to see actually how shit your posts can get.
I would like to pay more taxes in exchange for living in a society where I wouldn’t have to worry that my kids might end up without healthcare or on the street if we get a few bad breaks.But the 20% are the staple of society -- engneers, lawyrs, doctors, business people, ect. Not even astronomical lofty positions -- but tangible and obtainable positions.
If you asked the same people "do you pay too much tax" I would say majority of the lower incomes would say yes -- not recognizing the bottom 45 pay little to no income tax.
If you asked them if the top 20 percent pays nearly 98 of all income taxes, they would probably not know it.
Lucky, you make top 20 percent income, are you giving it back?
But I agree that ignorance is something that people fall to. Sucks to be them
One thing is that people are confusing "economic output and wealth aren't constant from year to year" with "money/resources are infinite," which is a rather huge error, and a significant one. It's not just that they're using the wrong words; the concept in the first (policy with bad distributional effects can still encourage overall growth) is sound while the concept in the second (one person having more doesn't entail another person having less) is wrong.
On top of that, unrelated to this discussion in a direct way but lurking in the shadows, the growth/distribution tradeoff discussion has shifted. It's now the right that is hell-bent on "improving" (from their perspective) income distribution at the expense of growth. I mean, the far left is there, too, but the mainstream left is solidly committed to pro-growth policies (increased high-skill immigration, a move toward free trade, increasing education accessibility, infrastructure improvements, urbanization) and the mainstream right is committed to looting the country on behalf of the rich.
the problem with all these commie cucks is that they just want to get paid for hating on rich people. i'll never be a billionaire oligarch who manipulates the tax system but why the fuck would i want to be?
I would like to pay more taxes in exchange for living in a society where I wouldn’t have to worry that my kids might end up without healthcare or on the street if we get a few bad breaks.
Once you are married have a few kids, a couple cars, some student loans, a house payment, man you see how quick that house of cards could fall.
Having a functional social safety net is good for everyone.
Very few people in this world (relatively speaking) have “fuck you” money.
You classify rich people the same as rapists and pedos? Ok i think we're done here.I will never be a rapist or a pedophile. Nor would I want to be. But I will call those people out as cancers on the society who pose a threat to the security of myself and my loved ones.
Dirt poor blacks from africa moving in America get richer during a lifetime than afro Americans who lived all their live there and for multiple generations. I don’t buy into the generational wealth bs theory.
Its entertaining when you're actually trying to make a point but this is just sad.
My idea of happiness and "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" is to cut the extra nonsense out of your life, have as little responsibility as possible, and have as much time as I want to do whatever I want. You dont have to be rich to do this. You dont have to live on the street either. But it seems most people's idea of this is being rich
But reaching the 999m mark still sucks, now instead of being homeless he works at McDonalds and lives in a trailer. Great.Yes but my argument from the beginning has been that even if you start on the 10000m line, then you can still try to help your situation. then even if your kids start on the 999m line that is moving in the right direction and if it continues then as was stated in a previous thread, the billionaires are passing their money down the generations. somewhere along the line there was a poor guy who started thinking to the future instead of complaining that he doesn't get it for free.
the problem with all these commie cucks is that they just want to get paid for hating on rich people. i'll never be a billionaire oligarch who manipulates the tax system but why the fuck would i want to be?
Its entertaining when you're actually trying to make a point but this is just sad.