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LOL...It's the ASEAN conference now and everything is cleaned up....and weed is almost legal in Philippines.
not where I'm at. I'm in iloilo city. No military presence here.
LOL...It's the ASEAN conference now and everything is cleaned up....and weed is almost legal in Philippines.
Yeah, they want to know everything about you.....I've escaped that nonsense now and live in Cebu. Very popular among the trashy low class DU30 supporters to hate white people these days.There are surveys being conducted? By the Barang-Gays?
Yeah, they want to know everything about you.....I've escaped that nonsense now and live in Cebu. Very popular among the trashy low class DU30 supporters to hate white people these days.
lol...who said anything about military presence? Not gonna quarrel with you, but you are merely confirming your bias. Have a nice trip...sincerely, I mean that.not where I'm at. I'm in iloilo city. No military presence here.
lol...who said anything about military presence? Not gonna quarrel with you, but you are merely confirming your bias. Have a nice trip...sincerely, I mean that.
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There are a lot of poor people in the Philippines. And a lot of stray dogs.
But you westerners are so offended when we eat dogs!
Perhaps one of use can post statistics showing how many deaths occurred due to alcohol withdrawal and how many of them occurred due to heroin overdose? Pointing out that a person CAN die from alcohol withdrawal doesn't mean much when people are not dying of alcohol withdrawal as much as people dying from heroin overdose.
Well, I'm not talking about tobacco which I've never heard anyone dying over except for certain cancers linked to cigarette smoking. But I've yet to hear of a cigarette overdose or someone pulling a home invasion to come up with the money to get a pack of smokes.
And I listed tangibles as opposed to what ifs or possibles. We'll get better traction that way imo.
I beg to differ. You are looking at it from a "self bodily harm" pov. I was looking at it from a "the harm addicts do to others to get what they want" pov since the beginning of this conversation. Even mad man Duterte never cited the self harm argument. His thing seems to be the harm that drug addiction does to people other than addicts and society as a whole. At least that's what he claims publicly.
I'm inclined to agree with you but I would not be surprised if I were to look into it and find out that junkies looking for a fix also accounted for those numbers. That number maybe too big for one city or even one state, but for the entire U.S. it's totally possible. And let's not forget that illegal substances are also included in those numbers so we don't know how many of those 10,000 or so DUI deaths were cases where the guilty parties were under the influence of something other than alcohol. But it's like you said, the INTENT is what separates the two. A DUI death is considered manslaughter while a death during a robbery or home invasion goes to as murder. But if it were up to me people who drive while under the influence would receive the severest possible punishment. I think those people are inconsiderate scum.
Well for the record I VEHEMENTLY disagree with Duterte's program with the lack of due process especially since some people are supposedly dealt with based on suspicion alone which is really fucked up. But I'll say again that no one on earth (including Portugal which I'll get to below) has come up with a viable and "serious crack down" solution to drug addiction and the problems that drug addiction imposes on a given society. It's a shame that some people become so desperate that a solution such as Duterte's sounds almost practical.
I'll put it to you in a way that you should understand. Let's say my professional mma record is 20-0 with only 4 KOs. That's a boring ass resume, no? Now let's say that instead of only 4 KOs the rules were changed to where if I knock a fighter down more than once over the course of a fight then that is recorded as a knockout! And I managed to knock at least 17 out of 20 opponents down two or more times during the fights so now my resume looks lovely; 20-0 17 wins by KO. See the what I did there?
What I am saying is that Portugal has decriminalized recreational drug use and reduced certain drug possession crimes to "minor offenses". OF COURSE this will make the numbers look differently than what they did before Portugal started this thing of theirs. But my MAIN POINT is that Portugal is essentially doing something which I believe Duterte refuses to do which is essentially placating drug addicts instead of trying to clean up their country and completely rid themselves of illegal drug use. Big difference between the two approaches so really shouldn't eve be compared if you ask me. That too helps change their statistics. It's better than nothing sure but as long as you still have broke and jobless drug addicts needing money to pay for drugs, certain amounts of drug possession as still being criminal offenses and people competing for drug business, you will still have ALL of the problems that come with these no matter what "official numbers" say. The Government of the United States has "official numbers" concerning the sexual assault rate in this country. Do you think even for a second that those numbers REALLY reflect the total number of sexual assaults that take place here? Every country fudges their numbers to look better to the rest of the world.
You got any source on this? Because afaik, Drug pushers & dealers are getting executed by their higher ups to remove potential witnesses....and drug pushers & dealers use drugs as well. Media in the philippines are ran by different parties and depending on which way the media is leaning on...they can easily put a swing on the news....and tone down drug dealers as merely users...to make Duterte look bad.For those who don't know Rodrigo Duterte, President of The Philippines, has decided to approach the war on drugs in his country by executing drug users.
You should fly to the Philippines and tell him that yourself....he's one President you don't want to fuck with...he a pussy for taking the easy way out of a hard problem
You should fly to the Philippines and tell him that yourself....he's one President you don't want to fuck with...
idk about that. for sure if it's fist fight. the guy is old...but i believed he's the only president who admittedly said...he has stabbed someone or killed someone...or something to that effect.You wouldn't want to fuck with any president. They are all surrounded by bad ass soldiers\body guard that would kill you in a second. 1 on 1 though I'd fuck this guy up.
PHL gov’t paying ‘keyboard army’ P500 a day to ‘amplify’ public support for drug war —watchdog
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But your dear Prime Minister said he is concerned about EJKs so Duterte must watch out!
Justin "Socks" Trudeau is a brainless, spineless, self-righteous virtue-signalling idiot. Fuck him.
Considering I've posted statistics that are easy to google and contest (alcohol and violence rates, capture rates etc) and all you've contributed statistic wise is an anecdotal story about your home town I think it's your turn to pull out the google.
May I suggest you compare the total deaths from alcohol to the entire illegal drug group rather than comparing OD's to withdrawal deaths which really proves little about the harm.
I was going to break this up again but I hate multi-quote messages and this is kinda pointless. You're looking for a serious crack down and dismiss any alternative action as placation.
Do you actually want make a dent in hard drug addiction or sit on your high horse about how bad it is because you seem to dismiss and ignore facts on whether or not they fit this very narrow simple criteria.
No serious crack down no anything is going to completely remove the drug problem.
You seem to believe in this fantasy world where there's no drug addicts. Drug prohibition has been around almost 90 years and in the hundreds of different countries trying their own various efforts absolutely none have completely succeeded. Nor will anyone anytime soon.
Duterte said in the beginning this would take a few months. It continues even now but it won't last because it's not sustainable. Causes other massive problems mainly in the economy.
Stop being an idealist. This world with out drugs from prohibition has been an abysmal failure in every nation in all of recorded history.
Set achievable goals.
Justin Trudeau is an inspiration, he will help Duterte get the Canadian garbage out of the Philippines.!