Ricco was robbed against Nogueira!

[KickWith3rdLeg]

Sorry, this thread was due again!

 

[MMAfanJabroniJew]

Sorry, this thread was due again!

Definitely was.

 

[reveler]

nog was a judge? pride really was corrupt.

 

[Gambit MMA]

Because chuck had already ko’d Reem and pride wasn’t gonna let ufc come in and take 2/3. Rampage decisioned bustamante who was coming over from ufc as the mw champ as well.

 

[smithnwssn]

If Nog really did rob him then Ricco should have called the cops.

 

[Erocthadon]

Thank Marty McFly

 

[Typrune Goatley]

PRIDE judge Matt Hume explains why Nogueira won:


1. Effort to finish by KO or submission:
Nogueira wins by a large margin due to his multiple submission attempts and active attack. Based on this, there is no reason to consider any further criteria as they are in descending order, however, for educational purposes we will continue.
2. Damage:
No damage from striking by either party. Possible damage from deep Kimura in round 3 by Nogueira, however, no award given to either.
3. Standing combinations and ground control:
Neither fighter showed superiority in standing skill. Nogueira dominated ground control as he constantly went for submission and gave away neutral position for inferior position, yet he was able to move back to neutral position with relative ease each time. Nogueira also had a forced reversal. Rodriguez had a reversal while Nogueira was passing guard. Forced reversals are more difficult to achieve and more valuable for ground control. Rodriguez was warned many times throughout the match to improve position but chose to stay in neutral guard without damaging strikes or attempts to pass to dominant position.
4. Takedown and defense:
Nogueira scored one clean takedown and defended 2 times. Ricco scored 3 Takedowns. Ricco wins this criteria.
5. Aggressiveness:
Nogueira wins by a large margin due to his many attempts at submission and his forward progression while striking. The referee warned Ricco many times in this area, but did not award a yellow card penalty.
6. Weight difference:
N/A. Ricco had a sizeable weight advantage but was not more than 15 kilos.

Penalties: No penalties were given although Ricco had many warnings to improve position.

Decision: Nogueira


Here is the whole article on Sherdog:

https://www.google.com/amp/m.sherdo...t-Hume-Defends-Nog-vs-Ricco-Decision-1157/amp

 

[Gambit MMA]

PRIDE judge Matt Hume explains why Nogueira won:

https://www.google.com/amp/m.sherdo...t-Hume-Defends-Nog-vs-Ricco-Decision-1157/amp


"1. Effort to finish by KO or submission:
Nogueira wins by a large margin due to his multiple submission attempts and active attack. Based on this, there is no reason to consider any further criteria as they are in descending order, however, for educational purposes we will continue.
2. Damage:
No damage from striking by either party. Possible damage from deep Kimura in round 3 by Nogueira, however, no award given to either.
3. Standing combinations and ground control:
Neither fighter showed superiority in standing skill. Nogueira dominated ground control as he constantly went for submission and gave away neutral position for inferior position, yet he was able to move back to neutral position with relative ease each time. Nogueira also had a forced reversal. Rodriguez had a reversal while Nogueira was passing guard. Forced reversals are more difficult to achieve and more valuable for ground control. Rodriguez was warned many times throughout the match to improve position but chose to stay in neutral guard without damaging strikes or attempts to pass to dominant position.
4. Takedown and defense:
Nogueira scored one clean takedown and defended 2 times. Ricco scored 3 Takedowns. Ricco wins this criteria.
5. Aggressiveness:
Nogueira wins by a large margin due to his many attempts at submission and his forward progression while striking. The referee warned Ricco many times in this area, but did not award a yellow card penalty.
6. Weight difference:
N/A. Ricco had a sizeable weight advantage but was not more than 15 kilos.

Penalties: No penalties were given although Ricco had many warnings to improve position.

Decision: Nogueira"

Nope. Hogwash.

 

[LongDongSilver]

so what... Chuck vs. Vernon was a complete scam !!

 

[Kingz]

I used to think that as well due to conditioning and Ricco probably wins that soundly in UFC under unified rules where judges think being on top automatically equals winning. Likely have no concept of guard play. Nog had no issue with the position and he did more work than Ricco.

Just one of the many reasons PRIDE was better.

 

[joeyjoejoe]

Oh Ricco lol I’m glad he got a win in his last fight.

 

[Spacelord13]

nog was a judge? pride really was corrupt.

Yeah.

This really fucking bothers me. Take it out on a guy that had nothing to do with it. Sadly that is the state of the average mma fan the last few years. Not bright at all.

Even worse coming from a 13 year old account. Not bright, and really holds onto a grudge.

 

[Taric]

pride really was corrupt.

Matt Hume, one of the judges that judged in favour of Nog, is both American and a catch-wrestler. His bias would've went towards Ricco.

 

[Typrune Goatley]

Nope. Hogwash.

 

[Pierced7681]

PRIDE judge Matt Hume explains why Nogueira won:


1. Effort to finish by KO or submission:
Nogueira wins by a large margin due to his multiple submission attempts and active attack. Based on this, there is no reason to consider any further criteria as they are in descending order, however, for educational purposes we will continue.
2. Damage:
No damage from striking by either party. Possible damage from deep Kimura in round 3 by Nogueira, however, no award given to either.
3. Standing combinations and ground control:
Neither fighter showed superiority in standing skill. Nogueira dominated ground control as he constantly went for submission and gave away neutral position for inferior position, yet he was able to move back to neutral position with relative ease each time. Nogueira also had a forced reversal. Rodriguez had a reversal while Nogueira was passing guard. Forced reversals are more difficult to achieve and more valuable for ground control. Rodriguez was warned many times throughout the match to improve position but chose to stay in neutral guard without damaging strikes or attempts to pass to dominant position.
4. Takedown and defense:
Nogueira scored one clean takedown and defended 2 times. Ricco scored 3 Takedowns. Ricco wins this criteria.
5. Aggressiveness:
Nogueira wins by a large margin due to his many attempts at submission and his forward progression while striking. The referee warned Ricco many times in this area, but did not award a yellow card penalty.
6. Weight difference:
N/A. Ricco had a sizeable weight advantage but was not more than 15 kilos.

Penalties: No penalties were given although Ricco had many warnings to improve position.

Decision: Nogueira


Here is the whole article on Sherdog:

https://www.google.com/amp/m.sherdo...t-Hume-Defends-Nog-vs-Ricco-Decision-1157/amp

Much easier to attack subs when your opponent can’t blast you with elbows on the ground.

Ricco was robbed, and prides no elbows on the ground rule was bullshit.

 

[tasticles]

Matt Hume doesn't know whatbhes talking about. Whonus he to decide? Just another big nog nut hugger

 

[Locoo2]

I heard so.many times how good Minotauro boxing was, trainning with cuban olimpic boxers yadda yadda yadda, but he consistenly ate knuckle sandwiches, blocked fists with his head, and had no power in his punches.

 

[Taric]

prides no elbows on the ground rule was bullshit.

Bellator tournaments had the same rules. It's to stop cuts to the face from hindering fighters from having 2 fights in 1 night.

 

[Toco]

Bellator tournaments had the same rules. It's to stop cuts to the face from hindering fighters from having 2 fights in 1 night.

but this was in all pride fights, right? instead of only on tournaments

 

[Kingz]

but this was in all pride fights, right? instead of only on tournaments

Yes, PRIDE didn’t allow elbows. Strikeforce also didn’t allow elbows pre-Zuffa.