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  1. Rimbaud82

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    Yeah that's a good way to put it, 'raw sadism' vs internalised religious sadism. Haven't seen Price in anything else to compare his performance here too, but I thought it was very good.


    Well, I've probably told you before I don't actually enjoy scary horror movies at all, so it certainly wasn't a criticism!

    Indeed, we can.


    Yes I did a bit of research after and the real Hopkins died in his best after a period of illness, but you can certainly see why they added the character of Marshall/love interest - it added a human aspect to the witch hunts through their relationship, and an element of Hopkins getting 'what he deserved' rather than just dying in bed, but as you say, it's certainly not a happy ending either. I agree the film did an excellent job of conveying the way he was consumed by the need for revenge, to the expense of everything else.
     
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    I now know what the Conquistadors felt like when the Indians told them that they had never heard of Jesus Christ.
     
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    Check out Theatre of Blood
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    It's legitimately one of the greatest Shakespearean films ever.
    Was there a film that really scared you in the past?

    There were a couple of scenes in Inland Empire that scared the wits out of me.
     
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    Not really, just never liked watching them as a kid, was always a big scaredy cat lol.
     
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    Trotsky Social Capitalist / Capitalistic Communist

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    What horror movies are on that one scary hand?

    The only movie that ever really scared me was the American version of The Ring.
     
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    Watched Sherdog favourite Hell and Highwater, definitely enjoyed it although I could also tell it came from the same writer as Sicario, It did for me share some of the weaknesses I found with that film in terms of being rather messy and generally reaching beyond its grasp although in this case this wasn't such an issue as the film had more in the way of character and a sense of fun(most obviously bridges, made by a fan of the Coens True Grit I guess?) to it rather than reaching for profundity who's presense was questionable.
     
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    Brigsby Bear.
    Quietly one of the best Films of last year.
    Really sympathetic lead performance by Kyle Mooney and Greg Kinnear.
    It has a lot of nods to the great Sci Fi shows & Films, without ever going too Hipster.
    I guess some critics might go after their portrayal of kidnapping, but thats not the Film's goal.
     
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    Last night I watched Winstanley (1975), which I thought was absolutely brilliant! I really loved it, though I wouldn't say it's a film that everyone would enjoy.

    It deals with Gerrard Winstanley and the 'Diggers', one of many radical religious groups that emerged in the aftermath of the English Civil War. From what I had read it was shot on a bit of a shoestring budget, with almost entirely amateur actors (the guy that played Winstanley himself was a schoolteacher), but as with a lot of films that do this (one that that come to my mind is The Tree of Wooden Clogs) it actually helps the film by resulting in much more naturalistic portrayals - which is very fitting considering the subject matter. The Diggers were a kind of proto-'communist'/'anarchist' group who thought that the land should be 'a common treasury for all', and so sought out to set up a kind of commune in 1649, cultivating the common land on St George's Hill, where - as you might expect - they faced significant hostility from the powers that be.

    It was shot entirely in black-and-white (no doubt due to budget constraints), but it looked beautiful with lots of wonderful shots of the rolling English landscapes. There are indoor shots, but other than the Diggers huts there are hardly any scenes of buildings; the focus is very clearly on the land, and the Diggers working it -

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    For me it was also great to see how historically accurate/authentic it was; the costumes all look perfect, and the narration is taken from Winstanley's own pamphlets, apparently they even borrowed armour from the Tower of London and used rare breeds of animals which are true to the period! The film just looks and 'feels' right. If I had any criticism it's that in some ways it's too much a product of it's time (ie. the 70s) and there is perhaps an overemphasis on the quasi-marxist elements of Winstanley and the Diggers, and not enough on the intensely religious aspect of the movement. But obviously that was in vogue at the time and despite that criticism, I loved the film as a whole.

    For anyone who isn't already interested in this period, they might find it a bit slow, and maybe even a bit dull, but for me it was a wonderful depiction of a fascinating moment in British history. I specialise in 17th century history, and find this particular period especially fascinating, so I can't help but wax lyrically about it lol.
     
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    Saw You Were Never Really Here last night. Phoenix, as always, puts in an outstanding performance. This time as a psychologically damaged hitman, who is actually somewhat nuanced - he's capable of extreme violence and is haunted by his experiences of childhood abuse, war etc. but he still lives with and cares for his mum. Won't talk about the plot too much as I don't wanna accidentally spoil anything; the general outline of a psychologically damaged individual who tries to rescue a young girl explains the Taxi Driver comparisons - one scene seemed to be a deliberate allusion - and in some ways it's not the most innovative plot, but the style of the film made it much more that the sum of it's parts (along with the excellent score by Johnny Greenwood). It also put me in mind of Ben Wheatley's Kill List. It's very sparse and doesn't spell everything out for you which I liked a lot, though it could be a little bit confusing at times.
    On the whole...very strange and intense, and certainly a slow-burner, but I thought it was excellent; the sort of film that lingers with you for a while after you leave the cinema.
     
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    Could you elaborate on that? For Sicario that is.
    Why does the poster say A Beautiful Day?
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    That movie started off creepy and became terrifying.
     
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    That's what it's released as in France, but that's the best poster imo.

    Yeah, very unsettling film. Not that YWNRH is quite like that, just certain stylistic elements, the hitman with PTSD angle etc.
     
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    I'd actually like the same elaboration for Hell or High Water lol.

    I felt like it was very well-contained, especially on the second viewing. Love the scene where the guys are escorting their herd away from the fire like "what year is this?"
     
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    I remember wondering if that was there to point out the theme of the film to the folks in the audience who still didn't get it. A bit on the nose in that way.
     
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    It was absolutely (the film was guilty of that in a few places, especially with regard to the bank stuff and Bridges' whole character), but it was also captured in such an aesthetic way that I was able to reflect and attach a bunch of emotion to everything that was happening.

    The world was passing by and what was left behind was going to stay true to itself, regretfully or otherwise, until the end.
     
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    Annihilation.
    Definitely the best Film to come out in 2018 so far.
    Sucks that it didn't come out on the big screen outside the US & China.
    Natalie Portman & Jennifer Jason Leigh are the standouts in this.
    Typically for an Alex Garland Film, it's visually gorgeous with some really creepy images & scenes that took me back to stuff like Alien (esp. the Alien spacecraft scene).
    It's probably too nihilistic for general moviegoers,which is why the Producers wanted to change it.
    It's hard to even find similar Films to this, probably something like Solaris,Stalker,2001 with a bit of Lovecraft.

    I also saw Marked for Death, which is the last of Seagal's "good" movies i hadn't watched.
    It might've been Seagal's most brutal Film although stuff like Out for Justice or Under Siege has better fight choreography.
    The Jamaican Voodoo drug dealers were pretty fun.
    Overall i think it's more raw than Seagal's other early stuff and this is what differentiates it from those.
     
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    I'm finally getting around to watching all the Best Picture nominees/winner. I saw Shape of Water in theatres last week - I thought it was very good, not great. I definitely saw better movies in 2017.

    SPOILER ALERT FOR THREE BILLBOARDS OUTSIDE EBBING, MISSOURI

    I watched Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri last night and WOW was I let down. I love Frances McDormand and am not disputing her best actress award because she did a great job in this, but wow I can't fathom how this won best screenplay and best picture at the Golden Globes. Some of the acting performances were comically bad - her son was HORRENDOUS to the point I laughed out loud. There were so many cheese-dick moments that made me cringe: the suicide notes were horribly cheesy, the attempts at humour were garbage (particularly the ex-husband's dumb girlfriend when she interrupts the family fight).

    There's no consequences to any actions - the redneck cop nearly beats a man to death for no reason and simply gets fired. Mildred drills a hole through a dentist's thumb and the police chief just lets her go, despite the fact the dentist is pressing full charges. Mildred firebombs the police station from across the street, and when the police arrive they let her go because the local midget says she was with him - no investigation, despite the fact she obviously left a ton of evidence in the building across the street. It was such a stupid, stupid fucking script.

    Maybe someone here who enjoyed it can tell me what I missed, because I was really disappointed.

    So far I think Get Out should have won best picture, followed by Dunkirk. Darkest Hour and Shape of Water were very good. Three Billboards was abysmal. Haven't seen the rest yet.
     
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    Personal taste of course but I was just left feeling that film lacked the depth it seemed to think it had. The switch at the end really fell rather flat for me especially, simply not enough invested in Del Toro's character either personally or in his relationship with Blunt's.

    Again really the issue for me is that it didn't feel like it was progressing towards the story it was trying to tell that effectively. It was very entertaining turning its wheels and I'd watch Bridges play a gruff old un PC lawman endlessly but up against the obvious comparison in No Country For Old Men I didn't feel the same level of focus was there.

    As far as the above comment on Three Billboards goes I personally think one of the more effective aspects of both McDonough brothers is that they don't shy away from playing up pathos in the way a lot of similar meta cinema does. Gives them rather more individuality than just Taraninto or Coen followers. As far as the comments on plotting goes I think its implied that there's a deliberate blind eye turned to offences reflecting the smalltown atmosphere plus of course the film as a whole does exist in a kind of elevated reality.
     
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    Yeah outside the performances 3 Billboards sucked.
     
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    You should all see Game Night. The most fun I've had in a theater since that one strange time years ago.
     
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