Islamic State Thread v7 : Jihad is the stupidest fad

[Rod1]

Neither is probably correct. Though you should note that the CIA est. is based on a much smaller territory from several months ago. ISIS has accmulated huge amounts of territory since then. That probably supports Hussein's claim that their numbers have grown dramatically with the seizure of territory. How are they guarding it, fighting and expanding at the same time? Have you checked out the size of land they are currently occupying? It's hard to believe that 20,000-30,000 can do this.

It took 200 spanish to take control of an empire of millions. There is a reason why ISIS went uncontested on Sunni areas but stopped on its tracks in Shia areas.

A lot of people supported ISIS, thats why they moved so fast in the areas where they could get support, but that has stopped, also the 20,000-30,000 earlier estimate is not taking into account the beating they are getting.

Plus even if they have grown 3 times, you may assume they may have 60,000 to 90,000 isnt? the 200,000 number just reeks of a number made out of thin air.

 

[Banchan]

:icon_lol:

please enlighten us

Well I think he means in reference to how quickly some people consider an enemy setback as a sign that they are "losing".

ISIS hasn't taken Kobani but neither have we. There should be some objectivity in this discussion.

 

[Banchan]

Plus even if they have grown 3 times, you may assume they may have 60,000 to 90,000 isnt? the 200,000 number just reeks of a number made out of thin air.

You're misinterpreting what he said. He didn't imply it was all from growth, he's saying the CIA underestimated the number from the beginning. We have seen this before, when they originally numbered ISIS at 10,000.

 

[Selukrid612]

Do you know what the Caliphates' s strongest weapon is? It's time. Something that they have a lot of and we don't. Airstrikes and coalition forces are very expensive and they know that. Even if we are successful at presently minimizing their impact, how long before they rise again in the thirdcoming?

 

[Greg55]

You know carpet kissers. They pray and rape 5 times a day.

 

[Turboozo]

just our daily dose of ridicolously inhuman shit by the group that is succeeding in the seemingly impossible task of making pacifist, culturally relativist and self-deprecating western populations in favor of some good 'ole death from above:

Islamic State Killed Family That Wouldn’t Allow Daughter to Marry Fighter

https://news.vice.com/article/islam...ughter-to-marry-fighter?utm_source=vicenewsfb

" Jamal once forced a mother and father to watch as another militant killed their children one-by-one.

"Starting with a 13-year-old boy, they lined up the sons according to their height and beheaded them in that order," the bodyguard told the International Business Times. "Afterwards, they hung the boys' heads on the door of the school the family had been hiding in."

 

[Orgasmo]

just our daily dose of ridicolously inhuman shit by the group that is succeeding in the seemingly impossible task of making pacifist, culturally relativist and self-deprecating western populations in favor of some good 'ole death from above:

Islamic State Killed Family That Wouldn’t Allow Daughter to Marry Fighter

https://news.vice.com/article/islam...ughter-to-marry-fighter?utm_source=vicenewsfb

" Jamal once forced a mother and father to watch as another militant killed their children one-by-one.

"Starting with a 13-year-old boy, they lined up the sons according to their height and beheaded them in that order," the bodyguard told the International Business Times. "Afterwards, they hung the boys' heads on the door of the school the family had been hiding in."

This is what a Salafist society looks like in general. Ff Saudi Arabia is allowed to keep exporting fundamentalist Islamic ideology, you will see more of this. You can't cure a disease without targeting the cause. Qatar and Turkey need to be slapped for their shady treachery too.

 

[Zankou]

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please enlighten us

Doubtless he's referring to how we sheeple first worlders aren't aware that ISIS is a CIA manufactured Jewentity designed to maliciously attack and malign Islam, while most of the 'totally not ignorant third world' folk are aware of this obvious fact.

Also, Muslims discovered America before Columbus.

 

[Vitamin C]

Isn't the vast majority of "ISIS controlled territory" just wide expanses of barren desert?
Extrapolating larger force numbers based on discrete square mileage is not likely to be accurate when forces are concentrated in specific regions, no?

 

[ncordless]

Do you know what the Caliphates' s strongest weapon is? It's time. Something that they have a lot of and we don't. Airstrikes and coalition forces are very expensive and they know that. Even if we are successful at presently minimizing their impact, how long before they rise again in the thirdcoming?

“You [in the west] will never understand that we can afford damage that your politicians would never accept. To us time is nothing. This is a prophecy being fulfilled.”
- some ISIS crony on the philisophical discrepancy between Western warfare and Jihadi prophecy

Meh. Time is not on ISIS's side. The longer they are forced to govern the areas they control, the weaker they will become as local support lessens and their financial situation becomes more desperate.

And while it is costly to keep up the airstrikes and coalition forces, it is literally nothing to the average american. We could escalate the conflict tenfold and not notice it here.

What that ISIS crony fails to understand is that, even though they can afford damage that we would never accept, they can never damage us like that. And we can afford to damage them that way all day long and not even notice it in our daily lives. So yeah, they can withstand more suffering than the US could in that situation. But they don't have anything close to the wherewithal to make the US suffer like that. The question isn't how much suffering can America withstand before giving up. We are not suffering. The question is how much suffering can America inflict before giving up? And the answer is a whole lot. Because with all the war America has been waging, it barely even makes the average citizen's TV set, let alone affect their pocketbook.

 

[Victor Maitland]

A heavy campaign of carpet bombing in Kobane , Raqqa and Mosul would put them on the brink . But Obama is holding back.

 

[Banchan]

Meh. Time is not on ISIS's side. The longer they are forced to govern the areas they control, the weaker they will become as local support lessens and their financial situation becomes more desperate.

And while it is costly to keep up the airstrikes and coalition forces, it is literally nothing to the average american. We could escalate the conflict tenfold and not notice it here.

What that ISIS crony fails to understand is that, even though they can afford damage that we would never accept, they can never damage us like that. And we can afford to damage them that way all day long and not even notice it in our daily lives. So yeah, they can withstand more suffering than the US could in that situation. But they don't have anything close to the wherewithal to make the US suffer like that. The question isn't how much suffering can America withstand before giving up. We are not suffering. The question is how much suffering can America inflict before giving up? And the answer is a whole lot. Because with all the war America has been waging, it barely even makes the average citizen's TV set, let alone affect their pocketbook.

Are you aware of how ISIS got so big to begin with? It's because the US was in a hurry to leave.

 

[liquidfire]

Islamic State Navy engages in 2nd time historic battle this time against Egyptian navy killing 8 egyptian soldiers.


Islamic State holds military parade in Libya and mujahidins are greeted by thousands of overjoyed civilians.

 

[LionExMachina]

Sup habibi? Why don't you ever post links? Are links harem in your religion of the Moon Demon?

 

[ncordless]

ISIS navy . . . lol.

Toyota is to APC as row boat is to battleship?

 

[Vitamin C]

Any time I see a picture of those long Toyota convoys all I can think of is "Where are the A10s when you need them?"

 

[Banchan]

We have plenty of time. The bombing campaign isn't THAT expensive, especially in relation to some of the other wars we've fought recently. It's very sustainable. And frankly I just can't see any president pulling the plug and accepting ISIS' existence. They're too barbaric, have committed too many high-profile atrocities, etc. As long as ISIS exists, there will be US bombs falling on it's territory.

You still have thousands of soldiers deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq and it looks like turbulant times ahead with Assad. It's estimated that the US has spent about a billion dollars in 100 days fighting ISIS. That sounds expensive to me.

 

[SolidIce]

A heavy campaign of carpet bombing in Kobane , Raqqa and Mosul would put them on the brink . But Obama is holding back.

There is a lot of innocent people in Raqqa/Mosul that despite IS but that can't do a damn thing about it. I know it's easy to have no sympathy for them, but carpet bombing populated cities to kill a few bad apples is a shitty solution.

As for Kobane - bomb every building not in Kurdish control, and every single truck car or vehicle that approaches the city from IS controlled zones (literally every other approach into city)

 

[SolidIce]

Damn we need some drones in Libya. No toyota pickup convoy flying IS flags should be able to drive around freely without hellfire missiles raining on their asses

 

[liquidfire]

To answer questions, yes the mujahidins in Africa that pledged allegiance to the Islamic State now receives full financial and military backing.


News from Nigeria after heavy fighting in Chibok Islamic State soldiers withdraw from town. Almost 100 with pending reports up to 300 christians killed during Islamic State control of city.




News in Syria hundreds of Aleppo citizens celebrates Islamic State victories in Aleppo pushing forward the conquest against Alawite heretics.





Iranian drone shot down yesterday in Iraq captured and converted for use by the Islamic State air force.