Striker submitting a grappler and a grappler KOing a striker?

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  1. aichokyu

    aichokyu Brown Belt

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    I was thinking about the unpredictable aspect of MMA, and examples of a fighter primarily being a grappler koing a striker (they're all multidimensional now, but some still have an unbalance in their skillset, with one very strong aspect that compensates the weakness etc. wrestlers are in between as I do not consider all of them as submission artists if they favor GnP)
    sometimes it is done in a crafty way, as an overhand following a faked takedown, but can even happen in a regular striking exchange I guess

    the fights I tought about are Mir vs Crocop, Gonzaga against poor Crocop again, Werdum against Hunt maybe, alltought Werdum is quite complete in his skillset

    Do you guys have any other examples in mind?

    and then I wondered about the opposite, a striker submitting a grappler, which intuitively seems much less likely to me, maybe only if the grappler if half koed already or gassing bad.

    I thought about hughes almeida, forrest shogun, but hughes is a wrestler, if not a submission artist, and shogun was gassed so it doesn't exactly fit what I'm looking for.
    Does anyone have a fight in mind that would be a good example?


    so far for Striker subbing Grappler :

    anderson vs hendo
    cro cop randleman 2
    rothwell barnett
    pettis henderson

    grappler koing striker:

    crocop randleman 1
    crocop gonzaga
    mir crocop
    werdum hunt
     
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    beaglepuss Newbietown Mod

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    Cro-cop vs Randleman 2
     
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    Anderson submitted Hendo, that's a classic striker subbing a grappler.
     
  4. aichokyu

    aichokyu Brown Belt

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    yes I tought about that, but as I was editing the post, I am not sure I consider randleman a submission guy, maybe I should reformulate my title.
    still crocop as a typical striker submitting is close, maybe there's not better.
     
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    And Crocop vs Randleman 1.

    Weird results from those two fights.
     
  6. aichokyu

    aichokyu Brown Belt

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    yeah that's a good one, thanks
     
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    MMAfanJabroniJew Am the reel gold medal Olympic AAU chumpion

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    Erm .... i guess Fedor submitting Sylvia
     
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    +Bonus points for being the same matchup
     
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    Wiedman cleaning Andersons clock.
     
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    Chris knocking out Anderson silly
     
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    Paulo Thiago koing Koscheck

    Matt Hughes subbing Ricardo Almeida

    Kos and Hugues are not primarly strikers but it still should have been the other way around
     
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    Back when Nick Diaz was a known as a jiu-jitsu fighter:

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  14. aichokyu

    aichokyu Brown Belt

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    Fedor at his best (and I think he had already peaked and wasn't against Sylvia) was the total complete fighter for me, striking wrestling submissions, so I wouldn't be surprised if he submitted or Koed anyone
     
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    aichokyu Brown Belt

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    Yeah that was a surprise
     
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    Rothwell submitting barnett. Pettis submitting bendo
     
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  17. aichokyu

    aichokyu Brown Belt

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    those are good ones, specially pettis and rothwell
    thanks for the gifs
     
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    MMAfanJabroniJew Am the reel gold medal Olympic AAU chumpion

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    Exactly bro.
     
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    funny, cro cop was looking for a heel hook momentarily in the second gonzaga fight too iirc
     
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    When Mir started knocking strikers out -

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