GSP has outdated take down technque and will have no answer for Khabib *serious discussion only

MPD-Psycho said:
Ha ha correct answer here, but with that name it might really be an “outdated” technique?
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Everything old is new again. Remember when they said Karate is dead? And then Silva and Machida started front kicking everyone in the face? Ape technique will be back to gorilla smash everyone.

Serious answer. This is GSP's wrestling coach, he's a former Soviet and European champion.
https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/n...rmer-soviet-and-european-news-photo/502529773
He's been learning wrestling from a Russian for most of his MMA career, Khabib is nothing new for them.
 
Hendricks exposed GSP's wrestling skills; He needs to unbalanced his opponent to ge the TD, that's why in the fights with Alves, Fitch, Shields and Koscheck he managed to take them down. With Khabib is different because he is a pure wrestler and he does not rely on explosiveness or getting his opponent off balance so it's going to be real hard for GSP to take him down.
 
Hendricks has had 10x more testing than GSP and never failed a test.

GSP was a pre-USADA monster but Hendricks is called the juicer. Sherdoggers suck at logic
 
goatsilva said:
Are you kidding me? Even if he took Khabib down his ass would get subbed. Have you even seen Khabib off his back? His grappling is a quantum leap above LNP St Pierre
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You're out of your mind! LOL
No way he'd sub GSP... sorry, nope, not happening. GSP blew through Hughes like tissue paper before tapping him.
 
ColombianFist said:
Hendricks exposed GSP's wrestling skills; He needs to unbalanced his opponent to ge the TD, that's why in the fights with Alves, Fitch, Shields and Koscheck he managed to take them down. With Khabib is different because he is a pure wrestler and he does not rely on explosiveness or getting his opponent off balance so it's going to be real hard for GSP to take him down.
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So... what? Kabib stands with GSP... prob not a good idea for long. Kabibs striking is rudimentary at best.
 
suhdude said:
The meta of MMA has evolved. Single leg and double leg take down defense is standard, just like having BJJ defense is a standard. That is why people like Khabib had to evolve their take downs by using cage walls and trips.

Khabib was once like GSP. He primarily set up his takedowns using striking, then changed levels for a double/single. That was successful for a period until the Tibau fight in which he got nullified. After that fight you will notice he completely changed his take down strategy. This is in huge part because he joined AKA where he learned to wrestle with Cormier. The rest is history. No one can stop his take downs.

GSP is an athlete not a fighter. He relied on his athleticism to cover up his chin, which at times has been wobbled by the likes of Hendricks, Condit. After getting exposed by an unranked long shot Serra, GSP changed his game to something safe, valuing point fighting over taking any risk.

It took a juiced Hendricks just to be on the same level as GSP. If a juiced fighter can barely keep up with GSP, it really speaks volumes on how much GSP trains. He has the muscle definition, size and endurance that you don't see in many people who can fight for long periods of time.

GSP's success relied in part because of his timing/explosiveness/technique. If we were to make a pie chart of how much each has contributed to his wins it would look like this.

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Given that explosiveness and timing are largely dependent on age, it would be irrefutable to assume that GSP maintained his peak physical form after that many years. This is further supported by GSP slow and sluggish performance against Bisping who was a man already set on retirement while training for GSP.

Khabib will be able to easily stuff GSP's archaic takedowns and demonstrate just how far MMA wrestling has come, by showing techniques that were never thought possible by GSP or any of his past opponents.
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But Johnny was only 70%
 
TS made a chart which makes his post irrefutable.

I give up.
 
bigsmooth187 said:
So... what? Kabib stands with GSP... prob not a good idea for long. Kabibs striking is rudimentary at best.
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It works, but he doesn't rely on one single strike like GSP. I don't see Khabib getting jabbed if he want to take the fight to the ground.
 
AlanGregson said:
Prime khabib has lost a single round in his career and never had an even a bloody nose in the ufc, i think people forget just how good he is, maybe once he ragdolls ferguson people will understand.
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I like Khabib, but let’s be real, it’s too soon to call him a phenom when the bulk of his victories are unknowns.
 
ColombianFist said:
Hendricks exposed GSP's wrestling skills; He needs to unbalanced his opponent to ge the TD, that's why in the fights with Alves, Fitch, Shields and Koscheck he managed to take them down. With Khabib is different because he is a pure wrestler and he does not rely on explosiveness or getting his opponent off balance so it's going to be real hard for GSP to take him down.
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Fitch , Shields and Koscheck are about as pure wrestling as you can get.
 
TapMachine said:
He's not. Wrestling and submission grappling are two different dimensions and Khabib is very high level at both.


Some people think GSP is going to stuff Khabib, because he stuffed more decorated collegiate wrestlers. Problem with this line of reasoning is that none of those decorated collegiate wrestlers actually wrestle like Khabib. Khabib is not reliant on power doubles, he brings to the table the most diverse arsenal of takedowns MMA has ever seen. He's also much better at using the cage to his advantage than anyone GSP has fought. Truth is, there are a lot of things Khabib can surprise GSP with.
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It really would be interesting to see how either man reacts to being on their back if it gets there.
 
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