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you could try reading the link you provided.
International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V11
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Seen a lot of footage of Ukrainians treating Russian POWs pretty well. Even one guy was yelling other Ukrainians to leave the POW alone, stop calling him names, etc.
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Russian Soldiers Admit Military Is Shooting Its Own Members
Russian servicemen stand guard at the destroyed part of the Ilyich Iron and Steel Works in Ukraine's port city of Mariupol on May 18, 2022,
"In a video published Monday by Ukraine's security service, two Russian prisoners of war described how military units from their country shoot their own retreating troops.
The two men were reportedly captured while fighting in the war in Ukraine. One of the two POWs was identified by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) as a "machine gunner" in Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB).
During an interview with SBU interrogators, the unnamed FSB operative said he was given orders to open fire on deserters in Ukraine.
"I stood on the second line and did not allow the 'Z-assault' forces to retreat. The order was to fire to kill in case they retreat," the Russian said, according to a translation by the Ukrainian state news agency Ukrinform.
The SBU referred to the other captured man as a "Z-assault" unit soldier, who reportedly said he was afraid that his own comrades would kill him if he fled from battle. As a result, he decided to surrender to Ukrainian troops.
"After arriving there [at the position], we didn't get any instructions, they told us to get into the bush and hide from the 'birds.' These are quadcopters. In case we decided to retreat, we were told that there are blocking units behind us.... They would shoot anyone fleeing," the soldier said, according to Ukrinform.
Russian Soldiers Admit Military Is Shooting Its Own Members (msn.com)
Throwing your troops into a hail of gunfire is no way to win a war.
Zerg rush tactics indeed...
The term now seems to have been stolen by marketing execs, but military historians used to refer to this strategy as a "loss leader" tactics.
As usual, southpark explains things better than most.
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Brilliant idea mate. Why did I not think of that?
It does not address the issue as to why the Ukrainian T-72 tank is crushing a Ukrainian M1224 MRAP with soldiers still in it. All the while being exposed to a Russian 'Lancet' drone strike itself.
The VOIN DV Telegram channel claims that this was an attempt by Ukraine to remove damaged equipment from the battlefield under fire. "The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is very upset when broken and abandoned armored vehicles end up on our [channel], so the crews are forced to risk their lives trying to evacuate them.” VOIN DV wrote. “As you can see, these attempts have the opposite effect - complete confusion begins, and then this whole circus falls into the lens of our drones, and tanks with infantry fighting vehicles become an easy target for artillery, aviation and [Lancet drones]." But what definitively happened is unknown at the moment. We also don't know what happened to these vehicles and the troops in them.
Hanna Maliar says that Ukrainian forces are facing minefields, anti-tank ditches, armored counterattacks, Russian fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters, ATGMs, loitering munitions, and intense artillery fire from Russian forces. https://t.me/annamaliar/844
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One first big stage for all world was when a lot of them had posted their war crimes with pleasure.
In one case guy had posted how he had killed unarmed russian civie from behind with assault rifle and with happiness after this did looting togeteher with mates. Guy had posted this in relatively small media website and their admin only after 6 weeks had noticed number of foreign visitors watched this shit..
. $ you pay = partially is also quality you might get....
In one case guy had posted how he had killed unarmed russian civie from behind with assault rifle and with happiness after this did looting togeteher with mates. Guy had posted this in relatively small media website and their admin only after 6 weeks had noticed number of foreign visitors watched this shit..
. $ you pay = partially is also quality you might get....
Telegram channels <45>.
Obiviously everyone with brains might get by simple logic that russia had enough time to build fortification lines and install minefields + they without any doubts still does have a lot of mines....
Ofc for obivious reasons this alone + drones and sattellites + informants if artillery and MRLS fire added might work really well...
Aviation role is exaggregated....
Both sides still does have some air def stuff and russia mainly is using two methods:
1. To drop gliding bombs before aircraft reached ukr controlled area.
2. To launch missiles from as far as it is possible distance.
0 normal CAS missions are possible.
.Obiviously everyone with brains might get by simple logic that russia had enough time to build fortification lines and install minefields + they without any doubts still does have a lot of mines....
Ofc for obivious reasons this alone + drones and sattellites + informants if artillery and MRLS fire added might work really well...
Aviation role is exaggregated....
Both sides still does have some air def stuff and russia mainly is using two methods:
1. To drop gliding bombs before aircraft reached ukr controlled area.
2. To launch missiles from as far as it is possible distance.
0 normal CAS missions are possible.
Kadirovites were well known as hardcore Tik Tok and Telegram etc users.
So if someone had posted any pic or vid with 0 doctored metadata and without delay in some pro kremlin oriented group, ukr might had get coordinates....
It it was Prigozin, most likely some accidental fire with 100% success to kill ha happened. Without using ukr.
Or specific tea for Kadirovites.
So if someone had posted any pic or vid with 0 doctored metadata and without delay in some pro kremlin oriented group, ukr might had get coordinates....
It it was Prigozin, most likely some accidental fire with 100% success to kill ha happened. Without using ukr.
Or specific tea for Kadirovites.
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Are you telling me Putin is fibbing say it's not so!
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The sight of several dead Russian soldiers next to their charred armored vehicles outside Storozhov on Wednesday seemed to belie the claim by Russian President Vladimir Putin that Ukraine is losing 10 times more fighters than his forces early in Kyiv's counteroffensive.
The scene from the newly retaken village in the Donetsk province, reported by Reuters, presents only a snapshot of the first week of intensified fighting as both sides try to gain the upper hand both on the battlefield and the information front.
Ukraine says it has recaptured seven villages and about 35 square miles from occupied areas in the southeast front, but also acknowledged sustaining significant losses of personnel and equipment."
At this point why does CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Wall Street Journal and Fox continue to carry Putin water every time he makes some insane claim about how his military is crushing Ukrainian army 10-1 BS and media runs with it.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...corpses-ukrainian-losses-updates/70322573007/
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The sight of several dead Russian soldiers next to their charred armored vehicles outside Storozhov on Wednesday seemed to belie the claim by Russian President Vladimir Putin that Ukraine is losing 10 times more fighters than his forces early in Kyiv's counteroffensive.
The scene from the newly retaken village in the Donetsk province, reported by Reuters, presents only a snapshot of the first week of intensified fighting as both sides try to gain the upper hand both on the battlefield and the information front.
Ukraine says it has recaptured seven villages and about 35 square miles from occupied areas in the southeast front, but also acknowledged sustaining significant losses of personnel and equipment."
At this point why does CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Wall Street Journal and Fox continue to carry Putin water every time he makes some insane claim about how his military is crushing Ukrainian army 10-1 BS and media runs with it.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...corpses-ukrainian-losses-updates/70322573007/
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When he brought the war bloggers in he talked them to their faces looked like so this explains the 18th floor hotel room you put us in now.
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Russia/Ukraine Conflict
Campaign Assessment, 14 June 2023
Key Takeaways:
Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Malyar stated on June 14 that Ukrainian troops have advanced between 200 to 500 meters in unspecified sectors of the Bakhmut front and 300 to 350 meters in unspecified parts of the Zaporizhia direction. Russian milbloggers reported that Ukrainian forces are continuing counterattacks on the northwestern, northeastern, and southwestern outskirts of Bakhmut. Ukrainian and Russian sources additionally reported that fighting continued in western Donetsk Oblast, particularly around Makarivka (directly south of Velyka Novosilka), and in western Zaporizhia Oblast south of Orikhiv. Russian milbloggers speculated that heavy rain and poor weather in southern Ukraine may have decreased the tempo of Ukrainian attacks, but Malyar emphasized that weather conditions do not always have an impact of Ukrainian offensive actions. Ukrainian Tavrisk Group of Forces Spokesperson Valery Shershen noted that Ukrainian forces in the Tavrisk (Zaporizhia) direction are prioritizing strikes on Russian electronic warfare (EW) systems, and ISW has previously assessed that Russian EW capabilities have been critical in complicating Ukrainian attacks on this sector of the front. US Deputy Pentagon Press Secretary Sabrina Singh affirmed the United States’ commitment to partially replacing Ukrainian losses of the US-provided equipment used in counteroffensive operations but noted that there may not be a one-for-one replacement ratio.
Campaign Assessment, 14 June 2023
Key Takeaways:
- Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in at least three directions and made gains on June 14.
- Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces struck a division of the 20th Combined Arms Army (Western Military District) near Kreminna, Luhansk Oblast.
- Russian forces conducted missile and drone strikes across Ukraine on June 14.
- Russian forces conducted limited ground attacks in the Kupyansk direction and south of Kreminna.
- Ukrainian and Russian forces continued ground attacks in the Bakhmut area.
- Russian forces continued limited ground attacks on the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line.
- Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations near the administrative border of Donetsk and Zaporizhia oblasts and reportedly made gains in this area as of June 14.
- Ukrainian forces continued limited ground attacks in western Zaporizhia Oblast on June 14.
- Satellite imagery suggests that Russian helicopters defending against Ukrainian counteroffensive operations in southern Ukraine are likely deployed to an airfield in Berdyansk, Zaporizhia Oblast.
Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Malyar stated on June 14 that Ukrainian troops have advanced between 200 to 500 meters in unspecified sectors of the Bakhmut front and 300 to 350 meters in unspecified parts of the Zaporizhia direction. Russian milbloggers reported that Ukrainian forces are continuing counterattacks on the northwestern, northeastern, and southwestern outskirts of Bakhmut. Ukrainian and Russian sources additionally reported that fighting continued in western Donetsk Oblast, particularly around Makarivka (directly south of Velyka Novosilka), and in western Zaporizhia Oblast south of Orikhiv. Russian milbloggers speculated that heavy rain and poor weather in southern Ukraine may have decreased the tempo of Ukrainian attacks, but Malyar emphasized that weather conditions do not always have an impact of Ukrainian offensive actions. Ukrainian Tavrisk Group of Forces Spokesperson Valery Shershen noted that Ukrainian forces in the Tavrisk (Zaporizhia) direction are prioritizing strikes on Russian electronic warfare (EW) systems, and ISW has previously assessed that Russian EW capabilities have been critical in complicating Ukrainian attacks on this sector of the front. US Deputy Pentagon Press Secretary Sabrina Singh affirmed the United States’ commitment to partially replacing Ukrainian losses of the US-provided equipment used in counteroffensive operations but noted that there may not be a one-for-one replacement ratio.
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