Trump Strips Former CIA Chief John Brennan of Security Clearance

Is Trump Stripping Security Clearances a good or bad thing?

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JSnake said:
Because true authoritarians are always insecure of their power, are ruthless in their methods to retain it and would simply not allow their enemies the time to plan and organize their defenses or attack that would threaten it... if anything Brennan has acted more characteristic of an authoritarian because he never even gave Trump due process before accusing him of being a Russian agent, treated him as guilty before proven innocent and advocated to remove him from office immediately.

And here we are more than a year later, with still no concrete evidence to this grand claim. While the accusations against Brennan, being in charge of Spygate, have only came out recently. We'll have to wait and see if they are able to produce the evidence for that.
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Interesting, the no true Scotsman applied to Trump's authoritarian streak.
 
HomerThompson said:
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That's pretty rich coming from a former CIA chief. Or are we now going to pretend that the CIA is an institution of venerable paladins that would dare not besmirch their honor with blaggardation and skullduggery? Granted, they are "our" rogues.
 
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EradiatedHaggis said:
If there is a chance he is behind an investigation that was knowingly based on a dossier that was never verified...a lot.
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If there is a chance or if there is evidence? Based on the documents that have been released this dossier issue is just a red herring.
 
Rematch said:
That's pretty rich coming from a former CIA chief. Or are we now going to pretend that the CIA is an institution of venerable paladins that would dare not besmirch their honor with blaggardation and skullduggery? Granted, they are "our" blackguards and rogues.
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Care to actually comment on the topic in a meaningful way, or are you just here to help carry Trump's water?
 
HomerThompson said:
Care to actually comment on the topic in a meaningful way, or are you just here to help carry Trump's water?
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Just commenting on the irony of a former CIA chief's commentary on "underhanded" behavior. One does not need to be partisan to comment on such an obvious thing. However, it does take a certain level of partisanship to have objection to it. So who exactly is carrying whose water?
 
Rematch said:
That's pretty rich coming from a former CIA chief. Or are we now going to pretend that the CIA is an institution of venerable paladins that would dare not besmirch their honor with blaggardation and skullduggery? Granted, they are "our" rogues.
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You gotta hand it to 'em for sheer gall.
 
EradiatedHaggis said:
You dont go from getting a dossier to having a federal investigation without CONFIRMING sources and information...if they had, they would have uncovered it was created by a company getting its money to do it from the DNC using information from a former foreign spy that couldnt not have even gotten that information in the first place and being pushed by a guy, dating someone AT THAT COMPANY that he was telling that "They would stop" Trump.

Anyone, with any actual credibility in a intelligence agency would have stopped that BS in its tracks.
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You drank the kool-aid.
 
A Very Serious Cat said:
Would this cover events since the employee has left? Like do they always get to know why a going on ornupdates on things they were involved in?



Very insightful
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The news made it sound like the oldies could provide insight on unfinished business type shit, not necessarily getting updates like finger on the pulse of current shit 24/7.
 
Rematch said:
Just commenting on the irony of a former CIA chief's commentary on "underhanded" behavior. One does not need to be partisan to comment on such an obvious thing. However, it does take a certain level of partisanship to have objection to it. So who exactly is carrying whose water?
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I'll take that as a no for commentary, and a yes to water carrying.

Thanks.
 
EradiatedHaggis said:
Quoting the media will not help your case. The media has been pushing this story for so long with no evidence for a reason...so people wont start talking about how there is proof they colluded with the DNC against Sanders to undermine our democracy...and only fools still follow the media. This is the perfect story for them, fake collusion to cover up real collusion.

But no really, you go on and continue to think that Russia, is going to collude with the poster boy for Capitalism against a person that pushes Socialism and did nothing against them for invading Crimea...
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Are you just going to ignore the fact that a Russian contacted Trump Jr, to offer collusion from their government, and that offer was accepted? Also the timeline of Trump's public overtures to Russia and those known communications and meetings? Trump might not be guilty, even though he's acting like it, but there surely deserves to be an investigation. Trump is the one at fault here for attempting to sabotage it.
 
EradiatedHaggis said:
...the conspiracy theories are on the side with NO PROOF...1 1/2 years...still no proof...a federal investigation started with NO PROOF and you are saying you are not convinced in those calling foul! Must be a leftist.
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You have no proof. I'm waiting to see what Mueller presents once the investigation is over.
 
Farmer Br0wn said:
I just started a thread moments after this one.

One possibility that no one is reporting (yet):

John Brennan can't be trusted.
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HomerThompson said:
In what way?

Please be specific.
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He called the president a traitor without any justifiable basis. That goes well beyond freedom of speech. At the very least - if you don’t revoke the security clearance of such a person, you will be called weak.

Brennan made his bed - now he has to lie in it.
 
It seems that it was Rand Paul who may have gotten the whole thing started:





I don't know much about this Brennan character other than the fact that he was one of the architects of America's drone program. Generally I wouldn't trust a CIA director worth shit, but this could also be a case of Trump over-reacting to Brennan calling him "treasonous".

It was a pretty bold claim from an ex-CIA director but mouthing off on Twitter alone, shouldn't get your clearance revoked. I think we have to give people more leeway during the age of social media. People lose sight of what they are saying when they aren't doing it in a face-to-face interaction.

Just imagine the scenario of an intelligence chief calling the reigning president a traitor to their face. Hard to imagine it happening.
 
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