Can any case be made for werdum or stipe at #2 all time hw?

[Based and White Pilled]

LoL Fedor almost got outwrestled and almost submitted by a green mark hunts.

Prime Brock would absolutely smash prime Fedor.

Prime Brock is a taller version of Mark Coleman with a less impressive wrestling pedigree

 

[ExitLUPin]

HW GOAT is very hard. Because the talent historically is not there.. 205 actually has the most HOF level fighters all time.. Pride had some good HWs back in the day.. However some of them came to the UFC wiith very mixed to poor results..

This is a myth. Historically HW has one of if not the strongest top 10s ever

Fedor
Nog
Werdum
Stipe
Mirko
Barnett
Cain
JDS
DC
Reem

Peak Shogun got finished by Mark Coleman. Randy finished Chuck, Tito and Vitor in a row after he dropped down after getting finished b2b @ HW. Peak Wand lost to Hunt and got nearly killed by Mirko. Arlovski on the worst stretch of his career (a second away from losing to Fulton) arguably beat Rumble, and was clearly winning the 1st before cage side messed up the timing and give the round extra seconds which Rumble capitalized on. And he was just wall n stalling Andrei and getting his TDs stuffed for most the 2nd and 3rd with his head in his nuts

etc etc

Cro cop literally has three weapons on the feet.
His left high kicks, his left cross, and his left straight. he can't fight when he's moving back or pressured. And he's very easily to hit with a average chin. That's why grapplers and average strikers like Randleman, Schaub, Mir, Roy Nelson, and Gonzaga was able knock him out.

Hes finished fights with leg and body kicks, dropped guys with body punches, finished guys with elbows, but yeah he only has high kicks lol

man some of u idiots just keep exposing urselves

 

[Fesaine]

Prime Brock is a taller version of Mark Coleman with a less impressive wrestling pedigree

Prime Brock is better than prime coleman in every area of mma. The only things prime Coleman can compete with Brock is his physique

 

[pick999]

werdum lost alot of big fights

 

[ExitLUPin]

Prime Brock is a taller version of Mark Coleman with a less impressive wrestling pedigree

Coleman had much better endurance too and his GNP was much better.

 

[ulysse]

Brock Beat Herring.. I want Brock in the Top 5.. Everyone cool with that?

+

 

[Based and White Pilled]

Prime Brock is better than prime coleman in every area of mma. The only things prime Coleman can compete with Brock is his physique

His offensive wrestling is not measurably better. Prime Coleman took down everyone and say what you want about the state of MMA back then (I readily admit the state of striking back then was shit), but there were plenty of guys who could wrestle.

The only thing Brock was markedly better at is being a bit larger.

 

[JBJISGOAT]

Mirko
Werdum
Barnett
Sergei
Couture
Sylvia
Ricco etc etc

Nog has the deepest resume in the divisions history and Fedor is the only guy who was clearly better b/c of their H2H fights strictly. Nog is far superior to any other HW

False. JDS and Stipe have the deepest HW resumes.

 

[Fesaine]

This is a myth. Historically HW has one of if not the strongest top 10s ever

Fedor
Nog
Werdum
Stipe
Mirko
Barnett
Cain
JDS
DC
Reem

Peak Shogun got finished by Mark Coleman. Randy finished Chuck, Tito and Vitor in a row after he dropped down after getting finished b2b @ HW. Peak Wand lost to Hunt and got nearly killed by Mirko. Arlovski on the worst stretch of his career (a second away from losing to Fulton) arguably beat Rumble, and was clearly winning the 1st before cage side messed up the timing and give the round extra seconds which Rumble capitalized on. And he was just wall n stalling Andrei and getting his TDs stuffed for most the 2nd and 3rd with his head in his nuts

etc etc



Hes finished fights with leg and body kicks, dropped guys with body punches, finished guys with elbows, but yeah he only has high kicks lol

man some of u idiots just keep exposing urselves

He doesn't have any leg kicks finish in his pride or ufc career. Again there's a reason why cro cop got KO's and outstruck by Randleman, Mir, Gonzaga, Nelson, Hunt, Jds, Kongo, and Schaub on the feet.

Coleman had much better endurance too and his GNP was much better.

Coleman ground and pound is non existent, he only lay and pray. And his submission defense is 10x worse than Brock

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Not relevant to discussion of invincible Fedor in 2009

What????

Watch the Rogers fight.. He got his nose busted. Got beat up on the ground.. I wish Brock had fought Fedor in 2009... This place would have crashed. Suicide watch...

 

[ExitLUPin]

He doesn't have any leg kicks finish in his pride or ufc career. Again there's a reason why cro cop got KO's and outstruck by Randleman, Mir, Gonzaga, Nelson, Hunt, Jds, Kongo, and Schaub on the feet.

Thanks for proving u have no idea what youre talking about and only started watching MMA during the Honda or Conor hype. Ignored

 

[TR1]

Nope.

 

[Fesaine]

Thanks for proving u have no idea what youre talking about and only started watching MMA during the Honda or Conor hype. Ignored

LOL any current heavyweights in the ufc could finish Yoshida with leg kicks. There's nothing impressive about that performance.

 

[TR1]

What????

Watch the Rogers fight.. He got his nose busted. Got beat up on the ground.. I wish Brock had fought Fedor in 2009... This place would have crashed. Suicide watch...

I wish Brock fought more than 8 times, we would have seen his ratio of winning vs getting his ass kicked probably be 25-75%.

 

[TR1]

LoL Fedor got outwrestled and almost got submitted by a green mark hunts.

Prime Brock would absolutely smash prime Fedor.

Fedor backed Hunt up on the feet, and almost subbed him in the first minute.
Then reversed him and subbed him later.


Brock meanwhile had to pump his ass full of roids to lay on top of an ancient Hunt.

Lmao, Brock is a 5-3 roided can.

 

[TR1]

Literally every MMA GOAT poll on Twitter (which has literally hundreds of thousands voting) has GSP with usually 35% of votes, followed by Jones with 30%, and Fedor has like 1% lmao

It's fucking pathetic

LOL imagine thinking twitter in 2020 is indicative of anything reasonable about MMA.

 

[Versace]

LOL imagine thinking twitter in 2020 is indicative of anything reasonable about MMA.

LOL imagine thinking sherdog in 2020 is indicative of anything reasonable about MMA.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

I wish Brock fought more than 8 times, we would have seen his ratio of winning vs getting his ass kicked probably be 25-75%.

Yes well he fought top guys with 1 fight ever in MMA.. Who fights the former UFC HW Champ with 1 fight?

 

[TR1]

LOL imagine thinking sherdog in 2020 is indicative of anything reasonable about MMA.

Very true.

It is full of formerly banned numbnuts like youself.

 

[DOMMA]

Big nog is 100% #2