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UFC is no longer a hardcore sport, it is WWE with some real fights.
True hardcore fans respect fighters like Chuck Liddell who wasn’t all about the money and just loved to fight. Look at what happens when fighters care about money; they chase money fights, avoid dangerous matchups, and clog up divisions/ rank squat.Hardcore fans of this sport have historically always cared about fighter pay and treatment.
And it's pretty self evident as to why -
If you're a hardcore fan of this sport, you tend to enjoy some of the finer things and intricacies about it. Something about it has pulled you in, above and beyond the level of a casual.
Maybe it's the sacrifices that fighters make, maybe it's the courage displayed in the heat of battle (heart), maybe its a combination of that stuff and other things, but something has pulled you in. And when you have a high degree of appreciation and respect for what fighters go through, it's both emotionally and intellectually logical to want to see said fighters compensated and treated appropriately.
It is plainly, and self evidently, casual fans of the sport that don't give a shit about fighter pay. They want to see blood and violence. They want to see roided up gorillas swinging wildly until one goes down. Their engagement with the sport starts and stops with the entertainment provided by violence that is momentarily flashing on their screens. Of course when that is the extent of your engagement with the sport, it's completely reasonable to not give a fuck about fighter pay.
So can someone explain to me why the fuck there is a large minority of people within the hardcore Fandom that shit on people concerned about fighter pay? Often, these people don't even attempt to make an argument about whether or not fighter pay is good - they shit on the very idea of giving a fuck about fighter pay and treatment.
Here you are, posting on an obscure karate message board that has been around since the 90s, that is dedicated to the 24/7 365 discussion of mma and martial arts, talking about "why do you give a shit about what another man is paid?" Or "he's not gonna send you a check bro"
Like....BRUH
Do you hear yourself??
Have a look around you.
Look at where you are.
Have a moment of self awareness for the first time in your life.
Motherfuckers are really out here posting 5 McGregor threads a day on a 25 year old karate message board asking "why do you care about fighter pay?"
IDK MAN - maybe because my appreciation of the fighters goes beyond "hurrr durrr sweaty muscle man goes brrrr" *clapping monkey noises*
Do you not realize what a fuckin weirdo you are for being a hardcore fan of this sport and NOT caring about fighter pay? You are a freakish anomaly and should be regarded as such.
Triathletes have gotten better as the sport has been monetised by sponsorship, YouTube, ambassadorship etc
Money improves even those elite athletes.
Though it's a good example, Sherbro, sorry for he previous reply I didn't realise how snippy it was!
There’s a zero percent chance you watched the first ufc in a bar back in 93 …. I’m the commercial distributor for the ufc - no bar was showing the first ufcs … not even with illegalbud I seen the first UFC at a bar back in 93. I've been a fan for 31 years and I could give a flying fuck what these guys make. Why would a person care what someone else earns unless it's their husband or wife. Like grow the fuck up already. 95% of the UFC fights today are shit anyways. Dogfight Wild Tournament's one show was more entertaining than all the UFC cards of the last decade combined minus Mark Hunt vs Bigfoot.
You can always tell someone who started watching MMA and has no conception of fight sports as a whole when they make posts like this.UFC is no longer a hardcore sport, it is WWE with some real fights.
I mean its not like im like ooooh i wonder how much this guy makes.Legends in Pride or K-1 got paid way less than a lot of modern fighters, again I don't especially care, like what is this the money channel?
Its especially dumb as its not just about the fighters but the fans, the less is invested in the sport the worse the standard of the sport will be, in MMA were your drawing in talent from other sports thats arguably even more true.A worldwide spectacle pulling in billions yet stilll we have '100k a year for 3 fights, beats my shitty job so fuck them' lol
Again what it comes down to most is if more money is spent on fighters the better the standard of fighters will be.Man shut up, I could understand 10/10 fighter saying he doesn't get paid enough, but the example you idiots use every time is "Waaah Ngannou is the baddest man waah, he deserves more than half a million per fight waaah", just shut up. You are crying, because another man who is a millionaire and makes more money than 99% of the world's population is not getting even more, it's just plain weird.
They are building new PIs every year and fighters keep coming out talking about how impressed they are with them. They are literally living there, getting fed for free, free physiotherapy, equipment, training partners. People just want to cry about % of revenue compared to other sports going to athletes, and use that as an excuse to whine about Dana. Then they'll point to a broke fighter who doesn't know how to manage his money properly and say stupid shit like 'a guy like him should be set for life'.Again what it comes down to most is if more money is spent on fighters the better the standard of fighters will be.
Thats why I think the UFC's "evolution" hype is often nonsense, it points to how much richer the sport has become compared to say 20 years ago but if most of that money is just going into the UFC's pockets then it doesn't automatically feed though to the talent base getting better.
Indeed I would say the UFC's business model might well be to create deliberate scarcity, a smaller number of really elite fighters is easier for them to mono[polise the sport. meanwhile you have large numbers of cheap fighters who will never reach that standard kept around to fill up cards.
Some very limited investment were they push fighters to give them cheap PR whilst generally spending as little as possible.They are building new PIs every year and fighters keep coming out talking about how impressed they are with them. They are literally living there, getting fed for free, free physiotherapy, equipment, training partners. People just want to cry about % of revenue compared to other sports going to athletes, and use that as an excuse to whine about Dana. Then they'll point to a broke fighter who doesn't know how to manage his money properly and say stupid shit like 'a guy like him should be set for life'.