He might be safe in PC but most people don’t want that existence. That shit is awful.You don’t think he’ll be safe even in PC?
He might be safe in PC but most people don’t want that existence. That shit is awful.You don’t think he’ll be safe even in PC?
I don't like seeing communities and businesses armed by looting, but a lot of the looters have nothing to do with the protests. It's just people using a legit cause for selfish reasons and I agree with you that it's bullshit and detracts from the cause.
But I can understand protests. We're tired of the killing of our brothers and sisters and fellow citizens getting murdered. It's hit a breaking point. This was bad timing. Everyone is already stressed and cooped up from the virus. Now we have to watch one of the more egregious police murders ever?
Everyone's offended by the looting. How come when people riot after a sports game it's acceptable but when it's due to the murder of an unarmed citizen then everyone rioting is labeled as a thug?
You're right. The govt. is supposed to protect people. And they aren't protecting black citizens that are getting murdered out here in 2020 in broad daylight.
Hi,
Police kill more unarmed white men than black men in America. I've done some research on this, and the whole race based thing seems to be deeply sensationalized by the media, activist groups and certain celebrities and companies.
An example of this is Daniel Shavers killing for trying to pull up his shorts. The police officer was acquitted and given disability pay for the trauma caused by him killing Shaver. There were no riots over this, there were no media hype jobs, there were no companies tweeting support, there were no activists tweeting white lives matter. I can imagine, if Shaver was black the reaction would be vastly different.
People shot to death by police broken down by race:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/
Based on the above statistics, even though police kill more Whites than Blacks, it is true that Blacks are overrepresented based on their population size. However then there are other factors to consider like Blacks overrepresentation on commission of homicides and other crime statistics which would place them more likely to interact with police on a per capita basis.
At the end of the day, the statistics are nuanced and there is little evidence to prove there is a systemic race based targeted killing of black men by police. This is completely contradictory to what the media purports, the activists and celebrities tell us and men like you on sherdog claim.
Police should 100% have to achieve blue belts in BJJ OR some equivalent in other grappling arts / BJJ combined. I'm not some BJJ lord promoting it here, I don't care, I genuinely think they should and I've seen cops saying the same thing.
Tons of cops go hands on and they are just complete morons. They should all have at least 3-6 months training in wrestling/BJJ/MMA/Sambo/Judo - whatever it is.
I'll give a brief opinion too, these "protests" are not justified. That is obvious. One guy said "glad to see who the pieces of shit are!" in this thread. Yeah buddy, I guess beating the fuck out of a store owner in Dallas last night to the point of coma/death really honored Lloyd's memory too right? Other people have been assaulted, arson, robbery-looting, millions destroyed, a police station burned.
Not sure why the government - which is put in PLACE to protect it's people inherently - is not acting. But that's just me. I guess a bunch of children, criminal scumbags, and possible antifa-eddie bravos, really need to loot that nike store and ruin the College Football HOF for "justice". Shit is beyond ridiculous, our society sucks dick now because it's being dictated by a minority of sub 60-70 IQ retards on twitter. Polticians (scumbags) are scared to act out of fear of backlash from idiots on twitter/mainstream media prior to an election.
Thank you! They’re over militarized, under trained, poorly incentivized, and way too many of them are on power trips. It’s a tough spot for me too because in the south I have a lot of training partners that are cops too. Some are good friends. I know they have a dangerous job. And even though it may sound harsh I think they should be held to a higher standard. They accepted the responsibility by signing up. If me and you did tI George Floyd what those cops did they’d put us under the fucking prison. And assholes in this thread think just because you’re getting arrested (For a crime you may not have even been knowingly committing; I’ve accidentally received counterfeit money and spent it) that you deserve to die.You're missing the point.
No matter the color of the victims, law enforcement officers have been killing unarmed people and getting away with for years.
The rage of generations is boiling over. Floyd's murder was a tipping point.
They've been gunning people down, murdering adults and children in no knock raids that might not even be at the correct address, and beating the homeless to death.
We need nation wide retraining in use of force, rules of engagement, and more.
Institutionalized racism is a serious problem, yes. But the riots are about police violence as a whole. That violence is often racially motivated, but just because officers murdered Breanna Taylor in the dark without seeing her skin does not mean that is not a massive problem.
To quote Brad Nowell, "it wasn't about Rodney King, it's this fucked up situation and these fucked up police."
Don't detract from the reason these riots are going down.
For years and years US police forces have been more concerned about protecting property and wealth than protecting human life.
Looters definitely should be arrested. But a lot of them are just taking advantage of the situation and/or are cooped up from this pandemic and are just acting out. A lot of them aren't even interested in the cause. They absolutely take away from it. And in some cases the cops are the ones that start the violence in order to move in and shut down the protests. Agent provocateurs are a real thing. Most of the protestors for George Floyd want to keep things peaceful. I have the upmost empathy for small business owners and other community members that are getting injured or having their property damaged. But people are locked inside during a pandemic and are already stressed the fuck out about money, what's going to happen, and then it's heating up for summer time when people already have quarantine fatigue? And on top of that they have to watch yet another unarmed person get murdered in broad daylight by civil servants that we are paying with our tax dollars? This was the worst time for a crime like this to happen.The government needs to start tasering people, and arresting the looters...
Protestors are one thing..but once u start breeaking and stealing ur a criminal and should go to jail.... How does breaking and stealing from your community members help with stopping police violence or there lack of training
They’re killing too many unarmed citizens. That’s really my point. White and black.
You're right. The govt. is supposed to protect people. And they aren't protecting black citizens that are getting murdered out here in 2020 in broad daylight.
Also. Of course they kill more white people. There’s way more white people in the United States than black people. I’d imagine they do get shot more based on the fact they outnumber everyone else. There are about 6x as many white people in the U.S. as there are black people. (https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/IPE120218) So with that in mind it's disturbing that the numbers in the link you provided are as close as they are. They aren’t anything remotely close to a 6:1 ratio. And for 2020 already the numbers are almost 1:1.
You're missing the point.
No matter the color of the victims, law enforcement officers have been killing unarmed people and getting away with for years.
Looters definitely should be arrested. But a lot of them are just taking advantage of the situation and/or are cooped up from this pandemic and are just acting out. A lot of them aren't even interested in the cause. They absolutely take away from it. And in some cases the cops are the ones that start the violence in order to move in and shut down the protests. Agent provocateurs are a real thing. Most of the protestors for George Floyd want to keep things peaceful. I have the upmost empathy for small business owners and other community members that are getting injured or having their property damaged. But people are locked inside during a pandemic and are already stressed the fuck out about money, what's going to happen, and then it's heating up for summer time when people already have quarantine fatigue? And on top of that they have to watch yet another unarmed person get murdered in broad daylight by civil servants that we are paying with our tax dollars? This was the worst time for a crime like this to happen.
I will just add that society seems to accept it when people loot and riot after sports events. People in major cities win the national title and flip cars over and set them on fire. They get labeled as people that got carried away celebrating. But when other people end up going too far when they were protesting for the right reasons, then there's a lot of people that want to label them as thugs. It's a double standard. MLK Jr was against rioting but he also wisely said it was the language of the unheard. When people don't feel like their voices or peaceful protests are being heard then they can sometimes lash out and become violent. It's human nature.
I'm not going to get into a drawn out and protracted argument online but I'll address your specific questions and do my best to walk away.But that's was not really your point at all. You said:
In your previous post you made a specific qualification that government is not protecting "black citizens". Now you are stating that police officers kill Black and White citizens. So please tell, is the government not protecting black citizens or are they not protecting citizens in general?
Simply put, you were trying to push a narrative that there is some sort of systemic deliberate race based targeting of black men by police. You're not the only one to peddle this narrative, since it's the prevailing narrative on all social media, activist groups, mainstream media, celebrities etc. Yet the basic facts and data simply do not support this claim. It is an insidious lie.
I've already addressed this in my previous post. Yes I accept that black people are overrepresented based on their population size. However, Blacks also have an overrepresentation on commission of crime statistics and black neighborhoods also have a disproportionate share of crimes reported which puts them far more likely to interact with or encounter police at all. Hence, the overrepresentation of black men killed can also be looked through the prism of an overrepresentation of black men committing crimes.
The crux of my argument is not to say that there is no police brutality or racism does not exist in America, but simply to say that the prevailing narrative that unarmed Black men are being systematically targeted and killed by racist police officers is nothing short of an insidious lie and there is little empirical data to support this mainstream media narrative.
Very well said."Certain conditions continue to exist in our society, which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots. But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation’s summers of riots are caused by our nation’s winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention"
Dr MLK Jr.
I'm not condoning any violence other than that between consenting training partners in a gym.
But what some people are failing to grasp is this.
For years many LEO's and departments in the US have acted in the interest of protecting property and wealth against the interest of protecting human life.
In many of the cases in US history, those who murdered the unarmed, or the innocent, or the fully detained, faced little to no repercussions. There was no justice for the slain.
Those who are hungry for justice and never receive it will often seek vengeance if justice cannot or will not be done.
And while that can manifest in attacks that are made against LEO's, it is common that rioters take out their thirst for vengeance on property and wealth that has been considered more worthwhile than their blood and their lives.
The attorney representing George Floyd’s family says the findings of an independent autopsy have determined that Floyd died of asphyxiation from sustained pressure.
According to a statement, attorney Ben Crump revealed the results of the autopsy performed by medical examiners Dr. Michael Baden and Dr. Allecia Wilson, and called for charges against fired MPD officer Derek Chauvin to be amended to first-degree murder.
Crump said that the independent autopsy determined that “sustained pressure on the right side of Floyd’s carotid artery impeded blood flow to the brain, and weight on his back impeded his ability to breathe.”
He added that the two medical examiners determined that having handcuffs on and his position impaired the ability for his diaphragm to function. They also said it appears he died at the scene.
“What we found is consistent with what people saw. There is no other health issue that could cause of contribute to the death. Police have this false impression that if you can talk, you can breathe. That’s not true,” Baden said.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/worl...rom-sustained-pressure/ar-BB14Tmly?li=AAggNb9Probably the smack he was intoxicated with.
lol this
dud didnt even have a shirt on god knows what he was doing before cops busted him
do explain how im an antagonist because im not a sjw lolThis is a genuine question: does being antagonistic on the internet boost your self esteem and/or have a lasting positive effect on your life?
do explain how im an antagonist because im not a sjw lol
cop was wrong and is being punished but dude was a legit criminal didnt even have a shirt on if he wasnt breaking the law being a bad person he wouldnt been in his situation to begin with thats 100% fact
He’s been a troll forever on this forum. He just wants to get a rise out of you. Don’t reply.I’d be happy to respond to this, but I don’t know how to frame my response because I don’t know if you sincerely feel this way or not. Is this your genuine opinion of the situation or are you trying to get a rise out of me?
He’s been a troll forever on this forum. He just wants to get a rise out of you. Don’t reply.