Is Europe and Africa taking over the UFC?

[Selukrid612]

Nothing more to add to this really. You simply should’ve been clearer.

“any county with a large population is always going to be “mid-tier” on a per capita basis in the Olympics”

As I said, that is blatantly untrue. Own it.

Again, you’ve added an “only” to my original statement. Language is important when it’s all we have to communicate, so do try to be accurate. The major sports in the US are sports very few other countries take seriously. For the vast majority of the world, they don’t have that luxury. You dominate these sports in a manner that you don’t dominate any others (as far as I can see at least), hence you specialise in these sports. It really isn’t rocket science.

I did own that I should have been clearer on that part, even though it was blatantly obvious what was being said. This is Sherdog, I’m not exactly putting TLC into every post, it’s just not that important. But you have a habit of completely ignoring the point and focusing on irrelevant details. You haven’t even attempted to rebut my point about the flaws in your per capita arguments, where by the way, the US won 15% of the total gold medals with only 4% of the world’s population. Despite as you say, specializing in our own unique sports. Yes, other countries did even better in a per capita sense, but it’s much harder to overachieve in a per capita sense when you have well over 300 million people. Some countries would automatically perform better in a per capita sense than the US if they simply won one single gold medal.

If we’re being fair, you were very dismissive and cheeky in the post I responded to. Quipping about a-level athletes and then talking about how the US isn’t necessarily a poor sporting nation, but definitely specialize in our own sports, which is an objectively silly way to try to summarize the sporting prowess of a country that wins the Olympics going away almost every time.

 

[arcadeperfect]

Ngannou certainly paced himself better and didn't hand Stipe the opportunity and Stipes missed takedown opened himself to damage that set the tone for rest of the fight. But Stipe only tried one Takedown so I don't know if that's enough to judge though no doubt he was working on TDD. But Stipe isn't Jones and while I can see Ngannou stopping some takedowns Jones is so good at avoiding damage in those situations.

He seemed tired to me he really went for it to get the finish.

You're right Blaydes might not be the best HW but he's a bad matchup for Jones. Would be interested.

Of course he went for the finish he already dealt serious damage to Stipe and scored a knockdown in the 2nd round.

 

[NoSmilez]

China and India are poor sporting nations, that doesn’t change the fact that population size negatively weighs on your ability to excel in a per capita basis in the Olympics. What are you even talking about?

You’re a hater because your argument in this thread literally started with the US supposedly only winning in sports that no one cares about and has now devolved into per capita arguments (that are flawed) to explain away why in fact the US dominates. What an embarrassing and yet clearly shameless flip-flop.

China is a poor sporting nation? After the cold war, I think the only country that beats them in medals is the USA. Maybe you can say they are terrible at winter/nordic sports

 

[Mug]

So many elite prospects and champions have risen in those areas.

I think this thing comes in waves of evolution
America where first to have access really then the Brazilians came in with a new martial art which counteracted the traditional American wrestling and was really effective, then was era of Brazilians, while everyone got their BJJ up to standard more countries get interested and it becomes more lucrative
Western and eastern europe are big into football and boxing especially the UK boxing wise but as MMA becomes more popular more british fighters
Wrestling and grappling big in eatsern europe also boxing now transitioning to MMA
Africans who some are genetic freaks are getting eyes on MMA and more are getting involved in the sport and what we are seeing now is a complete diverse range of every ethnicity, body type, country, background etc getting involved in MMA as age isnt as much of a factor also so its waves

 

[Selukrid612]

China is a poor sporting nation? After the cold war, I think the only country that beats them in medals is the USA. Maybe you can say they are terrible at winter/nordic sports

They do well overall in the medal count, but they go to extremes that normal countries do not in order to compete. And when you consider their population and the lengths they go to, it’s really quite unimpressive. They’re also dominating shit like diving, ping pong and badminton.

 

[NoSmilez]

They do well overall in the medal count, but they go to extremes that normal countries do not in order to compete. And when you consider their population and the lengths they go to, it’s really quite unimpressive. They’re also dominating shit like diving, ping pong and badminton.

I think you bought into some stereotype and ignore everything else they do. They slay USA in weightlifting. They also have more medals in uniformed combat sports than USA. USA is really good at running and swimming. We are also ok at wrestling, diving and boxing but we competed in every Olympics since the beginning.

 

[Selukrid612]

View attachment 851917 I think you bought into some stereotype and ignore everything else they do

I mean, to be fair, I named 3 of the top 6 on that list, including #1. They also dominate those sports much more thoroughly than they do the other stuff like gymnastics. It’s basically a shock when a Chinese diver doesn’t win.