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Is this your way of telling us you're not an Angel Heart fan?
It's decent. It's certainly not great. I'd probably rather rewatch Johnny Handsome.
Is this your way of telling us you're not an Angel Heart fan?
I'd say this is one of those films where the characters are more interesting than likable. Which, IMO, Carlie and Pauline really are.
* Second best scene of the movie. Geraldine Page acted her heart out there.
That was the best scene in the movie for me, the linchpin that tied it together. It brought to the surface the protagonists underlying characteristics and motivations. Charlie wants to remain tribal, even if it damns him. It's habitus, that feeling of belonging -- being stuck even -- to some group in society, and for Charlie it's very intrinsic.
The best summary about his character is that he's the kind of guys that swallow all the pills in the box at once. Eric Roberts went full "Last Exit to Brooklyn" on that performance.
Frankly, I thought the worst part was the ending. Paulie has just fucked up... again. Bed Bug Eddie is going to shit concrete for hours -- but revenge is undoubtedly coming.
I really thought Charlie was going to punch Paulie when he said 'what do you need a suit for, you don't got no job' for a second time.
I liked when Kick boxer chick cracked Charlie w/ gloves on leading to sexy time
The part when they got rolled on while opening the safe, and the cop immediately dies. I liked that.
I laughed at Barney's Irish music escape through the floor.
"How did you let this happen to you?"
"Well, I let me whole life happen to me."
I can't find the scene but at one point Charlie and Paulie are crossing the street and Paulie is literally on Charlie's arm like they are a married couple.
Last Exit to Brooklyn was surprisingly good.
Seriously...
This must have been the inspiration for the 'call on me' video
You're laughing at their absurd attire?
Bud.
Nothing about Eric Roberts' attire is absurd.
Here's the thing about Eric Roberts.......
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Our Director
(that's the mustach that directed Cool Hand Luke, people)Stuart Rosenberg was born on August 11, 1927 in Brooklyn, New York City, New York, USA. He was a director and producer, known for Cool Hands Luke (1967), Question 7 (1961) and The Defenders (1961). He was married to Margot Pohoryles. He died on March 15, 2007 in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles, California, USA.
Our Stars
Eric Roberts
Mickey Rourke
Film Overview
Premise: Two cousins unknowingly rob the mob and face the dangerous consequences.
Budget: $8 million
Box Office: $6.8 million
Trivia
(courtesy of IMDB)
* Michael Cimino was asked to direct this film but didn't think it was a good film for him. As a favor to the producers, who were on a deadline, he went to New York and did all the preproduction. When they were set to begin shooting, the producers again tried to get Cimino to direct but he told them he thought, considering the budget, they needed someone who could work faster than he was used to working and so they hired Rosenberg.
* According to author' Christopher Heard', the movie was originally planned to feature the first on-screen pairing of Robert De Niro and Al Pacino, with the duo set to play Charlie and Paulie respectively. In the end, Charlie and Paulie were cast with Mickey Rourke and Eric Roberts respectively.
* The movie did actually utilize the "Greenwich Village" of the film's The Pope Of Greenwich Village (1984) title, situated in Lower Manhattan, New York City, as a filming location.
* A number of film directors have been attached or associated with the production of this picture. These have included Ulu Grosbard, Michael Cimino, Ron Maxwell, and finally, Stuart Rosenberg was the film's director.
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I'm wondering if you're a little forgiving in your assessments.
* So here we have Rourke sitting alone against the wall of a ruined apartment in New York after being abandoned by his loved one. Didn't we see this exact same moment in Light Sleeper, which was also a Coolthulu nomination? Does he have some sort of strange fascination going on?
Ten years earlier, that would've been cool, but by 1984, no fucking way. And besides, De Niro already did this movie ten years earlier. It was called Mean Streets. I'll come back to this when I have time to contribute properly to this thread, but The Pope of Greenwich Village is basically Mean Streets with Mickey Rourke playing the Harvey Keitel character and Eric Roberts playing the De Niro character.
How Eric Roberts Went Big, Crashed Hard, and Became the Hardest-Working Man in Hollywood
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/01/eric-roberts-the-hardest-working-man-in-hollywood
His insanity is intoxicating
In 1983, Eric was appearing in Hartford in The Glass Menagerie when he got the script for The Pope of Greenwich Village, based on the darkly comic best-seller by Vince Patrick. It came with a note from the producers offering him the lead role of either Paulie or Charlie, Italian cousins who get on the wrong side of the Mob after pulling off a heist. Eric studied the script and chose Paulie, the younger, edgier cousin, only to hear that they’d hoped he’d play Charlie, because they didn’t think he looked tough enough to play the hothead would-be mobster Paulie. But he didn’t want to look tough—he wanted to play him as “a mama’s boy who wants to be a tough guy, because I know those guys.” So he lost 30 pounds and had his hair permed, and he played Paulie as a hyped-up, reckless dumb-ass who gets his thumb sliced off by Bedbug Eddie’s henchmen.
Eric felt that the producers—and Mickey Rourke, his co-star—were not happy. That’s not how they saw the character.
Eric recalls, “O.K., we get five days of rehearsal before we’re starting to shoot. It’s the last week of August. I’m ready to go. I know every word of my dialogue. I’m in character. I spent a lot of time in Little Italy.” (After The Pope of Greenwich Village,Eric says, he never had to pay for a cup of espresso in Little Italy again.) “I know what I’m doing—I know all the lingo.”
Three days in, the director asked Eric to resign.
“So I went up to Mickey’s room”—they were staying at the Mayflower Hotel in Manhattan. “What’s up? The director asked me to resign. What?! So we called the producers and they fired that director.” They eventually hired Stuart Rosenberg (Cool Hand Luke, The Amityville Horror) to take over, and he understood what Eric was after. And Eric’s Paulie is unforgettable—a driving piston of big dreams and bad ideas, alongside Rourke’s cool, savvy, heroic Charlie. They are great together, but in scene after scene you just can’t take your eyes off Eric. He nails it again, playing another schizo-affective personality, a dangerous, charismatic dude, which meant producers stopped thinking of him as a leading man. He was just too good as Paulie.
He’d crossed over.
He sure did.
Ten years earlier, that would've been cool, but by 1984, no fucking way. And besides, De Niro already did this movie ten years earlier. It was called Mean Streets. I'll come back to this when I have time to contribute properly to this thread, but The Pope of Greenwich Village is basically Mean Streets with Mickey Rourke playing the Harvey Keitel character and Eric Roberts playing the De Niro character.
I have to steal to Simpsons reference before that scoundrel muntjac gets to it first
* Ah yes, aerobics. Instant 80's eroticism in a movie. I miss when they would just randomly insert that. Like in Wargames, when Broody calls his girlfriend, and she's all sweaty and panting from a stretching-routine
GOAT aerobics film is Killer Workout (1987) though. Slasher movie set in an aerobics studio. And yes... one-third of it is just montages.
Frankly, I thought the worst part was the ending. Paulie has just fucked up... again. Bed Bug Eddie is going to shit concrete for hours -- but revenge is undoubtedly coming. But Charlie acts completely cool about it. He has no outbursts or outrages, despite probably having been handed a death-sentence that not even his tape can save him from. Where's the climax here? It feels like we're being driven towards an inevitable endpoint, a cataclysm of all their decisions. What about the consequences? But no, just smile about it. Is it all just some galactic joke? Does it all really just fix itself, like Charlie mumbled? I wanted grimness and consequences, damit!!!
I had a dinner date with the wife and some friends tonight but I did watch the movie. I'll post my thoughts on it tomorrow. AHHHH THEY TOOK MY THUMB! scene is the best thing I've ever seen.
Opening song is rad. Love it.
The part when they got rolled on while opening the safe, and the cop immediately dies. I liked that.
The ending was almost slapstick and didn't really resolve much.
Really? I thought I was the only one.......I admit that for 30+ years I've found plenty of occasion to say "...some kind of fuckin' asshoe?" with Eric Robert's voice in my head.
I don't know how interesting they were. Annoying sounds closer.
then he says, only 3rd cousins
but in reality they walk arm and arm like they are married
Are you saying Roberts went Alexis Arquette level performance? I still can't get over the fact that Alexis Arquette was Georgette in Last Exit to Brooklyn...
You cannot even comprehend the spit take I did when Bed Bug Eddie jumped up and dived head first through a door. What in the fuck....he dived head first through a glass door while loosening his tie lol.
You, friend, amaze me. You really seen it all, haven't you?
movie called Never Too Young To Die. (Waits to see if Europe1 has seen this.)
The 80's was the pinnacle of humanity for so many reasons, but random aerobics is in the top ten.* Ah yes, aerobics. Instant 80's eroticism in a movie. I miss when they would just randomly insert that. Like in Wargames, when Broody calls his girlfriend, and she's all sweaty and panting from a stretching-routine
That was nuts. And then Paulie and Charlie just casually walked down the street, bickering like an old married couple. Such a weird ending.You cannot even comprehend the spit take I did when Bed Bug Eddie jumped up and dived head first through a door. What in the fuck....he dived head first through a glass door while loosening his tie lol.