The injury wasn't really accidental

[Katsushyro]

Wasn't deep and it was a standard escape. You can say it's legit but its akin to a knee injury from sprawling

Not the same at all…

 

[RayA]

What makes it weird is how the shoulder isn't the joint being directly attacked. It's like tearing your ACL carrying somebody trying to RNC you, or rolling your ankle stepping out of a knee bar

 

[bubbleboyjones]

Their only good fighter they produced is Brandon Scwaub

You forgot CM Punk

 

[flowoftruth]

yarear…doesn’t think it was a submission..

he's just trying to be nice for the sake of friendship

 

[Herwald]

I mean... kinda fluky, but it still happened due to Yair's actions. So, yeah, I think it's an earned win.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Not the same at all…

Sure it is, both are injuries causes by an attack that was defended and injured an area that wasn't targeted by the attack.

 

[Pechan]

Not even close to the same thing.

Explain

 

[Whippy McGee]

I'm a Yair fan.

That was an ass fight. Ortega has likely slipped out of that a thousand times and just had that ligament go at the worst time.

It did warm my heart that ABC got an absolute shit co-main and main event. Fuck them. lol

 

[J0N0]

Wasn't deep and it was a standard escape. You can say it's legit but its akin to a knee injury from sprawling

Sometimes someone throws a jab and it knocks the other guy out cuz their chin lets them down. If Brian's joints let him down then that sucks, but being physically resilient is part of the game.

 

[RiotWyatt]

Fuk, I missed everything. I finding a good stream and the fight ended, just from the descriptions, it sounds like Brian was getting touched then got injured from an escape which is basically a TKO?

It looked like an escape but, really, he "escaped" because his shoulder gave out to loosen Yair's grip.

 

[MillingMeSoftly]

Yair shouldn't have agreed to a rematch...

he was tooling him on the feet badly and basically ended the fight with a submission

 

[SeattleFightFan]

Legit to me here. Unfortunate as it doesn’t feel like a clean victory. wish it could e ended better.
But Brian was get lit up from the bell.

why not?

or do you just "wish" it had gone longer?

 

[Katsushyro]

Sure it is, both are injuries causes by an attack that was defended and injured an area that wasn't targeted by the attack.

A double is not used to cause injury, but to take down, a arm bar is used to injury the arm, targets the elbow but can verry well become a shoulder lock with a little adjustment.

 

[SamuraiBro]

‘Brian Ortega’s shoulder had a choice’

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Sometimes someone throws a jab and it knocks the other guy out cuz their chin lets them down. If Brian's joints let him down then that sucks, but being physically resilient is part of the game.

Sure. I'm not saying you cant say it isn't legit.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

People pull their arms out of loose arm bars like that 1000’s of times lol, that is a 1 in 10000 freak injury

Not a legit sub at all

 

[Coconutwater]

It looked like an escape but, really, he "escaped" because his shoulder gave out to loosen Yair's grip.

Just watched it, it's a TKO. Ortega defended a real threat of an armbar and basically got submitted trying to get out of it, IMO.

If that armbar wasn't tight and locked, Ortega would still be fighting. Another thing I noticed is Ortega looks really average when he strikes against a decent striker who is his height and reach, the speed only made it worse. I also believe that Yair earned that submission because he grabbed Ortega's leg to keep Ortega from lifting him up and keeping Brian's posture broken enough to keep him locked in and deep. That's a sub in my book.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

A double is not used to cause injury, but to take down, a arm bar is used to injury the arm, targets the elbow but can verry well become a shoulder lock with a little adjustment.

Doubles absolutely can cause damage.

When has a shoulder ever popped out in the ufc from an arm pull out to defend the arm bar from a stacked position? It wasnt like Mir v Williams

 

[Katsushyro]

People pull their arms out of loose arm bars like that 1000’s of times lol, that is a 1 in 10000 freak injury

Not a legit sub at all

People do the hitchhiker’s scape 1000 times, but one time they get stuck and yank too hard, they shoulders are gone, due to the sub. That’s the same

 

[Guy LeDouche]

why not?

or do you just "wish" it had gone longer?

Well I do wish it had gone longer, but I agree with the sub victory. Just don’t like to see fights end in injury.