News Ronda Rousey finally opens up about reason she quit mma

Mike said:
Overnight? Yeah more like people started talking about how he was physically declining YEARS before he lost. And when he did lose it was after dominating the division for a decade. It's incredibly weird that Fedor haters act like that isn't impressive somehow. No matter how you crunch the numbers he was the most impressive hw of his generation.
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Please tell me more about how Fedor being "too old" at 32 caused him to recklessly jump into Werdum's guard and get immediately triangled for that dumb move by him.

You guys will never acknowledge that Fedor's bad tendencies of recklessness were the cause of his losses. He still had his power, hand speed, and grappling, AKA the things he'd always relied on to win, and could've probably won all those fights if he just fought smarter. You know, like a veteran is supposed to. Or are you going to also claim a 40 year old chinny Ryan Bader isn't a great matchup for Fedor and was the easiest way he could've ever won the Bellator HW title? Funny how Ryan himself says he beat Fedor because Fedor always defends the exact same way and so he just counters it. Funny too how the Bellator commentators themselves literally pre-fight called that exact punch as a vulnerability of Fedor that Bader should target.

It's almost like everybody else is willing to look at Fedor and see technical weaknesses that are there. You instead call it "catching" him cause his prime's gone and it's all just some lucky break by others who could've never done this earlier in his career. Sad.

Fedor's problems were self-inflicted, not anything related to physical deterioriation. And even if they were that's worse for Fedor. Like what, you'd rather he's too stupid to change his style and so keeps fighting the same way anyways and gets caught cause he's not fast enough or his chin's shit? It's suddenly everybody else's fault that Fedor still liked exploding into things instead of adapting into an Econoreem or Decision Arlovski style for his aging body? How exactly is this scenario good for Fedor as an MMA fighter if he literally can't adapt?

Fedor's career was great precisely because it was balanced on such a knife's edge the way he always fought. Prime or later stage, you knew he was going in there for the kill. Sad that you guys try and pretend otherwise.
 
Hairrow said:
Gave it to herself during her shadowboxing sessions. They were legendary
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You're on the fast track to CTE for sure, slamming your head into your shoulder like that:
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markg171 said:
Please tell me more about how Fedor being "too old" at 32 caused him to recklessly jump into Werdum's guard and get immediately triangled for that dumb move by him.

You guys will never acknowledge that Fedor's bad tendencies of recklessness were the cause of his losses. He still had his power, hand speed, and grappling, AKA the things he'd always relied on to win, and could've probably won all those fights if he just fought smarter. You know, like a veteran is supposed to. Or are you going to also claim a 40 year old chinny Ryan Bader isn't a great matchup for Fedor and was the easiest way he could've ever won the Bellator HW title? Funny how Ryan himself says he beat Fedor because Fedor always defends the exact same way and so he just counters it. Funny too how the Bellator commentators themselves literally pre-fight called that exact punch as a vulnerability of Fedor that Bader should target.

It's almost like everybody else is willing to look at Fedor and see technical weaknesses that are there. You instead call it "catching" him cause his prime's gone and it's all just some lucky break by others who could've never done this earlier in his career. Sad.

Fedor's problems were self-inflicted, not anything related to physical deterioriation. And even if they were that's worse for Fedor. Like what, you'd rather he's too stupid to change his style and so keeps fighting the same way anyways and gets caught cause he's not fast enough or his chin's shit? It's suddenly everybody else's fault that Fedor still liked exploding into things instead of adapting into an Econoreem or Decision Arlovski style for his aging body? How exactly is this scenario good for Fedor as an MMA fighter if he literally can't adapt?

Fedor's career was great precisely because it was balanced on such a knife's edge the way he always fought. Prime or later stage, you knew he was going in there for the kill. Sad that you guys try and pretend otherwise.
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I like how you put things I never said in a conversation that never happened in quotes. That's how I know you're a rational person with no crazy biases.
 
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Mike said:
I like how you put things I never said in a conversation that never happened in quotes. That's how I know you're a rational person with no crazy biases.
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So you're not blaming his losses on a supposed physical decline...?

Mike said:
Overnight? Yeah more like people started talking about how he was physically declining YEARS before he lost.
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What exactly caused his losses in your mind then. Let's hear it.
 
dc007 said:
Well she did admit to hiding it so she could continue doing risky behavior.
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She just wanted an environment where she could still "win"
That wasn't happening in MMA anymore and she knew that.
 
Hopefully she crosses over to boxing since that's the thing to do. Maybe she can now beat up Floyd like everyone told us she could do
 
There are Power Couples and you have CTE Couples... Travis and Ronda are the 2nd.
 
Truth is ... Meisha Tate exposed her. Ronda was all first round finishes. Then had a 3-round war with Tate.

Ronda looked like she had tight boxing at first.
Raised her shoulders, tucked her chin, nice straight cross (close enough).

Meisha Tate clipped her.

Suddenly Ronda only had only one obvious technique, in the standup.
There was the same repeating muscle memory. Punch, takedown.
Clearly Ronda was an animal grappler, who never built a solid recovery/chin sparring.

Hate the term "chin".
A lot of it is training the body to focus when dazed, not to freak out, or disconnect.
The only brain connection when dazed is fundamentals, muscle memory.
It is recovery. Not just of breathing, but mentally stepping back, getting visual focus back.

Tate rocked Ronda, and she looked like an amateur ... on the feet.

On the ground, Ronda showed real heart, making it a battle, staying in the fight.
Her muscle memory was very strong, even dazed. Her strength was obvious when shaking Tate off chokes.
It was really a great fight, because it removed the aura of Ronda for 15 minutes.

Ronda won, but after that, the boxing was so obvious. It was bag work, not sparring.

Nobody thought for a second that ronda wasn't sparring real competition.
She was clearly grappling against competition.
Turned out, if you have ever compared bag to spar, you saw it.
Despite Rogan claiming she focused on learning standup,
she clearly did not have real sparring.

You can see the muscle memory comparison in the Meisha Tate fight (in the UFC, the second match)

Meisha Tate had far more over-all fight experience by the rematch, with various outcomes.

Ronda, was all first round, punch as hard as possible, grab em, submission.

Meisha took Ronda into deep water everywhere. This was when the Ronda aura was being hyped to no end by the ufc... but really, Ronda took one good punch, and her weakness was exposed.
It wasn't judo concussions, or that she couldn't throw a nice punch, or that she didn't have technique,
it was simply that technique was mitt work, not defensive spars.

There is a world of difference from looking good on hitting the bag,
to surviving punches long enough to even be in the fight.

Meisha Tate doesn't get the credit she is due for exposing Ronda, because she still lost the fight.

Her coach specifically cracked the ronda code. Ronda even made a mean face every fight, pulled her shoulders up, threw really solid punches... but didn't have combos, head movement, defensive evading & pressure techniques. She simply dominated being a bully. Then Meisha, Holly, Amanda bullied her back.
Still think Meisha fought an incredible fight and exposed Ronda first, and laid the standup blueprint.
 
Although I believe that she probably had a bunch of concussions in Judo and that she need to stop MMA... it is hard to imagine that moving from MMA to Pro wrestling would be the logical next phase.
 
CasualBot said:
Truth is ... Meisha Tate exposed her. Ronda was all first round finishes. Then had a 3-round war with Tate.
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nahhhhhh that aint true. Ronda was definitley fighting more conservativley in this fight.

She definitley needed the mat time.

Someone who has alot of 30 second finishes are not "exposed" just because a fight goes longer. No one is ever going to always have those.

She def showed defensive holes in the standup though, but she took the punches well enough. But getting punched by Miesha and punched by Holly is two different things.
 
LOL concussions way more likely to get those in wrestling

Textbook Bully

When you look up Bully in the dictionary theres a picture of RR waving at you.
 
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