Social Candace Owens has been dropped from The Daily Wire.

[KOPPE]

Shouldn't YouTube be flooded with the left wing versions of Crowder/Klug/Dao/Random black conservatives that humiliates conservatives in public since they're not the brightest?

We dont like to bully the handicap and make money out of them.

 

[Loiosh]

I haven't seen these statements you're talking about so if you could link some videos maybe I'd change my mind.

She's a pundit so in some sense putting on a show is part of her job but it doesn't mean its insincere.

I vaguely recall her saying such things but I got a very different impression from it than you did. It came off more as a criticism of Rubin than any hint that she was likely to follow and to me assuming that's what she meant meant seems uncharitable though if you could link to a time she said so I might change my mind.

I'm not that invested in it, I don't follow her that closely. But I do remember when she came out with her story of being assaulted by a homeless person and leftists came at her for it. Some even claimed she was engaging in racist dogwhistling despite the fact that she never mentioned the race of the perpetrator and it turned out that he was white.

If someone is treated that way by leftists its only natural they'd have an issue with it. I don't think that center left liberals have any duty to treat leftists with a light touch, especially not when leftists like Vaush are calling her vile names and assuming the worst of her.

I'm done with this, I have nothing to add. I'm not going to scour Ana material to find her saying what I heard, you'll have to take me at my word or not . Or, you know, look for it yourself. At the end of the day we're arguing about my perception and I'm pretty open to having been wrong.

Vaush is kind of a piece of shit, from what I gather he starts nonsense with people on the fly because it increases engagement. He set his followers on a super leftist pundit I follow who has petty extreme views on Israel/Palestine, and while I think he's more than free to disagree, setting a pack on someone is gutless and despicable.

I know there was a lot of personal baggage between Rubin and TYT. I dislike them all for very different reasons. Ironically I probably liked Ana the best, but not enough to listen to Cenk, who makes me ill.

If Ana is center left I'm not surprised she has problems with extreme leftists, that's how this works. It's a shame she's part of TYT, their brand smells like manure and a lot of people hate them. They spend a ton on advertising and are definitely in it for the cash; I follow someone who recently left them who complained about how wholly click driven they are.

This has been a lot of words to say I'm done with a topic so maybe I'm not. Maybe you've seen more of her stuff and are better tuned in to her drama with leftists (I didn't know about the homeless attack or her NIMBY positions posted by someone else here) but her repeatedly talking about money put me off.

I've already said her going full Rubin is unlikely (and in retrospect probably impossible) but maybe she was just trying to broaden her audience. I don't know. When she debates someone notable I'll tune in, and when someone posts a relevant video of one of her takes I'll check it out. Outside of that, I'll mostly ignore her TYT content on my own.

 

[RemyR]

only fans when?

 

[Loiosh]

Lol the left controls the majority, nice to see you respond to me in this thread but duck and ran out of the thread talking about tariffs when I asked for sources for you claims. Take your time and answer that.

You didn't source your claims which were obviously a copy/paste that didn't actually prove anything and concluded in assumptions. You spent a lot of words to say nothing and ignored the fact they forced Trump to give agriculture bail outs, increased prices across the board for Americans and had the steel industry begging him to stop.

As for media, you're insane. Even if the numbers are competitive (they aren't) the polarization is overwhelmingly conservative. Fox had anchors campaigning on the trail with Trump, something that would have immediately disqualifying just a few years before.

 

[Mack Yancy]

Okay that was pretty funny.

 

[Mack Yancy]

only fans when?

I forgot how low the standards are of the average MMA fan.

Candace is a strong 5 with makeup.

 

[Madmick]

ahahhahahah

Bush, McCain and Romney are fucking Rinos? wtf lol

most of mainstream media is right leaning

what the fuck are you even talking about now?

I don't agree that those men are RINOs, that's absurd, they are all staunch conservatives with much longer and more impressive histories of achievement in actually effecting conservative policies than a man like Trump, for example, but it's equally absurd to opine that most of mainstream media is right-wing.

You are both inhabiting strange planets detached from the reality of earth.

 

[ShadowRun]

You didn't source your claims which were obviously a copy/paste that didn't actually prove anything and concluded in assumptions. You spent a lot of words to say nothing and ignored the fact they forced Trump to give agriculture bail outs, increased prices across the board for Americans and had the steel industry begging him to stop.

As for media, you're insane. Even if the numbers are competitive (they aren't) the polarization is overwhelmingly conservative. Fox had anchors campaigning on the trail with Trump, something that would have immediately disqualifying just a few years before.

Lol are you just wanting to become a full time joke/troll here if so bro by all means be honest about it. Nice chart from 14-24 years ago.. where is the proof of the copy and paste, I will help you out and post our posts about this where you dick-tucked and ran from my last post in that thread. Maybe you have had too many covid vaxs or a paid shit poster, either way be intellectually honest for once.


here are the posts........

Am I really being partisan here or do I actually understand tariffs?

Why don't you try and explain what tariffs do and what effect Trump's had?

Sure, I will play your game since you know more about tariffs then a guy that ran multiple businesses and was president . Your skills > his I get it.

Tariffs taxes/duties on import and export by the gov. They are levied as a % of the value of the goods being exported and imported. its about trade relationships with other countries and can be based on value or quantity, or both.

I'm obviously going to research the very details that Trump did and here you go champ

Section 301 Tariffs on China: Trump initiated a trade war with China by imposing tariffs on billions of dollars' worth of Chinese imports under Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974. These tariffs were implemented in response to concerns about China's unfair trade practices, including intellectual property theft, forced technology transfers, and subsidies to Chinese industries.


Section 232 Tariffs: Trump invoked Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 to impose tariffs on steel and aluminum imports in 2018. The administration argued that these tariffs were necessary to protect national security interests by ensuring a stable and robust domestic steel and aluminum industry.


Bilateral Negotiations: Trump used tariffs as leverage in bilateral negotiations with trading partners, particularly China, Mexico, Canada, and the European Union. The administration sought to renegotiate trade deals and address perceived trade imbalances by threatening or imposing tariffs on imports from these countries.

Tariff Escalation: The Trump administration adopted a strategy of escalating tariffs in response to perceived lack of progress in trade negotiations or to retaliate against other countries' trade policies. This led to a series of tit-for-tat tariff increases between the United States and its trading partners, particularly China.


From what I saw, Trump's management of tariffs was a unilateral approach aimed at reshaping trade relationships and addressing perceived trade imbalances. However, the long-term effectiveness and impact of these tariffs on the global economy and trade relationships remain subject to debate and ongoing analysis. It's usually long term, but feel free to point me to a NPC answer.

So he invoked sections that were already around for decades, was touch on Canada, EU, Mexico and of course China.

I will take that over NAFTA, MFN ( Most favored nation status of China)

TTP Obamas Trans pacific partnership and Obamas failing to act on Steel and aluminum.

Predictable copy and paste ending in "results subject to debate", which they are not. The results are increased costs to American consumers and a pretty big hit to American businesses, who begged him not to implement the tariffs. The result was Trump forced to support American farmers with 30 billion dollars in place of lost trade with China, who simply responded with their own tariffs and purchased elsewhere.

Almost every claim Trump has made about tariffs and their effects has been publicly decried by the vast majority of industry economists who again, begged him not to do it. The increase in American manufacturing and industry Trump promised never happened, just like the factories he promised before he was elected never happened.

You've said how bad Trump is and how much you wish the GOP would move past him but you're always in his corner, spinning his lies. You're bragging about his business acumen despite his many bankruptcies and criminal issues. The man bankrupted a casino, do you have any idea how difficult that is?

Surely you can provide sources with that your saying. Trump tariffs so bad Biden is keeping them why is that
https://www.axios.com/2024/01/05/biden-keep-many-trump-china-tariffs
The Biden administration is moving toward keeping many of former President Trump's controversial tariffs on some $300 billion in Chinese imports in place, and aims to increase duties on electric vehicles and some critical minerals, three sources familiar with the matter tell Axios.

Why it matters: In his bid for re-election, President Biden wants to put his stamp on Trump's tariffs and make the case that his approach is smarter and more strategic

U.S. beverage makers and consumers continue to pay for tariffs on aluminum that the President won’t lift​

He obviously is descent at business he has no business being president but here we are. When people like you go reeeeee literally Hitler it’s easy to defend him. Is it that hard to be intellectually honest about him and his polices ?

For manufacturing

In Trump's First 30 Months, Manufacturing Up By 314,000 Jobs Over Obama; Which States Are Hot?​

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/07/10/in-trumps-first-30-months-
manufacturing-up-by-314000-jobs-over-obama-what-states-are-hot/amp/

Show me some sources that aren’t from partisan outlets. So you went from “ you don’t know tariffs and trumps were bad” to “ well he didn’t create those manufacturing and you eat up what he says”. What’s next calling me racist bigot ?

see my last post? no response from you dick tuck and run, so go ahead and find non partisan sources like I did. I didn't post daily wire or Fox News as a source... I will wait and wait and wait until in some other random thread you try to insult me again and fail.

oh and don't post a graph again from 20 years ago...it confirms the WR opinion you're stupid .

 

[Jack V Savage]

I remember politically incorrect which I liked. He’s always been a Democrat voter hippy. I like tough crowd a lot too btw .

Did you ever watch the show for real? "Politically correct" is what rightists used to call like acceptance of gays and minorities, the way they use "woke" now. So even the show name was the '90s equivalent of "unwoke." Maher was much more aligned with the right in the '90s. Only moved left after his canceling and opposition to Bush, and he was still always moderate. His current views are pretty much mainstream Democrat.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I don't agree that those men are RINOs, that's absurd, they are all staunch conservatives with much longer and more impressive histories of achievement in actually effecting conservative policies than a man like Trump, for example, but it's equally absurd to opine that most of mainstream media is right-wing.

You are both inhabiting strange planets detached from the reality of earth.

It's funny how you can convince rubes that your opinion is a fact if you put it in chart form.

 

[Madmick]

It's funny how you can convince rubes that your opinion is a fact if you put it in chart form.

I'm sorry, it's hard to hear you buried under the mass grave of all your failed economic predictions.

 

[Ruprecht]

I don't agree that those men are RINOs, that's absurd, they are all staunch conservatives with much longer and more impressive histories of achievement in actually effecting conservative policies than a man like Trump, for example, but it's equally absurd to opine that most of mainstream media is right-wing.

You are both inhabiting strange planets detached from the reality of earth.

I don't think @tastaylvr is American.

 

[Madmick]

I don't think @tastaylvr is American.

It doesn't matter. This can be weighed on a global scale.

 

[Loiosh]

Lol are you just wanting to become a full time joke/troll here if so bro by all means be honest about it. Nice chart from 14-24 years ago.. where is the proof of the copy and paste, I will help you out and post our posts about this where you dick-tucked and ran from my last post in that thread. Maybe you have had too many covid vaxs or a paid shit poster, either way be intellectually honest for once.


here are the posts........








see my last post? no response from you dick tuck and run, so go ahead and find non partisan sources like I did. I didn't post daily wire or Fox News as a source... I will wait and wait and wait until in some other random thread you try to insult me again and fail.

oh and don't post a graph again from 20 years ago...it confirms the WR opinion you're stupid .

Man, where to start.

Yes, Biden kept several of the tariffs and has been widely criticized for it. As I keep saying, the costs are hitting Americans. Was this the point you were actually trying to make? Was that you rolling onto your back and lifting your legs up in submission?

Nice one trotting out the old "Trump started better than Obama" schtick, that never gets old. I'm assuming you didn't actually know Obama inherited a recession which he fixed and handed over to Trump, which is why they stack up this way. I'm assuming you're just stupid and didn't know that, otherwise you're just a disingenuous hack. Also, and you probably don't know this, the Labor Department changed the way they calculate job growth; Obama took a hit but Trump was absolutely crushed.

And finally, did you really look at a chart that displayed a trend starting twenty years ago and call it a chart from twenty years ago? Are you really this bad at thinking on your feet?

 

[Ruprecht]

It doesn't matter. This can be weighed on a global scale.

Nah, that chart would be shifted entirely to the right judged from our perspective.
Noone would consider Forbes centre-left.

 

[Madmick]

Nah, that chart would be shifted entirely to the right judged from our perspective.

Silly.

 

[Loiosh]

It doesn't matter. This can be weighed on a global scale.

Is this weighted by viewership in any way? Is it just base outlet number and if so is that a meaningful number?

I've seen similar comparisons that only included the major players that were better in some sense because it let you know how many households were being reached by either ideology.

I like this one because it includes bias AND accuracy, although I'm seeing a lot of criticism of how those factors were determined.

 

[Ruprecht]

Silly.

Groups like Forbes are considered right-wing here and if you said Stars and Stripes was dead centre everyone would assume you were taking the piss.

 

[Loiosh]

It's funny how you can convince rubes that your opinion is a fact if you put it in chart form.

To be fair, rubes love pictures.

 

[Madmick]

Groups like Forbes are considered right-wing here and if you said Stars and Stripes was dead centre everyone would assume you were taking the piss.

Sorry, no. I reject this. And I don't have to accept it because you speculate.

You're just retreating to the same perspectivist refuge that Trumpists do when they don't like an objective, measured reality. Don't like it? Show me. Show me this chart as judged by those belonging to your political spectrum. Because, towards this logic, the three most commonly cited independent watchdog agencies that rate the partisan bias of all these news agencies have been more compellingly demonstrated to wield a left-leaning bias themselves. As I've learned over the past few decades, you liberals possess a feeble grasp of the reality of populist belief.

The fact of the matter is this: there has been a grand undertaking to weigh and assign the partisan biases of all these media groups. Every group that has done so has arrived at the same conclusion. The mainstream media is leftist. Your protests rooted in personal hypothesis hold no value.

I have evidence. You have speculation.