Former Miss Connecticut USA was high end hooker throughout marriage to rich surgeon- He is angry

Who cares if she leaves him? My problem is with the government and laws that will now hand her at least half of everything that poor bastard has ever earned in his entire life.

You don't get into the position of a high profile surgeon making millions a year without spending basically your whole life working your ass off too.

i think he made out well since it was settled confidentially outside of court. it could have been a bitter divorce and could have been publicized in court, which could have then identified who her clients were. he might get the last laugh with the IRS looking into her undisclosed slut fund
 
you should ppl supporting sex workers as a feminist. She's a professional companionship provider.

Sex is a sacred bond between man and wife. In addition to which, no little girl grows up dreaming of being an escort.
 
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Eh it seems like every time you hear a story like this, instead of blaming the trashbag hoe everyone blames the guy for choosing the trashbag hoe.

Guys don't get with girls like this knowing they are like this. The girls I date are always grimy hoes too, and it gets old being told it's my fault I'm not better at sussing out pathological liars.


there is a lot of truth the the "they picked the wrong women" thing though. i have never picked a single woman that fucked me over or anyone else for that matter except one time when i went with lust over my brains.

if you are a truly good person you are very likely to pick a truly good person. if you are shallow and worldly then the odds change a lot.
 
there is a lot of truth the the "they picked the wrong women" thing though. i have never picked a single woman that fucked me over or anyone else for that matter except one time when i went with lust over my brains.

if you are a truly good person you are very likely to pick a truly good person.
if you are shallow and worldly then the odds change a lot.
See this is the part that pisses people off. It's such a baseless assumption, seemingly made with no other data than it worked for you. That's good that it worked out for you, I'm happy for you.

Maybe you don't have the social issues that some of us have, and that's a good thing. But it doesn't do much for me.
 
I mean you guys literally say this happens to us because we suck, then wonder why we don't react well to that lol
 
See this is the part that pisses people off. It's such a baseless assumption, seemingly made with no other data than it worked for you. That's good that it worked out for you, I'm happy for you.

Maybe you don't have the social issues that some of us have, and that's a good thing. But it doesn't do much for me.


you have a point there but i dont think its just missing out on social cues. i think its a basic lack of depth and wisdom in general honestly. but i guess i see your point-- you dont know what you dont know.

at the same time if you were on a spiritual quest in life and had looked deeper than popular culture and the fake culture that corporations generate you would see right through most of these women easily and quickly.

maybe you had no choice the first couple times you got screwed over but now that you know you pick the wrong women isnt it on you to figure out why and remedy that?

the reason i say this is because ive helped a ton of men learn to choose better women and it has worked out for them but not without a fair bit of deep change on the part of the shallow men who are attracted to idiots and pass up good women to get to them. it has also taken some time.
 
you have a point there but i dont think its just missing out on social cues. i think its a basic lack of depth and wisdom in general honestly. but i guess i see your point-- you dont know what you dont know.

at the same time if you were on a spiritual quest in life and had looked deeper than popular culture and the fake culture that corporations generate you would see right through most of these women easily and quickly.

maybe you had no choice the first couple times you got screwed over but now that you know you pick the wrong women isnt it on you to figure out why and remedy that?

the reason i say this is because ive helped a ton of men learn to choose better women and it has worked out for them but not without a fair bit of deep change on the part of the shallow men who are attracted to idiots and pass up good women to get to them. it has also taken some time.
Yeah I get where you're coming from, but I'm not the materialistic guy. I'm not picking whichever girl is hot or DTF and ignoring everything else. I don't care about looks or money. So far, for me at least, valuing the "real" things hasn't helped me find women that also value those things.

They ALL say they do. Sometimes I can tell they're lyingz sometimes I can't but it always ends the same.

Now, granted, I have social and mental problems that make me not quite like the average guy. Maybe that's a large part of why the chemistry works the way it does, but knowing all of that and trying to work on myself doesn't seem to make things any better.
 
Yeah I get where you're coming from, but I'm not the materialistic guy. I'm not picking whichever girl is hot or DTF and ignoring everything else. I don't care about looks or money. So far, for me at least, valuing the "real" things hasn't helped me find women that also value those things.

They ALL say they do. Sometimes I can tell they're lyingz sometimes I can't but it always ends the same.

Now, granted, I have social and mental problems that make me not quite like the average guy. Maybe that's a large part of why the chemistry works the way it does, but knowing all of that and trying to work on myself doesn't seem to make things any better.

materialism and money and looks are a tiny fraction of the factors that cause men to choose the wrong women friend.

let me put it this way, in the world of spirituality and/or recovery from addiction or recovering from being with or raised by an addict it is COMMON knowledge that some people have the wrong "picker". and it is very common to outgrow that personal problem by doing intense spiritual work and introspection.


i bet in two years with help (if you were willing to do the work) you could be past this and pick the right types.

but the main point is that it is NOT about the women-- its about you and you have got to own that and do something about it and you need help to do that.
 
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Eh it seems like every time you hear a story like this, instead of blaming the trashbag hoe everyone blames the guy for choosing the trashbag hoe.

Guys don't get with girls like this knowing they are like this. The girls I date are always grimy hoes too, and it gets old being told it's my fault I'm not better at sussing out pathological liars.

I understand your point - trust me, I have no love for the trashbag hoe in the story (or in general). With that being said, I can't wra
This may be true and maybe it's a branding issue but IMHO the term "feminism" is outdated and politically charged. I support equal opportunity without regard for race or gender, but wouldn't call myself a "civil rights advocate," merely someone who's not a moron. Both terms in quotes imply systemic oppression and victimhood and while those may still be a problem in some parts, I don't believe that to be true for most of the western world today.

Mind you I'm talking equal opportunity NOT equal outcome regardless of merit. All too often, that distinction gets swept under the rug.

I agree completely - your last point is what I think alot of people struggle with, and it's also why I find Prof. Peterson's perspective so insightful. Creating a level playing field is not the same as having everybody win the race.
 
Yeah I get where you're coming from, but I'm not the materialistic guy. I'm not picking whichever girl is hot or DTF and ignoring everything else. I don't care about looks or money. So far, for me at least, valuing the "real" things hasn't helped me find women that also value those things.

They ALL say they do. Sometimes I can tell they're lyingz sometimes I can't but it always ends the same.

Now, granted, I have social and mental problems that make me not quite like the average guy. Maybe that's a large part of why the chemistry works the way it does, but knowing all of that and trying to work on myself doesn't seem to make things any better.

I just hope you remember that you are the prize, and that it is up to the girls you meet to try and earn you affection, and not the other way around. By all accounts talking to you over the years, you are great guy with a tremendous amount to offer (you just have terrible luck with having trash people in your life that drag you down).
 
Social norms, the appearance of a "perfect life", pressure from his family, having some quality p**** on call and not having to search for it, etc.

The 'I don't understand the purpose of marriage tool kit!'
 
i think he made out well since it was settled confidentially outside of court. it could have been a bitter divorce and could have been publicized in court, which could have then identified who her clients were. he might get the last laugh with the IRS looking into her undisclosed slut fund

If he was smart, it would be how he got her to settle.

I would have started by saying that I have no intention of settling, want this to be dragged out and very public so her friends, family and anyone reading the newspapers get to see exactly what a piece of shit she is.

Then use this as leverage to make sure she got stuff all... or actually drag her name through the mud in the whole process as a consolation prize if she won't settle cheaply.
 
That is like using an article of the Klu Klux Klan to define the average American.

So you're saying journalists, authors and feminist "academics" aren't indicative of feminism? The people who write most of the man hating feminist garbage out there?

I'm not talking about random social media posts. I am talking about feminist sections in massive news papers and published books. These are some of the most well known feminists out there. Are you saying that they aren't actually feminists then? ...this will definitely come as a shock to them.
 
Sex is a sacred bond between man and wife. In addition to which, no little girl grows up dreaming of being an escort.

Considering sex can be had without emotion it kinda kills bond part.

And how much loose sex is had and societys view on sex nowadays it kinda kills sacred (not saying loose sex is bad though)

Buut just my 2 cents
 
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