UFC Fight Night: Costa vs. Vettori

longway said:
That's not torture. watching wmma is though.
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WMMA is like golf or baseball: Slow moving and not much action but put it on in the background for something relaxing to watch while doing other things and then pay attention if/when something amazing happens and they show the replay.
 
Patrick pulled out like a week ago or something, i found out from twitter comments all mocking him pussy after what he pulled in the first bout too aljo school.
 
Kamais_Ookin said:
Patrick pulled out like a week ago or something, i found out from twitter comments all mocking him pussy after what he pulled in the first bout too aljo school.
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Oh damn, was gonna be an easy win for Jones.
 
I’m waiting to see if Vettori can tire Costa out and take control of the fight after a couple of rounds. I think it would be smart to not get into exchanges early with Costa and drag the fight on a bit.

However, starting slow could always lead to a terrible start as Costa will likely keep pressuring, pushing the pace with body kicks and punch combos against the cage. That’s pretty much he has done to every single opponent, not including Adesanya.

We haven’t seen much of Costa’s grappling, but he did get up and scramble fairly well in Romero fight IIRC. What have seemingly been Costa’s ”weaknesses” have been a crisp jab (Hall) and fast leg kicks (Adesanya). Adesanya obviously offers other threats and rushing him has not worked well (Whittaker :(); that was a terrible showing for Costa but I have a lot of confidence that he bounces back with a good performance here, win or lose.

Expecting a close and a good fight.
 
Vettori's Got a better jab that will be there for him,Costa's Got better hooks when pressing oponnent against the cage.Both have solid middle kicks to the body,Vettori is a better grappler but he ain't some great tehnician more of a strength/pressure grappler so doubt he gets Costa down at least at the begining.He''ll have the cardio adventage which makes him the reasonable favorite.Hard to bet,but Costa taking a year off and that hard lose could of made him a better fighter,more motivated.Since Marvin is hard to get out,taking Costa DEC at 6.00 and hoping he doesn't gas to hard might be the best bet.
 
I love vettori round 4 and 5 props. I think all the grappling exchanges/cage pushing from vettori and absorbing all of costa's offense in first half with his titanium head will gas him out badly and then he's ripe for the taking. Only way I see this going the distance is if izzy stole costa's soul and he doesn't fight the way he always has up to this point which is super aggro high volume, and thus conserves enough energy to go the distance but loses on cards.

I will say though costa has pretty nice body kicks and despite thinking he can't ko vettori with head shots, you never know if that money body shot lands just right, but other than that I can't see him finishing vettori.
 
Spath said:
I’m waiting to see if Vettori can tire Costa out and take control of the fight after a couple of rounds. I think it would be smart to not get into exchanges early with Costa and drag the fight on a bit.

that was a terrible showing for Costa but I have a lot of confidence that he bounces back with a good performance here, win or lose.
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Bakayoko said:
VHard to bet,but Costa taking a year off and that hard lose could of made him a better fighter,more motivated.
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I think you guys are putting a lot of misplaced faith in someone that thought it was a good idea to publicly blame his shameful performance against Adesanya on a bottle of wine 2 months out of the fight instead of being lowbrow and quietly focusing on fixing the holes in his game. I don't expect to see much progress at all, I think he's already reached his ceiling. Costa has gotten as far as he has through abusing his physicality but I don't see much upside anywhere else, his skillset and craftsmanship is very shallow-which was exposed in his fight against Adesanya.
 
Bakayoko said:
Vettori's Got a better jab that will be there for him,Costa's Got better hooks when pressing oponnent against the cage.Both have solid middle kicks to the body,Vettori is a better grappler but he ain't some great tehnician more of a strength/pressure grappler so doubt he gets Costa down at least at the begining.He''ll have the cardio adventage which makes him the reasonable favorite.Hard to bet,but Costa taking a year off and that hard lose could of made him a better fighter,more motivated.Since Marvin is hard to get out,taking Costa DEC at 6.00 and hoping he doesn't gas to hard might be the best bet.
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Costa always seems to take a year off between fights. He's fought once a year the last four years.
 
Joon Cha said:
I think you guys are putting a lot of misplaced faith in someone that thought it was a good idea to publicly blame his shameful performance against Adesanya on a bottle of wine 2 months out of the fight instead of being lowbrow and quietly focusing on fixing the holes in his game. I don't expect to see much progress at all, I think he's already reached his ceiling. Costa has gotten as far as he has through abusing his physicality but I don't see much upside anywhere else, his skillset and craftsmanship is very shallow-which was exposed in his fight against Adesanya.
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I don’t know why you quoted me and talk about him drinking wine and that’s why he didn’t perform… I never said that and I wouldn’t believe that to be the case.

That was a horrible performance, I can’t and won’t argue otherwise. However, I don’t agree with you on Costa having very shallow skill-set or that he’s not a quality fighter. I say he is and his fights before, Romero fight for example, prove that.

This is why we are here; To talk about fights and fighters, who sides with who and why. I expect a quality fight and the winner is one step closer to being a title contender again. We’ll see!
 
Joon Cha said:
I think you guys are putting a lot of misplaced faith in someone that thought it was a good idea to publicly blame his shameful performance against Adesanya on a bottle of wine 2 months out of the fight instead of being lowbrow and quietly focusing on fixing the holes in his game. I don't expect to see much progress at all, I think he's already reached his ceiling. Costa has gotten as far as he has through abusing his physicality but I don't see much upside anywhere else, his skillset and craftsmanship is very shallow-which was exposed in his fight against Adesanya.
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I ain' putting no faith in eather Costa or Vettori,the lines are ok,just was brief analyzing them and saying that Costa DEC line is the only that has value at 6.Costa is limited and got to a title shot by favorable match ups,but Izzy is actually he's nightmare match up,he'll never win against a tehnical counterstriker like that,so maybe he just went from being overestimated to being underestimated.Vettori ain't a world beater.Btw I thought all the time the wine excuse was trolling,wtf
 
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Broe. said:
costa is still mentally coping with losing his hair. As far as this fight goes, if Vettori can survive the first 2 rounds he should take over easily after.
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Marvin's got a solid chin (probably because there's not much of a brain to rattle around in there), so I think he'll get through it.
 
2c on this card:

Souza/Markos: Dog or pass here. Souza is always a fade for me. Randas got some things going for her and she has been facing absolute killers. She's got the cardio, durability, and aggression advantage. Randa does make bonehead mistakes when she gets a bit over aggressive, not just in her last fight either. Following Dern to the ground, having good takedown defence until she gets mad and the opponent easily level changes under her. Her boxing is a bit underrated. Souza has a nice body and leg kick. She has bad optics, backs up against the cage, looks like she hates pressure and being hit. Not sure if there is much value left and could be slopy but yea.

Molina/Lacerda: I like both of these guys, a shame there is not more tape on Lacerda. In his more recent fights I was impressed with his dynamic striking and kicks. Throws wheel kicks like nothing and seems very athletic. Has a Brown Belt in Jits and aggressive GNP. I can't play Molina at these odds because he starts very slow and im not sure about his takedown defence. Just 2 fights ago, Porter on the regionals had him on the ground all first round and had his back too. Molina most likley wins this if it goes long, but who knows, maybe Lacerda can do it for all 3. He seems like a good talent that hasn't been tested yet and Molinas competition level is not amazing either. Might sprinkle the under here at plus money covering early or late finish if Lacerda slows down and Molina keeps piling on the pressure.

Herbert/Worthy: Herbert should spark Worthy early. Paper chin V some of the quickest hands in the division. Herbert has 2 losses in the UFC but he was lighting up both opponents on the feet. Worthy can also crack and Herbert is also chinny, so the unders are safe plays. Keeping it simple.

Staropoli/Pickett: Taped this fight last week, odds are insane. Low level fight, not sure how anyone can play Stapololi at those odds with the massive hole in his defensive wrestling. Pickett also has an 8.5' reach advantage and is a big MW who will use his wrestling occasionally. I don't know if I can hit him because his game is so average, never lets his hands go while Staopoli is opposite with constant volume and kicks. Then again when he does let them go he has power. Might sprinkle a tiny bit just so I'm not regretting it since Pickett has the size, reach and wrestling advantage. Otherwise, the overs have potential, specially if Pickett wrestles.

Ricci/Oliveira: Ricci should close the distance and smother her on the ground. She's small but solid, has a bit of pop on her punches too when she blitzes in. Nothing I really like about Olivera, she's a can crusher. Ricci has good control on top, a nice armbar she goes for from mount. Otherwise, she is constantly GNPing her opponents while on top. Ricci finish has potential if you dont want to lay the wood on women's MMA.

Nick/Ike: This is like father V son lol. Two stiff and hittable brawlers with good chins. Nick seems like the more natural LHW, and has some grappling but his takedowns suck. He zombied Camur to a split last fight, if he comes out with that game plan against Ike it's anyone's fight. Ike is like the opposite of a zombie, you can kill him anywhere but the head. Gets hurt to the body and legs constantly but has a brick head skull. I dont like anything here other than a lil sprinkle on Ike as odds are probably wide on such a low-level fight.

JessyJ/Edwards: Dog or pass here too. I remember liking Jessy because she was very technical and strong, unlike other female fighters. Taping her against didn't make her live up to those expectations. Didn't realize how much stronger Pennie looked against her in their fight. Also, that was a clear 30-27 where Jessy got schooled in the standup. Edwards is a natural BW who I bet in debut as a dog then faded hard against Rosa. She has average TDD that Jessy could potentially exploit but she has some funky scrambles and an active guard. Rosa made her look like she was a turtle off her back but even she got hit with that flexible reversal from the bottom mount. Edwards has hit on regionals as well. She showed heart in that fight and even busted the inside of Rosas mouth with a nice combination. Jessy will have to neutralize her for 3 rounds but I think Edwards is more dynamic and dangerous wherever the fight goes, as long as she stays aggressive and doesn't do too much stupid shit.

Costa/Vettori: Man this is my dream fight. Two blockheads meeting in the middle with the same game plan. Tough fight to bet on, Costa is not getting the respect he deserves because he got cucked by Isreal. Vettori is going to give him the fight he wants, he's a human punching bag but is super durable and doesn't stop coming forward. He doesn't have the power or athletism of someone like Romero to constantly hurt Costa. Vettori does have improved boxing though il give him that, nice straight left and pull counters. Costa will be working that body both with hooks and his body kick which he rips at 100%. That could even out the cardio a bit, even though I don't think Vettori has the clear-cut cardio advantage. Costas output and pressure is insane, he throws everything at 100%. Anyone that does that with that much muscle on his frame has great cardio. At these odds, it's a pass. Was eyeing the over but doesn't sit well with me even though I think both will come out with a bit of respect early. I am just going to sit back and enjoy this one, and potentially live bet after a few rounds.
 
BigSteve said:
2c on this card:

Costa/Vettori: Man this is my dream fight. Two blockheads meeting in the middle with the same game plan. Tough fight to bet on, Costa is not getting the respect he deserves because he got cucked by Isreal. Vettori is going to give him the fight he wants, he's a human punching bag but is super durable and doesn't stop coming forward. He doesn't have the power or athletism of someone like Romero to constantly hurt Costa. Vettori does have improved boxing though il give him that, nice straight left and pull counters. Costa will be working that body both with hooks and his body kick which he rips at 100%. That could even out the cardio a bit, even though I don't think Vettori has the clear-cut cardio advantage. Costas output and pressure is insane, he throws everything at 100%. Anyone that does that with that much muscle on his frame has great cardio. At these odds, it's a pass. Was eyeing the over but doesn't sit well with me even though I think both will come out with a bit of respect early. I am just going to sit back and enjoy this one, and potentially live bet after a few rounds.
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yeah, people saying that costa got bad cardio must be blind... Dude fight like an absolute killer with power and volume.
 
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