Trump- Russia collusion megathread v7: still a NOTHINGBURGER edition

[computer fogie]

Sanders: "Trump weighed in on the statement, which is completely normal."

Libs: 'See, she said Trump oversaw six rough drafts, and then personally edited and released the final statement. Obstruction of Justical Collusion! Trump will get the death penalty for this!"

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The problem is that the statement was a lie.

Considering all the lying that they've done so far, who can believe her OR Trumps lawyer?

 

[Rational Poster]

Sanders: "Trump weighed in on the statement, which is completely normal."

Libs: 'See, she said Trump oversaw six rough drafts, and then personally edited and released the final statement. Obstruction of Justical Collusion! Trump will get the death penalty for this!"

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Trump-bot - "It's completely normal for the President to advise his son to lie on national television about the details of an ongoing investigation"

 

[HereticBD]

Oh well if Goebbles said he just weighed in (an admission of guilt despite the qualifier 'normal') then I guess we can all go home now.

No, the intelligent thing to do, is completely disregard the actual statement, act like she said something completely different, and continue to live in your fantasy land.

 

[Wally Brando]

It's annoying the games people play on here. I don't know what happened. I post here to help guide my searches. It's a big reason I generally ask questions Instead of making claims. How do you know Trump told Jr to tell a lie? Start there.

Bullshit. You're here to muddy the waters and distract from Trump's crime. I have an idea: research this shit before you discuss it so you can have an intelligent convo about it. Is this your only new source?

 

[Wally Brando]

No, the intelligent thing to do, is completely disregard the actual statement, act like she said something completely different, and continue to live in your fantasy land.

This is what Freudian psychologists would refer to as 'projection '. In common parlance today we call it gaslighting.

 

[HereticBD]

This is what Freudian psychologists would refer to as 'projection '. In common parlance today we call it gaslighting.

You sit here and say that Huckabee said something she didn't, while making up your own version of events, and you're talking about projection? LOL.

Oh' Wally.

 

[Wally Brando]

You sit here and say that Huckabee said something she didn't, while making up your own version of events, and you're talking about projection? LOL.

Oh' Wally.

I can tell that stung you.

Seriously though try and debate reality and not ...well whatever the fuck is going on in your head.

Feast on this:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ion-justice-george-w-bush-white-a7870171.html

Is a member of Bush's White House a diehard liberal living in an alternate reality? Let me know

 

[Wally Brando]

So giving somebody advice is the same thing as writing the statement? Proofreading it would be the same as writing it? I wouldn't ask so many questions if you could make a coherent thought

dic·tate
verb
ˈdikˌtāt,ˌdikˈtāt/

1. 1.
   lay down authoritatively; prescribe.
   "the tsar's attempts to dictate policy"
   synonyms: give orders to, order around/about, lord it over; More
   
   
2. 2.
   say or read aloud (words to be typed, written down, or recorded on tape).
   "I have four letters to dictate"
   So did Trump give input for a statement someone would later write down ? ?? I think he did by his own admission .
   

 

[HereticBD]

I can tell that stung you.

Sure, Wally. Try to understand the terms you use, before you use them.

Oh', and big deal on some ex-Bush staffer thinking this might, sort of, possibly might be something. That's some desperate shit.

 

[Quipling]

Do you have ANY evidence of a crime being committed? Facts that should lead to a charge?

Didn't we already go through this last thread?
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132129269/ - your post suggesting there is no evidence there were hacks or that russia was connected to them
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132130453/ - my post suggesting there were
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132131219/ - you again suggesting that there was no evidence russia was behind it
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132133967/ - my post listing evidence
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132136453/ - your post conceding defeat.

And then you flood this thread with a nearly identical set of questions.

Do you have evidence Trump dictated the statement? You can't just make things up and then claim they are also evidence

And here you're laughably claiming that you have no agenda, your questions are just to help guide your searches, and you don't know what happened.

It's annoying the games people play on here. I don't know what happened. I post here to help guide my searches. It's a big reason I generally ask questions Instead of making claims. How do you know Trump told Jr to tell a lie? Start there.

Who do you think you're fooling?

 

[Limbo Pete]

Didn't we already go through this last thread?
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132129269/ - your post suggesting there is no evidence there were hacks or that russia was connected to them
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132130453/ - my post suggesting there were
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132131219/ - you again suggesting that there was no evidence russia was behind it
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132133967/ - my post listing evidence
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132136453/ - your post conceding defeat.

And then you flood this thread with a nearly identical set of questions.




And here you're laughably claiming that you have no agenda, your questions are just to help guide your searches, and you don't know what happened.


Who do you think you're fooling?

 

[Buck Swope]

Besides all of this scenery, let's looks at the facts. Trump has business ties with Russia. Meetings with team Trump and Russian officials have been verified.

Leading up to the election all kinds of shit about Hillary and the DNC gets released but oddly nothing about the other side.

Has Trump signed the bill to sanction Russia yet?

 

[Pale Man In Black]

This is what Freudian psychologists would refer to as 'projection '. In common parlance today we call it gaslighting.

That's not what "gaslighting" is.
Gaslighting is what the media is doing to you.

 

[Wally Brando]

Sure, Wally. Try to understand the terms you use, before you use them.

Oh', and big deal on some ex-Bush staffer thinking this might, sort of, possibly might be something. That's some desperate shit.

Why are you so mad? It's just a forum debate.

Anyways we've established the facts and we diverge on our interpretation of their implications. Debate over?

 

[Wally Brando]

Besides all of this scenery, let's looks at the facts. Trump has business ties with Russia. Meetings with team Trump and Russian officials have been verified.

Leading up to the election all kinds of shit about Hillary and the DNC gets released but oddly nothing about the other side.

Has Trump signed the bill to sanction Russia yet?

He won't. Bets anyone? Meet me in da bet thread. Disclaimer: it will be unofficiafed so don't take that easy out now before you waste my time with jibber jabber. We'll leave the bet posted in the bet thread for posterity and future shaming.

 

[Wally Brando]

Didn't we already go through this last thread?
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132129269/ - your post suggesting there is no evidence there were hacks or that russia was connected to them
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132130453/ - my post suggesting there were
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132131219/ - you again suggesting that there was no evidence russia was behind it
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132133967/ - my post listing evidence
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132136453/ - your post conceding defeat.

And then you flood this thread with a nearly identical set of questions.




And here you're laughably claiming that you have no agenda, your questions are just to help guide your searches, and you don't know what happened.


Who do you think you're fooling?

 

[Striker Fox]

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Newly minted White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders flipped Russia conspiracy questions during Tuesday’s press briefing, pointing to a lack of evidence against the Trump Administration and a host of evidence against Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Sanders slammed media questions aimed at showing that there were any “misleading” actions by the Trump campaign or Trump Administration with regards to Russia.

“The thing I see misleading is a year’s worth of stories that have been fueling a false narrative about this Russia collusion. And a phony scandal based on anonymous sources. And, I think if we’re gonna talk about misleading, that’s the only thing misleading I see in this entire process.”

Sanders then accused the media of being focused on a meeting that Trump’s son Don Jr. took, which she characterized as having “no consequence.”

“The Democrats actually colluded with a foreign government like Ukraine,” she pushed back. “The Democrat-linked firm Fusion GPS actually took money from the Russian government while it created the phony dossier that’s been the basis for all of the Russia scandal fake news.”

“Look no further than the Clintons,” for a relationship with Russia, Sanders retorted as reporters attempted to interrupt her statements. She cited the $500,000 former President Bill Clinton accepted to give a speech to a Russian bank. She added that Russian President Vladimir Putin himself thanked Clinton for giving the speech.

She then cited the one-fifth of United States’ uranium that then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton allowed to be sold to a Russian firm. Sanders added that the firm’s investors included Clinton Foundation donors.

Evidence of Hillary Clinton’s involvement in selling U.S. uranium to Russian state atomic energy agency Uranium One during her time as Secretary of State is documented in Peter Schweizer’s book Clinton Cash. The book also referenced the New York Times story on the half a million paid to Bill Clinton for the Russian bank speech. An email released through Wikileaks may also be shedding new light on inquiries into links between Hillary Clinton’s opposition to the Magnitsky Act and Bill Clinton’s speech in Moscow.

“The Clinton campaign chairman’s brother lobbied against sanctions on Russia’s largest bank and failed to report it,” Sanders added.

Tony Podesta, the brother of Clinton presidential campaign chairman John Podesta, was paid $170,000 over six months in 2016 to represent Russia’s largest bank and lobby to end economic sanctions against Russia, according to the Daily Caller.

The Press Secretary said the media seemed “obsessed” with discussing Russia relations — and for that the press should look toward the Clintons.

“If you want to talk about somebody who’s actually been tough on Russia, look at President Trump,” she said before stating that Trump wants “more fracking, more coal, more energy, a stronger military, a stronger defense. Those things aren’t good for Russia.”

She accused the media of trying to “create a narrative that just doesn’t exist.”

 

[Wally Brando]

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Newly minted White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders flipped Russia conspiracy questions during Tuesday’s press briefing, pointing to a lack of evidence against the Trump Administration and a host of evidence against Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Sanders slammed media questions aimed at showing that there were any “misleading” actions by the Trump campaign or Trump Administration with regards to Russia.

“The thing I see misleading is a year’s worth of stories that have been fueling a false narrative about this Russia collusion. And a phony scandal based on anonymous sources. And, I think if we’re gonna talk about misleading, that’s the only thing misleading I see in this entire process.”

Sanders then accused the media of being focused on a meeting that Trump’s son Don Jr. took, which she characterized as having “no consequence.”

“The Democrats actually colluded with a foreign government like Ukraine,” she pushed back. “The Democrat-linked firm Fusion GPS actually took money from the Russian government while it created the phony dossier that’s been the basis for all of the Russia scandal fake news.”

“Look no further than the Clintons,” for a relationship with Russia, Sanders retorted as reporters attempted to interrupt her statements. She cited the $500,000 former President Bill Clinton accepted to give a speech to a Russian bank. She added that Russian President Vladimir Putin himself thanked Clinton for giving the speech.

She then cited the one-fifth of United States’ uranium that then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton allowed to be sold to a Russian firm. Sanders added that the firm’s investors included Clinton Foundation donors.

Evidence of Hillary Clinton’s involvement in selling U.S. uranium to Russian state atomic energy agency Uranium One during her time as Secretary of State is documented in Peter Schweizer’s book Clinton Cash. The book also referenced the New York Times story on the half a million paid to Bill Clinton for the Russian bank speech. An email released through Wikileaks may also be shedding new light on inquiries into links between Hillary Clinton’s opposition to the Magnitsky Act and Bill Clinton’s speech in Moscow.

“The Clinton campaign chairman’s brother lobbied against sanctions on Russia’s largest bank and failed to report it,” Sanders added.

Tony Podesta, the brother of Clinton presidential campaign chairman John Podesta, was paid $170,000 over six months in 2016 to represent Russia’s largest bank and lobby to end economic sanctions against Russia, according to the Daily Caller.

The Press Secretary said the media seemed “obsessed” with discussing Russia relations — and for that the press should look toward the Clintons.

“If you want to talk about somebody who’s actually been tough on Russia, look at President Trump,” she said before stating that Trump wants “more fracking, more coal, more energy, a stronger military, a stronger defense. Those things aren’t good for Russia.”

She accused the media of trying to “create a narrative that just doesn’t exist.”

Lol yeah if only we could get crooked Hilary out of the White House America's national crisis would be over. Oh wait.

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

Bullshit. You're here to muddy the waters and distract from Trump's crime. I have an idea: research this shit before you discuss it so you can have an intelligent convo about it. Is this your only new source?

Now you presume to know my true intentions. Typically when people ask questions they are seeking info.

The other reason I ask questions is to get you to be specific. You guys make doomsday style predictions and mock people skeptical of this whole Russia narrative, all while making very shallow claims that hold no water.

So what IF Trump wrote the thing directly? Is there a law that would have broken? Are you moving the goalposts down to crying over every lie told?

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

Didn't we already go through this last thread?
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132129269/ - your post suggesting there is no evidence there were hacks or that russia was connected to them
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132130453/ - my post suggesting there were
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132131219/ - you again suggesting that there was no evidence russia was behind it
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132133967/ - my post listing evidence
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/132136453/ - your post conceding defeat.

And then you flood this thread with a nearly identical set of questions.




And here you're laughably claiming that you have no agenda, your questions are just to help guide your searches, and you don't know what happened.


Who do you think you're fooling?

Your own post proved my point... I'm here to ask questions