International Even More War: Iran Kills Pakistani Children in Strike

[Van Daz]

 

[Halge]

So they are both targeting terrorists operating in a small border region? Doesn't sound very escalatory to me.

 

[Goonerview]

So they are both targeting terrorists operating in a small border region? Doesn't sound very escalatory to me.

Yeah, doesn’t sound too bad, except that Pakistan does have a nuclear arsenal.

 

[SummerStriker]

It is crazy Pakistan has nukes and yet no one respects their border.

 

[Siver!]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-68015978

Pakistan has carried out missile strikes inside Iran's borders, after Tehran's attack on Pakistani soil on Tuesday
Pakistan's foreign ministry said the strikes hit "terrorist hideouts" in Iran's Sistan-Baluchestan province
It added that the purpose of the attack was "in pursuit of Pakistan's own security and national interest"
At least nine people have been killed in the attacks, Iranian state media reports
On Tuesday Iran struck targets inside Pakistan's Balochistan province, saying it was targeting the Jaish al-Adl group
Pakistan and Iran have long accused each other of harbouring militant groups that carry out attacks from regions along their shared border

 

[Siver!]

Moscow is watching the escalation in the Iran-Pakistan border region "with alarm", a statement from Russia's foreign ministry says.

The statement adds that "any anti-terrorist operations outside sovereign territory should be conducted in coordination between the states involved."

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what about anti-Nazi special military operations?

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Pakistan launches retaliatory strikes in Iran aimed at separatist militant group​

Airstrikes come after Iran targeted sites inside Pakistan that Tehran claimed were used by a Sunni militant group

Pakistan has launched retaliatory strikes against militants in Iran in response to attacks by Tehran that targeted sites within Pakistan’s borders allegedly belonging to a Sunni separatist militant group.

A statement by Pakistan’s foreign office early on Thursday confirmed it had undertaken “a series of highly coordinated and specifically targeted precision military strikes against terrorist hideouts in Siestan-o-Balochistan province of Iran. A number of terrorists were killed during the Intelligence-based operation.”

The foreign office claimed the strikes were taken due to “credible intelligence of impending large-scale terrorist activities” by separatists being given a safe haven inside Iran’s borders.

At least three women and four children, all “non Iranian nationals”, were killed in the bombings after missiles hit a border village in Iran’s Sistan-Balochistan province according to local media reports.

Pakistan’s foreign office attempted to play down the regional implications of the strikes, stating that that Pakistan “fully respects the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Islamic Republic of Iran” and that the attacks were in pursuit of Pakistan’s own security and national interest.

Pakistan had already condemned Tuesday’s attacks by Iran – against sites Tehran alleged were bases for Sunni militant group Jaish al-Adl – as an “illegal” violation of Pakistan’s airspace and had warned of “serious consequences”.

Pakistan also downgraded its diplomatic relations with Iran on Wednesday, recalling its ambassador from Tehran and expelling the Iranian envoy in Islamabad. Joint naval exercises between the two countries were also called off.

Tuesday’s missile and drone strikes by Iran were in response to a suicide bombing carried out by Isis-K, the Afghan branch of Islamic State, which killed 85 Iranians in the south-eastern city of Kerman on 3 January. Iran has also carried out recent strikes in Syria and Iraq.

Iran has long accused Pakistan of allowing terrorists to hide out in the border region of Balochistan, which was targeted in the strikes, while in turn Pakistan has accused Iran of harbouring militants from Balochistan separatist groups.

However, while Iran has taken low-level action against Balochistan in the past, Tuesday’s strikes were unusually heavy-handed and Thursday’s retaliatory bombings were the first time that Pakistan has responded with comprehensive military action against its neighbour.

Sources in Islamabad said the decision was taken after heavy political and military pressure on the top army leadership to show strength against Tehran.

The military’s decision to respond to Iran with retaliatory strikes raises concern of further escalation in the tension that has been spreading across the Middle East and beyond since the 7 October attacks by Hamas and Israel’s subsequent bombardment of Gaza.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...es-in-iran-aimed-at-separatist-militant-group

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

 

[Videer]

Highly doubt that anything more will come out of this. Pakistan is suffering from enough problems already and now they've struck a few huts for a show.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Let's not forget Iran ordered Hamas to attack Israel on 10/7 to destabilize the talks between Israel and Saudi Arabia. They're also supplying weapons and moral guidance to the Houthi rebels and Hezbollah.

It's a goddamn shame because I am sympathetic to the Iranian people and despise their Islamofascist government. Had the CIA and MI6 not meddled in the 1953 coup d'etat of the democratically elected prime minister Mohammed Mossadegh, we wouldn't have to deal with this shitshow right now.

What makes you say that?

 

[Islam Imamate]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/18/middleeast/pakistan-targets-locations-iran-intl-hnk/index.html

Islamabad, PakistanCNN —
Pakistan carried out a series of deadly military strikes on what it said were separatist militant hideouts inside Iran, in the latest incident across their shared border that has sent tensions between the two neighbors soaring.

The new strikes mean both Pakistan and Iran have now taken the extraordinary step of attacking militants on each other’s soil this week at a time of expanding conflict in the Middle East and wider region.

Islamabad said Thursday its forces launched a “series of highly coordinated and specifically targeted precision military strikes” in Iran’s southeastern Sistan and Baluchistan province as part of an operation called “Marg Bar Sarmachar” — a phrase which loosely translates to “death to the guerrilla fighters.”

Baloch separatists getting BTFO by both sides, not the development I expected.

 

[Wadtucket]

They are essentially bombing the same militia targets so I was right again

 

[Spounman]

A multinational Sunni vs Shia war, what could go wrong?

I was going to ask if Iran and Pakistan are the same type of Muslims.

 

[Wadtucket]

So they are both targeting terrorists operating in a small border region? Doesn't sound very escalatory to me.

They are essentially allies bombing a common enemy, not an escalation of any kind

 

[Wadtucket]

Highly doubt that anything more will come out of this. Pakistan is suffering from enough problems already and now they've struck a few huts for a show.

Alhamdullilah

@Madmick on suicide watch realizing I was 100% correct again

 

[Islam Imamate]

I was going to ask if Iran and Pakistan are the same type of Muslims.

Iran is Shia and Pakistan is Sunni but I think the role of sect is exaggerated a bit. Iran is part of the so called "Axis of Resistance" which is about resisting the global liberal order. We associate them with Shia groups like Hezbollah and the Houthis but they're also willing to make alliances with non-Shia groups like Hamas and have good relations with countries like Venezuela. At the end of the day as long as you agree that "America/Israel bad" Iran is willing to be your ally.

On the flip side Iran is allied with Christian Armenia against Shia Azerbaijan which gets a significant amount of its weapons from Israel. Despite being Shia Muslims, Azerbaijan is a threat to Iran because of the huge population of Azeris in Iran that have been agitating for greater autonomy.

 

[Madmick]

They are essentially allies bombing a common enemy, not an escalation of any kind

Alhamdullilah

@Madmick on suicide watch realizing I was 100% correct again

Wrong again. This was a "retaliatory" strike. That's state language. These groups aren't mutual enemies. They are respective enemies even if the groups share a mutual desire for independence. And the Pakistani strike killed women and children the same as the Iranian strike did.

MSN

Who are the ‘terrorists’ targeted?​

Iran’s target inside Pakistan was the ethnic Baloch and Sunni group known as Jaish al-Adl, meaning Army of Justice, which surfaced around 2012.

It purports to fight for better living conditions in the southeastern Sistan-Baluchestan province, which is Iran’s most impoverished and the longstanding scene of border tensions.

Tehran considers it a “terrorist” group due to numerous deadly assaults on Iranian outposts and security forces near the border over more than a decade. Officials call it Jaish al-Zulm – the Army of Injustice.

The group was born out of Jundallah, another Iranian Baloch group, which Tehran accused of having direct links with the United States and Israel. It was responsible for a string of deadly attacks, including one in 2009 which killed dozens, including senior IRGC officials.

The leader of Jundallah, Abdolmalek Rigi, was captured in a dramatic operation by the Iranian army, with fighter jets forcing the landing of a passenger aircraft taking him from the United Arab Emirates to Kyrgyzstan in 2010. He was executed in Tehran the same year.

Pakistan, for its part, said its targets were the Balochistan Liberation Front (BLF) and Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA), armed separatist groups which have launched numerous attacks inside Pakistan.

The BLF claimed in a statement on Thursday that none of its fighters – known as Sarmachar – were killed, dismissing as fake an earlier statement that had quoted one of its members as confirming air strikes had hit BLF positions inside Iran.

The latest cross-border strikes come against a backdrop of months of border attacks, with the latest attack by Jaish al-Adl on an Iranian border outpost launched from inside Pakistan in December killing 11 police officers.

It has all the markings of typical cold war-type skirmishing via insurgent proxies that these Near and Middle Eastern countries love to utilize so much. Except in this case the states themselves are carrying out the strikes.

The one thing you did get right was they aren't going to war over this. But it is an escalation of whatever the hell is going on between them that was tied up in the suicide bombing on the general's funeral. Iran clearly believes Pakistan is complicit in that alongside other Sunni states it believes aided ISIS-k.

So basically your reading of this, and your prediction for Pakistan's response, was entirely wrong. That's why I'm meming.

 

[Rholk]

It is crazy Pakistan has nukes and yet no one respects their border.

Meh, it's not like there's a proper existential war or even big military operation going on.
It's kind of the "problem" with nukes, you can't really use them in anything short of a last ditch effor to survive.
You use 'm against some minor insurgency or you use them in an offensive/invasion and you'll get condemned, sanctioned or even intervened against.
You use 'm against another nuclear power and you can expect to get nuked backed.

The only thing that would be somewhat acceptable would be to use them if Iran launched some grand invasion of Pakistan and Pakistan winds up beeing completely overrun.

 

[Wadtucket]

you did get right was they aren't going to war over this

Concession accepted

The political theater doesn't mean anything, the bombings are nothing burgers and neither regime actually cares about Balochis

The are giving each other handjobs in the backroom while pretending to be outraged

 

[PBAC]

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/18/middleeast/pakistan-targets-locations-iran-intl-hnk/index.html

Islamabad, PakistanCNN —
Pakistan carried out a series of deadly military strikes on what it said were separatist militant hideouts inside Iran, in the latest incident across their shared border that has sent tensions between the two neighbors soaring.

The new strikes mean both Pakistan and Iran have now taken the extraordinary step of attacking militants on each other’s soil this week at a time of expanding conflict in the Middle East and wider region.

Islamabad said Thursday its forces launched a “series of highly coordinated and specifically targeted precision military strikes” in Iran’s southeastern Sistan and Baluchistan province as part of an operation called “Marg Bar Sarmachar” — a phrase which loosely translates to “death to the guerrilla fighters.”