If USADA clears jon jones....

george14 said:
Not sure if you are joking but he was not cleared the first time lol.

Therefore, Anderoidz.
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Usually they are not clearing the fighters but reducing their suspension because "it was a contaminated supplement".

Barnett is the only big name who got cleared AFAIK.
 
MMAProfessional said:
USADA is good at catching people but their process is dumb. They catch someone and decide that it wasn't their fault because what they took shouldn't have been illegal so they reduce their sentence instead of clearing them to fight again. Makes no sense. They either get punished or it's declared fault of the company selling it ang clear them
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Thats not the process at all.

Educate yourself before calling anyone dumb again.
 
Fight Professor said:
Usually they are not clearing the fighters but reducing their suspension because "it was a contaminated supplement".

Barnett is the only big name who got cleared AFAIK.
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no, his was the same as everyone else but since the process had taken 18 or so months and the arbitrator would have given him 6 or 12, he just called it "time served" or some such thing and his suspension was over.

pardon me, i don't have the exact language down pat. but that's the gist.

he and USADA agreed that he had accidentally taken tainted supplements and should be punished. but USADA wanted to punish him as a multiple offender and he just didn't think USADA should treat him as a multiple time offender since his other offenses were pre-USADA. the arbitrator agreed with him.
 
Why are people saying that Anderson was cleared when he is still suspended?
 
LouisBolanos said:
USADA hasn't tested Jones since last October. 9.5 months of no testing.

USADA = JOKE.

Which is just fine by me because MMA is a C level joke sport to begin with.
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I believe USADA's policy is not to test anyone that is provisionally suspended. Makes no sense to me but it is the policy right @dimspace ?
 
Verace said:
after clearing yoel, anderson, not catching ngannou while he trains and lives literally right below their noses and letting brock lesnar compete...

Will all the PED whiners in here still be deluded they are watching a clean sport?
Seriously, what your reaction will be? Will you still trust USADA?
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The war on PEDs has already been lost just as much as the war on recreational drugs.

Helax, chill and enjoy
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how are they just letting Brock compete? Does he not have to serve out the remainder of his suspension and re-enter the testing pool for a minimum amount of time before he can compete? They are literally making him follow the guidelines as far as I know, unless I'm uninformed about things.
 
Rvd Slmr said:
Why are people saying that Anderson was cleared when he is still suspended?
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lazy vernacular is the cause of most problems here.

USADA "cleared" (for lack of a better term) him of intentionally ingesting PEDs.
 
tithas said:
I believe USADA's policy is not to test anyone that is provisionally suspended. Makes no sense to me but it is the policy right @dimspace ?
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No, they test you just the same: http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/118448047/

It would be really stupid if getting busted for PEDs actually gets you out of the testing pool. Imagine if you committed a crime and during trial you're not subject to police scrutiny. @dimspace has no explanation on this and claims this is just a coincidence. 9.5 months of no random drug testing on one of UFC's highest profile PED cheater is not a coincidence. @dimspace is a confirmed USADA apologist.
 
svmVR2097 said:
how are they just letting Brock compete? Does he not have to serve out the remainder of his suspension and re-enter the testing pool for a minimum amount of time before he can compete? They are literally making him follow the guidelines as far as I know, unless I'm uninformed about things.
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  1. he tested +.
  2. he stayed in the testing pool another 6 months.
  3. he left the testing pool.
  4. he was suspended a year.
  5. now he returned to the testing pool.
  6. he has to stay suspended the rest of the term - another 6 months.
  7. not very coincidentally, he would have had to stay in the testing pool 6 months as a returned fighter anyway. so it could be argued that he gamed the system a tad bit that way.
 
it's not a real sport just a series of matches vaguely based on weight and popularity
 
If the USADA turns a blind eye towards some fighters why not all?

So many huge fights were ruined as a result of failed tests, for example Cormier Jones two, the first one was cancelled at the last minute.

The revenue loss for the UFC was huge on that card alone.

Add in high profile fighters that have been suspended that are draws, it simply makes no sense.

Either its legit and catches whoever fucks up, or they are dirty and no one of any relevance should be caught.

Take off the tin foil hat boys because if they were dirty, there are plenty of instances where the UFC would have benefitted from having no failed tests.
 
SeattleFightFan said:
he had his own team test all his supplements and they all came out clean.

he then tested some extra supplements that weren't on his form. he never really explained why he tested them if he didn't take them (because he surely didn't take them without putting them on his form), but he did, and they came out clean.

then he admitted in front of a State AC in a public committee hearing that all his supplements were clean and he has no idea how he tested +. and that he would never admit guilt. but please believe him when he says, he's innocent. he also admitted his signature was forged by his agent on some testing related paperwork, btw, but that's beside the point (or is it?)

so for USADA to clear him with the tainted supplement route (i assume that's what you mean, though you didn't actually say it that way), they would have to go above and beyond with an explanation as to how and why.

if they "cleared" him in some other way than the tainted supplement route, i'd have to see what it was before making any conclusions. because that's how critical thinking works.
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I think thats how overthinking works haha

Seriously... thats exactly what they want. People like you to give them the benefit of the doubt by overthinking shit

They are clearly shady mate. Sometimes things are exactly what they look like.
 
SeattleFightFan said:
  1. he tested +.
  2. he stayed in the testing pool another 6 months.
  3. he left the testing pool.
  4. he was suspended a year.
  5. now he returned to the testing pool.
  6. he has to stay suspended the rest of the term - another 6 months.
  7. not very coincidentally, he would have had to stay in the testing pool 6 months as a returned fighter anyway. so it could be argued that he gamed the system a tad bit that way.
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if you're retired, then you can't be forced to be in a voluntary drug testing organizations program. Same with a state athletic commission.
 
svmVR2097 said:
if you're retired, then you can't be forced to be in a voluntary drug testing organizations program. Same with a state athletic commission.
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i'm not exactly sure what you're saying here, but let me reiterate (regurgitate?) the facts.

  • he tested + in July 2016
  • he stayed in the testing pool until Feb 2017
  • therefore he only has 6 months of is year suspension to still fulfill

source.
 
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