Fedor Emelianenko or Jon Jones - Who has the most impressive win streak?

[kingmob6]

Fedor beat one dimensional heavyweights, then got knocked out by a middleweight. Truth hurts.

you got comprehension problems, the thread is about their streaks, not their careers. And Fedor was a glorified MW to begin with.

 

[Dick]

Moderator?

Unreal.

Fedors 2 best wins are Cro Cop and Nog. A one dimensional striker and a one dimensional grappler. Like I said, truth hurts.

 

[Oddmonster]

Fedor looked far more vulnerable and was almost finished several times by much more primitive, one dimensional level of competition. While Jones had one moment where TRT Vitor nearly cracked his arm, it was an overweight pure kickboxer in Hunt who took down, top controlled and almost submitted Fedor which was far more unforgiveable. Arguably the best wrestler ever in MMA couldn't even TD or slam Jones while Randleman almost ended Fedor's life with that videogame slam. And then there's Fujita, more of a pro wrestler than a skilled MMA fighter, almost knocking Fedor out cold while nobody has ever managed to hurt Jones standing. Or the car mechanic in Rogers breaking Fedor's nose with a jab, reversing him and giving him a serious run for his money. Imagine the backlash if that happened to Jones.

I also love how you have to keep making these cutoffs in the time frames in order to give Fedor a bigger chance in this discussion. Like no the Arona fight doesn't count. And no the Strikeforce fights don't count even though he was obviously still in his prime. But Jones' entire decade and a half career can be used against him.

According to the rules, Fedor beat Arona. It is what it is. Even if you sit down and watch the fights as a Fedor hater - if you have read the rules, Fedor wins.

And sure Fedor looked more vulnerable - he was a tiny HW fighting huge HW's and winning. He also fought to his opponents strength.

Jon was a big LHW with insane physical advantages fighting people that was usually smaller then him. And the fights vs Reyes and Gunnar had Jones loooking worse then Fedor ever did. And jones was doping + poking peoples eyes.

Honestly, unless the LHW's opponents were all phaenomenal, a HW's winstreak will always be better. There is a reason so many HW's cut to LHW to hide away from the power.

 

[Dick]

you got comprehension problems, the thread is about their streaks, not their careers. And Fedor was a glorified MW to begin with.

My comprehension is just fine. We're talking about win streaks, and Jon fought much more talented, well rounded fighters.

 

[kingmob6]

My comprehension is just fine. We're talking about win streaks, and Jon fought much more talented, well rounded fighters.

See, your comprehension is shit, you just doubled down on stupidity.

 

[Oddmonster]

My comprehension is just fine. We're talking about win streaks, and Jon fought much more talented, well rounded fighters.

Why do you think Jones, who weighed more then Fedor, stayed at LHW for so long cutting weight, and only went to HW when he was like 270lbs walking around weight?

 

[Holyherb420]

Same people that voted fedor think jones should fight aspinall but are fine with fedor crushing cans

 

[Dick]

Why do you think Jones, who weighed more then Fedor, stayed at LHW for so long cutting weight, and only went to HW when he was like 270lbs walking around weight?

LHW has the more talented fighters. HW is where all the guys too lazy to cut weight fight.

 

[Oddmonster]

LHW has the more talented fighters. HW is where all the guys too lazy to cut weight fight.

Ahh so Jon spent 4 years to become 270+lbs because he is too lazy to cut weight, not because he needed to be at the limit of HW weight like he was at LHW to gain a competitive edge.....Dude you got some great insights.

 

[nonoob]

Fedor never even fought Barnett and missed out on the majority of the top UFC fighters of the era instead opting to compete in freak show fights in random promotions for years post-Pride.

Um, surely the UFC's lucrative and non-restrictive contracts had no effect on

warriors being able to make the wise choices of using THEIR OWN NAME and

likeness for THEIR OWN best interests.


Making decisions how to feed their families during and after their career is over

should ALWAYS revert to UFC, not the men risking their life and health by getting

in the cage with another man whose only intent is to use extreme violence to

leave you helpless or unconscious.

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[Dick]

Ahh so Jon spent 4 years to become 270+lbs because he is too lazy to cut weight, not because he needed to be at the limit of HW weight like he was at LHW to gain a competitive edge.....Dude you got some great insights.

Jon is the GOAT and will do as he pleases. Until someone legitimately beats him he calls the shots. Hasn't lost since 2009. Moved up to heavyweight and destroyed the #1 contender in 2 minutes without getting hit.

 

[Fight Professor]

Jones because he had fought in a more well rounded division and his longevity is insane. While the have a similar number of fights at their peaks, Fedor's resume has a lot of no names or freak match ups.

 

[Oddmonster]

Jon is the GOAT and will do as he pleases. Until someone legitimately beats him he calls the shots. Hasn't lost since 2009. Moved up to heavyweight and destroyed the #1 contender in 2 minutes without getting hit.

Yes, that was impressive how he grapplefucked Gane. With Ganes fantastic grappling that result came as a huge surprise to everyone.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Fedor because he didn't need roids to do it.
All three Jones brothers are roiding, cheating sociopaths.

 

[Dick]

Yes, that was impressive how he grapplefucked Gane. With Ganes fantastic grappling that result came as a huge surprise to everyone.

Until Aspinall or Pavlovich fight Gane, there's no telling how truly impressive that win is.

 

[TheBulge]

According to the rules, Fedor beat Arona. It is what it is. Even if you sit down and watch the fights as a Fedor hater - if you have read the rules, Fedor wins.

And apply this to all of Jon's close fights and there goes your argument. And lastly atleast Jones had close fights against guys his size. Arona by all accounts was a MW. Fedor's career is littered with bad performances against MW, despite you claiming he's laughably HW GOAT.

And sure Fedor looked more vulnerable - he was a tiny HW fighting huge HW's and winning. He also fought to his opponents strength.

So did Jones. Outstruck strikers like Machida, Rua, TRT Vitor. Beat up Glover in the clinch which was his sweet spot. Outwrestled DC a former olympian, tapped out black belts etc.

But he was far more dominant and impressive than Fedor against level of comp lightyears ahead of the old dinosaurs of the one dimensional Pride era. And all he really had was a wrestling background, he was learning striking while starting MMA and got a lot of his moves from youtube. Fedor was a carefully manufactured Russian experiment who had loads of amateur MMA experience in Sambo before turning pro.

Jon was a big LHW with insane physical advantages fighting people that was usually smaller then him. And the fights vs Reyes and Gunnar had Jones loooking worse then Fedor ever did. And jones was doping + poking peoples eyes.

Nothing crazy happened in the Reyes fight, it was closely contested and went to the decision.

He didn't get almost KO'd by a sloppy windmill(Fujita) slammed and almost killed(Randleman) top controlled and almost submitted by an obese kickboxer with zero grappling(Hunt) and put on his back repeatedly by an againg wrestler(Coleman) had trouble standing AND on the ground against a tire mechanic with barely any technique or experience(Rogers).

And yes lets just keep ignoring him getting submitted by Werdum within minutes, outstruck and outgrappled by Bigfoot and outstruck and KO'd in a grappling sequence after being controlled against the fence by a middle aged MW yes? While Jones is still undefeated to this day at an older age than Fedor was when he started losing. Good talk.

 

[Oddmonster]

Until Aspinall or Pavlovich fight Gane, there's no telling how truly impressive that win is.

Gane is impressive as long as grappling is not involved. A one legged Ngannou grapplefucked Gane - It cant be more telling than that.

 

[Dick]

And apply this to all of Jon's close fights and there goes your argument. And lastly atleast Jones had close fights against guys his size. Arona by all accounts was a MW. Fedor's career is littered with bad performances against MW, despite you claiming he's laughably HW GOAT.



So did Jones. Outstruck strikers like Machida, Rua, TRT Vitor. Beat up Glover in the clinch which was his sweet spot. Outwrestled DC a former olympian, tapped out black belts etc.

But he was far more dominant and impressive than Fedor against level of comp lightyears ahead of the old dinosaurs of the one dimensional Pride era. And all he really had was a wrestling background, he was learning striking while starting MMA and got a lot of his moves from youtube. Fedor was a carefully manufactured Russian experiment who had loads of amateur MMA experience in Sambo before turning pro.



Nothing crazy happened in the Reyes fight, it was closely contested and went to the decision.

He didn't get almost KO'd by a sloppy windmill(Fujita) slammed and almost killed(Randleman) top controlled and almost submitted by an obese kickboxer with zero grappling(Hunt) and put on his back repeatedly by an againg wrestler(Coleman) had trouble standing AND on the ground against a tire mechanic with barely any technique or experience(Rogers).

And yes lets just keep ignoring him getting submitted by Werdum within minutes, outstruck and outgrappled by Bigfoot and outstruck and KO'd in a grappling sequence after being controlled against the fence by a middle aged MW yes? While Jones is still undefeated to this day at an older age than Fedor was when he started losing. Good talk.

These people can't handle the truth. Preach brother.

 

[Dick]

Gane is impressive as long as grappling is not involved. A one legged Ngannou grapplefucked Gane - It cant be more telling than that.

And who's to say Gane wouldn't knock Aspinall and Pavlovich TF out? Because he very well could.

 

[Gamer2k4]

Ahh so Jon spent 4 years to become 270+lbs because he is too lazy to cut weight, not because he needed to be at the limit of HW weight like he was at LHW to gain a competitive edge.....Dude you got some great insights.

Where does this 270+ number come from? Jones was 248 in his only HW weigh-in.