UFC Co Promotion

[RicardinhoPT]

Maybe with a boxing promoter. If MMA, the organizations had to be equal in standings and at the moment, the UFC has nothing to gain from going down that path

 

[Prologue]

Ultimate Fight Circus would be the GOAT MMA co-promotion.

Stipe vs Jones in a phone booth. Gaethje vs Barbosa in a kicks only match. Ngannou vs Yan and Aljo. Can they squash the beef and work together to take on Ford Escort Energy Ngannou? Only one way to find out.

 

[BoxerMaurits]

DO you think this could be a possibility in the future? I do.

UFC of today seems more open to trying things out. I dont think theyd split a card or anything but I could see them working with other promotions and possibly feature fighters loaned to them from other promotions the same way that UFC loaned fighters to PRIDE and see what happens.

Glory Kickboxing is looking to co-promote with other organisations aswell.
This year Glory already partnered with organisations in Enfusion and RISE, putting on some events together with them and there were some co-promoted ‘Rivals’ fights on regular Glory events between Glory and Enfusion/RISE fighters aswell.

Not likely to happen, but having Glory/UFC cross-over fights would be cool and interesting!

 

[BoxerMaurits]

Glory Kickboxing is looking to co-promote with other organisations aswell.
This year Glory already partnered with organisations in Enfusion and RISE, putting on some events together with them and there were some co-promoted ‘Rivals’ fights on regular Glory events between Glory and Enfusion/RISE fighters aswell.

Not likely to happen, but having Glory/UFC cross-over fights would be cool and interesting!

https://www.glorykickboxing.com/new...y-rivals:8aaa004e-c2f9-423d-9e4c-6d8470224df7

GLORY, the world’s premier kickboxing organization, announced today the launch of GLORY Rivals, a new series of events launching in 2022. GLORY Rivals is a global initiative to showcase the world’s best kickboxers and strikers in partnership with other leading fighting organizations.

“It’s time for the best fighters in the world to fight, regardless of organization,” says GLORY Executive Vice-Chairman Scott Rudmann. “At GLORY, we’re confident we have the best talent and we’re willing to prove it. We welcome the challenge of any MMA, boxing, or kickboxing organization that believes their fighters can compete against ours. It’s time for a change in the combat landscape and we’re excited to lead the way.”

GLORY Rivals allows the world’s top fight organizations to showcase their best fighters in new markets and create matchups that fans have been calling for. The Series will kick off with Enfusion in Europe and RISE in Japan.

“We’re excited to partner with both organizations and create new events together,” added Rudmann.“Many of GLORY’s top fighters debuted with Enfusion, including Middleweight Champion Donovan Wisse and top contenders Levi Rigters, Mohammed Jaraya, and Luis Tavares. RISE is the leading kickboxing organization in Japan and features some of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world, including Tenshin.”

In addition to the Enfusion and RISE partnerships, GLORY is exploring additional global challengers, including organizations in the United States and Brazil.

Full fight details for GLORY Rivals will be released shortly.

 

[You Will Vote For Dreyga]

DO you think this could be a possibility in the future? I do.

UFC of today seems more open to trying things out. I dont think theyd split a card or anything but I could see them working with other promotions and possibly feature fighters loaned to them from other promotions the same way that UFC loaned fighters to PRIDE and see what happens.

Why would they?

No other promotion is big enough for cross promotion to be profitable

No fighter outside the UFC is popular enough to justify the effort

 

[HHJ]

Glory Kickboxing is looking to co-promote with other organisations aswell.
This year Glory already partnered with organisations in Enfusion and RISE, putting on some events together with them and there were some co-promoted ‘Rivals’ fights on regular Glory events between Glory and Enfusion/RISE fighters aswell.

Not likely to happen, but having Glory/UFC cross-over fights would be cool and interesting!

Yeah it def would be.

 

[BoxerMaurits]

Yeah it def would be.

And btw Glory Kickboxing Executive Vice-Chairman ‘Scott Rudmann’ expressed his interest in cross-fights with boxing and MMA promotions.

 

[mallen7272]

Zero chance

 

[HavokHarmon]

PRIDE was bigger than UFC and they still allowed several of their fighters to compete and were open to more. Also they co promoted with K1,and did sometimes have guys from other promotions come on

I think his experience with Pride really soured Dana to the whole idea tbh. He gave Chuck for major tournament, he and Randy both commentated for them at different times to promote super fights that never materialized. I really think Dana getting nothing in return after giving so much made him close off in that area.

 

[HHJ]

I think his experience with Pride really soured Dana to the whole idea tbh. He gave Chuck for major tournament, he and Randy both commentated for them at different times to promote super fights that never materialized. I really think Dana getting nothing in return after giving so much made him close off in that area.

Yeah but now they are in control,yknow? Plus its not all Dana's decision.

 

[DestinedAussie]

DO you think this could be a possibility in the future? I do.

UFC of today seems more open to trying things out. I dont think theyd split a card or anything but I could see them working with other promotions and possibly feature fighters loaned to them from other promotions the same way that UFC loaned fighters to PRIDE and see what happens.

I doubt in the MMA world they co-promote. They wouldn't co-promote with Fedor and it was the only thing which stopped him appearing in UFC.

I do however think loaning fighters might be something that is possible. UFC already loan their fighters out to other orgs (they call them development deals where UFC signs them, supports them while they get regional experience). I don't know about it happening in the other direction but I could see it happening with a clause if they win the UFC can buy them out of the their other contract for x dollars.

 

[HHJ]

I doubt in the MMA world they co-promote. They wouldn't co-promote with Fedor and it was the only thing which stopped him appearing in UFC.

I do however think loaning fighters might be something that is possible. UFC already loan their fighters out to other orgs (they call them development deals where UFC signs them, supports them while they get regional experience). I don't know about it happening in the other direction but I could see it happening with a clause if they win the UFC can buy them out of the their other contract for x dollars.

Right,I think if it happened it would start out like that. Also UFC,and MMA is different than when Fedor wanted to co-promote.

 

[DestinedAussie]

Right,I think if it happened it would start out like that. Also UFC,and MMA is different than when Fedor wanted to co-promote.

But why does the UFC need to co-promote. They are bigger than any promoter in MMA and would just be giving a leg up to them. I think they would allow the promoter they were signed to get a cut, but not literally co-promote. There isn't that much benefit in sports to co-promotion, it always better if one takes the lead and other sits in the background.

 

[HuskySamoan]

UFC is more likely to poach another promotion’s talent than to cooperate with them…

UFC doesn't seem to care that much about talent, the organization is watered down with a lot of relative bad fighters, so much so you're seeing a pretty steady trend of journeyman level fighters in top 10 positions and even fighting for titles.

Sometimes I feel like the sport moves too slowly for an organization to reach a point where it can compete with the UFC on a promotional and viewership scale but when it comes to talent? Well just look at Pride, WEC and Strikeforce those organizations had loads of elite talent and Bellator probably does too. They just can't cultivate and market it into a legitimate, exciting organization it seems impossible almost.

 

[HHJ]

UFC doesn't seem to care that much about talent, the organization is watered down with a lot of relative bad fighters, so much so you're seeing a pretty steady trend of journeyman level fighters in top 10 positions and even fighting for titles.

Sometimes I feel like the sport moves too slowly for an organization to reach a point where it can compete with the UFC on a promotional and viewership scale but when it comes to talent? Well just look at Pride, WEC and Strikeforce those organizations had loads of elite talent and Bellator probably does too. They just can't cultivate and market it into a legitimate, exciting organization it seems impossible almost.

UFC has too much of a head start.

 

[HHJ]

But why does the UFC need to co-promote. They are bigger than any promoter in MMA and would just be giving a leg up to them. I think they would allow the promoter they were signed to get a cut, but not literally co-promote. There isn't that much benefit in sports to co-promotion, it always better if one takes the lead and other sits in the background.

Im not saying they should straight up split a card,but I can see that they might have fighters from another org they might be interested in just bringing in,or temporarily exchange talent,just to see. I remember they loaned Mirko to Dream for a little while,although I dont recall all the details there.

 

[El Fernas]

No chance, the UFC is so much bigger than the competitors, they would need a Conor Mcgregor type of fighter for the UFC to accept, and even then...they would just wait to sign him, the other company would need their own PPV model to begin with so a big name, or big names stay with them over the UFC.

Also having promotion titles instead of regular titles like boxing is a huge problem to begin with, is Dana allowing Bellator champ to fight for his belt and leave with it? It cant happen, only a Floyd vs Mcgregor kinf of fight could, not MMA.

 

[DestinedAussie]

Im not saying they should straight up split a card,but I can see that they might have fighters from another org they might be interested in just bringing in,or temporarily exchange talent,just to see. I remember they loaned Mirko to Dream for a little while,although I dont recall all the details there.

Yeah loaning is always possible and that is what happened in the pride days. They were also pretty different markets.

 

[HuskySamoan]

UFC has too much of a head start.

Eh, I think with the right vision, capital and promotion a division could rival the UFC with an amazingly executed plan. And when I say capital, I me like a Sheikh who's willing to throw tens of millions if not hundreds. Will it happen? Probably not, but I think it could.

Look at Bellator having signed guys like Shabliy, Barnaoui and Usman Nurmagomedov just at LW. They have probably the best MW prospect in MMA in Dalton Rosta. What if they had good promotion, a better structure, deeper talent pools and the capital to outpay the UFC etc. As part of like a 5 year plan before planning to start making a profit. What if they got Cable Stevenson and Bo Nickal? What if they outbid the UFC for N'Gannou, signed Nate Diaz and used him as a launching pad for new stars too. What if they put more focus into central Asian MMA and the Caucasuses? What if they bought out or merged with ONE for the east and southeast Asian markets?

It would take a lot but I can dream.

 

[BabyBlue_Bomber]

UFC doesn't seem to care that much about talent, the organization is watered down with a lot of relative bad fighters, so much so you're seeing a pretty steady trend of journeyman level fighters in top 10 positions and even fighting for titles.

Sometimes I feel like the sport moves too slowly for an organization to reach a point where it can compete with the UFC on a promotional and viewership scale but when it comes to talent? Well just look at Pride, WEC and Strikeforce those organizations had loads of elite talent and Bellator probably does too. They just can't cultivate and market it into a legitimate, exciting organization it seems impossible almost.

Definitely.

Putting butts in seats and selling PPVs will always be the UFC’s top priority.