Europe needs "6 million immigrants", EU Commissioner for Migration says...

[AGGAMEMNON66]

That is what happens when your populace refuses to make babies.. It is something I don't understand. Why are the native populations of Europe, and to a lesser extent, the whites in the US, not reproducing at replacement or advancement rates? There has to be a reason, and I am just not seeing it.

Guess I could be like the extremists on this forum and blame the Jews, as apparently they are to blame for everything..

I know it sounds crazy, but is it possible we're being lied to about the actual numbers? Assuming for a moment there is a conspiracy (for globalization or whatever your pick is), do you really trust the people dishing out that info to not grossly exaggerate it to create a narrative?


@IDL

 

[BEATINGu]

I am not sure if you are serious or joking?

In case you are serious.
Germany took like around 600.000 - 800.000 per year in the early 90's. People from eastern Europe. Some refugees, lots from Romania, Yugoslavia, Turkey etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Germany
If you think mass immigration is a new thing in Germany you are wrong.
But I do still think you are joking.

No, I'm not joking. How many Ukrianians and Russians (i.e the two slavic countries with biggest populations) has Germany taken. Oh, that's right, none.

LOL @ Trukey being a "slavic country". Are you tripping?

 

[The Beast Within]

this is so fucking bullshit, i'm italian and a lot of my friends can't find a damn job , people here WANT to work but can't find a fucking job

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

Take out the Visegrad group, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovenia, Italy, Spain, and Portugal.

Then yeah sure. Germany needs them but the rest of Europe besides the sissy Nordic states shouldn't have to pay.

 

[snakedafunky]

No, I'm not joking. How many Ukrianians and Russians (i.e the two slavic countries with biggest populations) has Germany taken. Oh, that's right, none.

LOL @ Trukey being a "slavic country". Are you tripping?

Around 1.2 Million Russian and about 250.000 Ukrainians, around 600.000 from Yugoslavia (are those slaves?).
And around 1 million Polish people. But there are a total of around 3 Million Poles in Germany. The immigration has been going on for longer.
Dating back to before WW1. You would not really count them as polish anymore.

You see why I thought you were joking right.
We took in so many that most of those groups have official names to identify that immigrant group.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

No, I'm not joking. How many Ukrianians and Russians (i.e the two slavic countries with biggest populations) has Germany taken. Oh, that's right, none.

LOL @ Trukey being a "slavic country". Are you tripping?

In the long run. Germany is doing Slavs a favor by not taking them into their sick cuck country that is heading to self destruction.

 

[snakedafunky]

Can't do that with 3rd world Dreck though.We need skilled labor.
Japan was supposed to be "doomed" 10 years ago.Theyre doing just fine without sacrificing their Country at the Altar of Globalism

I agree on the skilled labor part.
But you think Japan is doing fine? From my understanding they got massive problems with slow growth and an aging workforce
They fell back into recession in 2015. Nearly escaped it in 2016. But still only very slow growth.

I am not saying their aging workforce is the only issues for that. But it definitely a problem.
But a bit more immigration would certainly help. Not this open border style madness.
But yeah Japan is not doing fine. For several reasons.

 

[Kframe]

I know it sounds crazy, but is it possible we're being lied to about the actual numbers? Assuming for a moment there is a conspiracy (for globalization or whatever your pick is), do you really trust the people dishing out that info to not grossly exaggerate it to create a narrative?


@IDL

Its definitely a possibility, but we have no proof. We have really no way of checking actual statistics so we must "trust" the ones we are given. The question is, if the numbers are true, why are the powers that be pushing for people outside the native cultures to come in mass and not for the native cultures themselves to procreate more? What makes these poor migrants from 3rd world nations so desireable that they would choose them for the replacements..

Maybe the think with the right conditioning and incentives they would be easier to control.

 

[Kframe]

this is so fucking bullshit, i'm italian and a lot of my friends can't find a damn job , people here WANT to work but can't find a fucking job

I thought the EU had all sorts of government socialistic welfare you could enjoy Fun-Employment with.

 

[The Beast Within]

I thought the EU had all sorts of government socialistic welfare you could enjoy Fun-Employment with.

not here, migrants get housing welfare free cigarettes smartphone etcc but we don't get shit

 

[platypus44]

"The 27 [EU states] will need 6 million immigrants in the future," says the European Commissioner. "We will open offices in all countries on the southern shore of the Mediterranean and in West Africa."

http://www.tdg.ch/monde/L-Europe-va-avoir-besoin-de-6millions-dimmigres/story/19455815

It's a foreign-language page. You'll have to use google-translate.

Interesting figure, though... "6 million"... I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

I am not sure WTF this means - 6 million a year, 6 million between now and when an asteroid creates an extinction event, 6 million this generation? I sure as shit don't think they need 6 million a year. And there is a big difference among immigrants. Latin American immigrants moving to Spain might assimilate quickly. Eastern European (non-EU) immigrants would count I guess. And Asian immigrants do well almost everywhere they move. I think that they should open offices in Venezuela (they will have to fly in their own food, toilet paper, and water), India and Southeast Asia. The bulk of the immigrants will still probably come from the Middle East and North Africa but they sure don't need to pour gasoline on that particular fire.

 

[platypus44]

not here, migrants get housing welfare free cigarettes smartphone etcc but we don't get shit

If you give them too much free stuff, they will never assimilate. They will sit around with one another, get pissed off and become terrorists. If you give them the choice between working and starving, they will find jobs, make friends of other religions and races, and assimilate. Of course, if there aren't jobs for them, you are fucking nuts for letting them in in the first place!

 

[The Beast Within]

If you give them too much free stuff, they will never assimilate. They will sit around with one another, get pissed off and become terrorists. If you give them the choice between working and starving, they will find jobs, make friends of other religions and races, and assimilate. Of course, if there aren't jobs for them, you are fucking nuts for letting them in in the first place!

i totally agree

 

[TheGreatA]

If you give them too much free stuff, they will never assimilate. They will sit around with one another, get pissed off and become terrorists. If you give them the choice between working and starving, they will find jobs, make friends of other religions and races, and assimilate. Of course, if there aren't jobs for them, you are fucking nuts for letting them in in the first place!

There's also the legitimate chance that if they starve, they will also become pissed off and become terrorists. In either scenario you're going to have some problems arise, and the sob stories will be told by the party which happens to benefit from them the most.

The right will emphasize the young immigrant males being made dependent on welfare while being allowed to loiter around without a purpose by the leftists, while the left will feign outrage for the horrendous conditions that poor jihadi John was forced to grow up with as a result of the right's negligence, but both will completely miss the forest from the trees. That's why we need an alternative to traditional party politics, to go up, rather than to go around in circles, between the left and the right. We need to be uplifted from this mud-slinging contest that has reduced us to a state of stagnation, and realize that we have a common purpose as a people.

We also need to realize that there is no good end to this story of refugees, not for us, not for them. Deport them as soon as possible and make it very clear that nothing of the sort is going to be allowed to happen, ever again. Safe-zones will be built in future conflict areas and they will be secured under the protection of the Western civilization, to prevent such mass movements of people from happening.

 

[original doom]

And then the someone red weddings the eu. Does anyone think this is the plan...

 

[original doom]

The obsession with population growth must stop.

It wont last. Max 10-15 years...

 

[ObsoleteSoul]

If you give them too much free stuff, they will never assimilate. They will sit around with one another, get pissed off and become terrorists. If you give them the choice between working and starving, they will find jobs, make friends of other religions and races, and assimilate. Of course, if there aren't jobs for them, you are fucking nuts for letting them in in the first place!

Of course they won't. It is the same, sad complex that many entitles kids everywhere have. Get everything from mommy and daddy(host country) for free, and never have to grow up and change in a respectable manner.

 

[BEATINGu]

this is so fucking bullshit, i'm italian and a lot of my friends can't find a damn job , people here WANT to work but can't find a fucking job

It's time to start kicking some far left and corrupt political asses, my friend.

 

[Blackened]

If you replace the population it would be different. But I can't comment on Japan. I am only loyal to the Fatherland so I can't comment what they would say are Japanese people.

If you however take in a few million their children would be German. If you are born in Germany or have a German parent.
And are loyal to the Fatherland. You are now German not Somali.

I'm more German than any Somalian will ever be, born in Germany or not. Eat it. Enjoy your 65 IQ immigrants that will never assimilate and cause crime and reproduce at a higher rate than you, eventually leading to loss of Germany as we know it.

Unfortunately, I think this is the end of the Nordic people. Bring another 6 million in, genocide your people. It will be grand! 6 million is the most ironic number in all of this.

 

[Space]

Europe needs to purge feminism and start having kids.

Time to bring back witch trials.