Somebody sell me on Trump overturning sacred Native land in Utah

[Beastman09]

lmao this whole country was taken from the Natives. He is just doing the American thing and following our founding father's footsteps. Those Native Americans will be relocated anyways so it's not a huge deal. I mean, they were relocated to that area in the first place. So now we're just relocating them again.

No big deal. History repeats itself.

Wow. What a shitty poster.

 

[ookii]

Its his game plan to draw out the real pocanhontas

 

[RerouteToRemain]

I think you're mistaken, TS. Trump cares very much about the environment and preserving it's treasured land. Just look at his state park.

https://www.outsideonline.com/2181686/brief-history-donald-j-trump-state-park

Are you dense? He donated it to NY. They are responsible for it. They cut the budget to take care of it. It's not his park or responsibility, it's just named after him because he donated it.

 

[Deleted member 509215]

So what? Fuck the “sacred land” bs. I can claim my bathroom as “sacred land” and no one shall take a shit in it cuz I said so. Euros whooped that native ass and conquered, not “stole” the America’s land. They’ll manage.

 

[Slick_36]

Are you dense? He donated it to NY. They are responsible for it. They cut the budget to take care of it. It's not his park or responsibility, it's just named after him because he donated it.

He donated a dilapidated heap of shit that he claimed was worth $100 million as.a tax write off when he couldn’t build the golf course he wanted. It's shitty state is a good indicator of how effective he is as a president.

 

[Vicky]

casinos....never mind, not PC enough for this site

 

[Slick_36]

Living like anybody else in the year 2017 and shopping at Walmart doesn't make native culture dead lol
The romanticized notions of it certainly are, but then again an argument can be made those never really existed in the first place.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. You either get labeled a stone age backwards culture of savages, or you give up the rights to your culture entirely.

 

[FinalFight]

Ive been in the foxhole defending Trump to my liberal gf, my liberal family members, my liberal co workers and so on. Last year I had myriad discussions and lopsided arguments on the streets of nyc defending my vote for him. Ive been on board this whole time, granted it has not been easy at times but I'm still here because I believe in a lot of what he is trying to do and I know a lot of the criticism is manufactured and absolutely hypocritical coming from the other side especially media in general.

With this being said, how the hell can I sell this move that he took away 2 million acres of land from native Americans. Regardless of what the intent is of the future use of the land, how can this be justified? Isn't the most scared thing in this country our history, whether its good or bad, its sacred.

Native Americans and their culture are absolutely sacred and can trace their direct lineage here in North America and for that they are deserved of every ounce of positive law making any group can get. How the hell can this be spun as a good policy? How can anyone not view this as absolute bullying and republican special interest political appeasement at its worst.

I don't know enough about this deal to comment any further than this, but can anyone say anything positive about this? It just seems like a terrible idea and a terrible move from every perspective.

You should read this to your liberal g/f family members word for word and i'm sure they'll be sold on the idea.

So what? Fuck the “sacred land” bs. I can claim my bathroom as “sacred land” and no one shall take a shit in it cuz I said so. Euros whooped that native ass and conquered, not “stole” the America’s land. They’ll manage.

 

[boomertx]

He just undid what Obama did a few years ago. Not like this is land that's been protected for hundreds of years and is suddenly being taken away.

Frankly getting tired of the same old 'sacred land' trope. I don't think there's an acre of land in the U.S. that isn't sacred to the Indians. Eventually people get tired of hearing that and stop listening.

Bottom line is that if this land had much economic value it would have been developed years ago. It wasn't. If anything it's a bone thrown to the state of Utah that didn't want it set aside by Obama. Not like these areas are suddenly going to be overrun by the masses and trashed by developers.

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

lmao this whole country was taken from the Natives. He is just doing the American thing and following our founding father's footsteps. Those Native Americans will be relocated anyways so it's not a huge deal. I mean, they were relocated to that area in the first place. So now we're just relocating them again.

No big deal. History repeats itself.

Which natives was the land stolen from? The tribes have been committing genocide and slavery up on each other when they were taking each other's lands. There were still Native American slaver owners AFTER slavery was abolished.

 

[boomertx]

FYI, here's another one for your liberal pals. That ANWR development clause in the tax plan ain't much. Your liberal pals will make you think it will destroy habitat and migration patterns.

Fact is the development area is less than 2000 acres out of millions of acres. Also, Alaska wants to develop the area. So why not give them a say in how they handle their land and see how this very limited development goes?

 

[RerouteToRemain]

He donated a dilapidated heap of shit that he claimed was worth $100 million as.a tax write off when he couldn’t build the golf course he wanted. It's shitty state is a good indicator of how effective he is as a president.

He owned it for only 8 years and hasn't been responsible for it since 2006...

It's shitty state doesn't have anything to do with him.

 

[oldshadow]

Obama just set up these parks a few years ago, he is not taking res land away.

Every part and parcel of land is "sacred" land to some NA including the land they took when they killed other NA's to take it from them.

In this case it's a week virtue signaling claim at best.

 

[ocfightfan]

Is this land on their reservation or is it just stuff they are claiming because their ancestors occasionally passed through it for hunting and gathering?

 

[hillelslovak87]

Haven't dug into this one yet, but maybe listen to Trump's statements on the issue first (starts around 7:45):

Completely besides the point, but that pic of Trump on that video. Holy shit. Deep state must be giving him selenium in his Bib Mac's. Good god!! He's looking like Steve Bannon more and more.

 

[Andy Capp]

Wow, I've never really understood how white SJW's can hate their own race so much.

Thanks for shedding some light on the subject.

LOL sack of shit. Who is the hater? This post tells us the answer.