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No on your question about results. The thing is a rear naked choke is actually a super safe and humane way to subdue someone. There’s no way this guy knew what he was doing, unless he meant to kill the guy and seriously doubt he meant to. He probably held it way too long because he was in fight or flight mode and didn’t really know what he was doing.While I find it unfortunate that guy died I don't really think anything criminal took place other than the failure of the state that made it even possible for these 2 to meet in the first place. If you think you are in a fight with a violent mentally ill person it seems reasonable to me that you fight him til he stops moving.
To me it's like a self defense shooting. You weren't shooting to kill you were shooting to stop the threat. It's not always fatal but sometimes it is.if it was reasonable to put the guy in a choke hold than whatever result that produced is also fine no?
Now I'll be honest with you about 2 things. One I don't know if my opinion on the situation matches with what the law says. And 2 I think mentally ill homeless people are Sketch af and due to that bias there's no way I'd convict this guy if I was on his jury and it's hard for me to see it any other way.
I would have a huge problem with it if he just pulled a gun out and shot the guy for acting erratically. That is not a safe or humane way to end a confrontation. It’s lethal force where as a choke is not.
The action that the perp is taking has to matter for which tool you used. If the guy actually started trying to shove people in front of trains or something, then sure I would say lethal force is fine.