Conservatives, your boy announces he won’t run for re-election and is leaving politics.

[kpt018]

We're either seeing him take a principled stand or coiling up like a rattler. Will be interesting to see which.

Good point, both are possible.

 

[HomerThompson]

What?

Specifically, that Gowdy is a stickler for the law. Captain Benghazi is a partisan ass. He's only a stickler for being a piece of shit.

 

[SBJJ]

We may never know the truth, but many of these guys loath where the party has gone. I'd bet he can't stand the idea of Trump attacking the FBI, Mueller, etc. and the party is going along with it. Gowdy is a stickler for the law!

Uh. He is not fond of the current and past leaders of the DOJ & FBI.

He gets shit for NO reason. He's completely right on Mueller and he's completely right the FBI & DOJ have been out of control. He's also come down on some of the Trump administration for using executive privilege and refusing to testify

He'd be a damn good AG or FBI head

 

[Trotsky]

He’s not a moron.

Anyone who watched the Benghazi hearings or has followed his career since them begs to differ.

 

[SBJJ]

There are much worse people in politics than Trey Gowdy.

You can't say that in here man.

 

[kpt018]

Specifically, that Gowdy is a stickler for the law. Captain Benghazi is a partisan ass. He's only a stickler for being a piece of shit.

He’s a partisan ass for sure and I don’t like him for that or his politics, but why do you take issue with what I said?

 

[kpt018]

Anyone who watched the Benghazi hearings or has followed his career since them begs to differ.

Partisan hack? Check. Dummy? Nope. I saw stuff from him that was could be quite impressive if not so hacking.

 

[kpt018]

Uh. He is not fond of the current and past leaders of the DOJ & FBI.

He gets shit for NO reason. He's completely right on Mueller and he's completely right the FBI & DOJ have been out of control. He's also come down on some of the Trump administration for using executive privilege and refusing to testify

He'd be a damn good AG or FBI head

I’m reading he’s actually telling his party to lay the fuck off Mueller.

 

[Trotsky]

Partisan hack? Check. Dummy? Nope. I saw stuff from him that was could be quite impressive if not so hacking.

So you think he demonstrated a strong intellect, sharp wit, and competent legal acumen during and since the hearings?

During them, Clinton constantly flustered him and made him look like a jackass, and he's been huffing and puffing ever since.

 

[SBJJ]

Partisan hack? Check. Dummy? Nope. I saw stuff from him that was could be quite impressive if not so hacking.

You done fucked up and actually didn't condemn someone your side considers a moron, idiot, hitler, etc.

I'd just quit now because if you continue to argue this you will likely be called an idiot, moron, retarded or a nazi.

Tread lightly

 

[SBJJ]

I’m reading he’s actually telling his party to lay the fuck off Mueller.

I said that! And he's right. Mueller is doing a job, let him do it. And if he finds actual wrongdoing good for him.

 

[Trotsky]

You can't say that in here man.

Well, it's true. He's a charlatan hack, but he's still better than the average Republican.

I remember watching a documentary surround Luis Gutierrez's attempts to achieve immigration reform in 2014, and in it he mentioned Gowdy as being one of the few Republicans who you could actually talk to and they'd understand what you were talking about and not rage quit when they encountered a word or topic they didn't understand.

But that's a low, low bar.

 

[kpt018]

So you think he demonstrated a strong intellect, sharp wit, and competent legal acumen during and since the hearings?

During them, Clinton constantly flustered him and made him look like a jackass, and he's been huffing and puffing ever since.

I’m not qualified to speak to his legal acumen and he looked bad interviewing Hillary. But obviously he was investigating a bullshit claim. What I’m saying is I’ve heard him speak a bunch of times on this and other topics and find him impressive.

Again, the guy is a hack and I hate his politics but is it ok to find him to be intelligent? It’s seems like your implying it’s not possible to be a partisan and intelligent.

 

[HomerThompson]

He’s a partisan ass for sure and I don’t like him for that or his politics, but why do you take issue with what I said?

Calling Gowdy a stickler for the law, as though he's some kind of legal, or moral authority. That's how I read it, anyway.

 

[HomerThompson]

Uh. He is not fond of the current and past leaders of the DOJ & FBI.

He gets shit for NO reason. He's completely right on Mueller and he's completely right the FBI & DOJ have been out of control. He's also come down on some of the Trump administration for using executive privilege and refusing to testify

He'd be a damn good AG or FBI head

 

[HomerThompson]

We're either seeing him take a principled stand or coiling up like a rattler. Will be interesting to see which.

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[Trotsky]

I’m not qualified to speak to his acumen and he looked bad interviewing Hillary. But obviously he was investigating a bullshit claim. What I’m saying is I’ve heard him speak a bunch of times on this and other topics and find him impressive.

Again, the guy is a hack and I hate his politics but is it ok to find him to be intelligent? It’s seems like your implying it’s not possible to be a partisan and intelligent.

Nope, I'm not implying that.

Ted Cruz is a fake, a partisan, and a genuinely evil guy, but Ted Cruz is undeniably a brilliant person. And just about all his Democratic colleagues say the same thing: that he's the worst because he's smart, unlike other members of his party. I have, however, never seen anything from Gowdy that makes me believe he would be considered anything but bottom tier intelligence in the Democratic Party.

You done fucked up and actually didn't condemn someone your side considers a moron, idiot, hitler, etc.

I'd just quit now because if you continue to argue this you will likely be called an idiot, moron, retarded or a nazi.

Tread lightly

You should know that kpt is more of a democratic loyalist than Homer or I. That's not to say he's a partisan or anything, but he's generally a bit more centrist than we are and probably for that reason thereby more likely to be approving of the Democratic Party's comings and goings.

But that's also a tad surprising that he's amenable to Gowdy given that he's a bigger fan of Clinton, certainly, than we are. So it probably does speak to a bit of objectivity on his part.

 

[Trotsky]

He would be a TERRIBLE FBI head, to be sure. He's already shown he doesn't have the principle for it, and the sovereignty of the bureau is important. AG? Sure, he could be a decent AG.

 

[kpt018]

Calling Gowdy a stickler for the law, as though he's some kind of legal, or moral authority. That's how I read it, anyway.

I’m not sure anyone is a moral authority and that’s not what I was trying to say.

 

[HomerThompson]

I’m not sure anyone is a moral authority and that’s not what I was trying to say.

Ok.