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The first time ever??? That is sad poor DJ
It's not sad at all. Better late than never.
The first time ever??? That is sad poor DJ
Anyone who calls him that is being silly imo, but he is very good.
It's not. And no, I'm not moving the goalpost. I'm discussing the exact same thing. These things take time. It took years and years before Anderson Silva finally caught on with the mainstream.
Yes it is and yes you are.
Projection is not the same thing as current value.
The current value is what someone is willing to pay for it right now. People can *project* the value of something in the future based on XYZ. But it doesn't become real until people pay for it in the future.
And again, what *specifically* is going to change the trend of Mighty Mouse's buys/viewership/etc? Be specific.
Except it's not.
Bellator didn't sign Gegard Mousasi because they have tangible evidence of his monetary value. Yes, potential is a factor. The fact that Mighty Mouse hasn't caught on with audiences (yet) doesn't mean anything. It takes time.
And again, what *specifically* is going to change the trend of Mighty Mouse's buys/viewership/etc? Be specific.
You don't seem to understand the difference between value at a point in time and projection based on your posting.
If you can't come up with any answers on your own, then I obviously can't help you. You can look at Anderson's career trajectory and find your answer. Floyd Mayweather spent a decade fighting in relative obscurity and didn't become a household name until late in his career. The same can happen with any MMA fighter.
No one claims a person's (or whatever it is) value is stable over time. What in the world would be the point of forecasting if that was the case?
You are erecting a strawman to knock it down.
This is what you said:
"The UFC has done enough testing and promotion of Mighty Mouse that there would be meaningful movement already if the ceiling was as high as you are implying."
You were talking out of your ass. You don't determine what constitutes 'enough' testing and promotion. That's the UFC's job. They're the ones with the access to the numbers, analytics, and trends. All fighters are not alike. They don't catch on with the public at the same rate.
MM is actually popular outside of the troll cave that is Sherdog.
I work in a highly analytic field, and while I don't know enough to know the exact margins, I certainly know enough to know he isn't going to see a *magnitude* of increase to the degree you are implying.
There is an issue with UFC's ability to get their fighters out there to potential demographics. Tyron has a point in UFC missing his market. They're marketing is extremely limited, as is who they reach.
DJ is the best fighter in the world. He's also a regular man with a family, and a gamer. UFC has no idea what to do with any of that, just like they have no idea what to do with anyone else.
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No, you don't. This sport is too volatile and unpredictable. Conor McGregor went from a nobody fighting on a Fuel TV card to a major star in a span of just a few fights. That's how fast things can change. Kevin Lee is a good example. Nobody knew who Kevin Lee was until he started trolling and had the incident with Michael Chiesa. He went from a nobody to a somebody in an instant. You don't know what Mighty Mouse is going to do or who Mighty Mouse is going to fight next. That's going to determine how much his popularity increases.
I believe you're wrong. It's not that people aren't willing to pay, it's that there are easy to find free alternatives if you know what you're doing. And, in MM case especially, younger fans (who watch twitch and go on reddit and shit) who are newer to the sport and don't know of a time where FlW didn't exist are knowledgeable and acclimated enough to have access to that free option.Sherdog is a tiny, tiny percentage of the market for MMA.
And besides, it's trivial to start a thread. The best indicator of value for X is how much someone is willing to pay for X. And people simply aren't parting with their money for Mighty Mouse.
The UFC is the promoter. It is their job to promote the fucking fighter. It this their job to make people interested in the fighter. And it is their job to get people to either pay to go to the events and watch the fighters or pay to watch them on PPV. And for doing this, they get the overwhelming majority of the revenue from the fights and their broadcast.
The UFC is shitty at promoting-period.
How about we make an account bet that swings on the basis of *demonstrated* preferences regarding Mighty Mouse's popularity?
He's popular on twitch
faber is a midget but he's loved and grew his star power by not taking bums to decisions or waiting until it was totally safe and the crowd was asleep from boredom to go for an exciting finish.
This isn't a post on goat or rankings or skill level.
Fans are clear what they want to see; they want excitement and charisma.
Rousey 1 rd demolitions
Conor's wars w Diaz and explosive ko's
Gsp's marquee 'it' factor ( his fights weren't exciting but he had some type of appeal that for some reason when he fought made people feel like they were walking onto an exotic car dealership or something.
Nick Diaz attitude
Fedor, jones, Andersons destructions of elite fighters and sense of invincibility
Mm uses a safety first style until virtually all risk is removed then he goes for the finish. There's like, no excitement in his fights for the average paying fan.
No 'war' aspect that Nate Diaz, gaetche, Conor, fedor, and others bring to the table when they fight.
The only thing worse than watching a 5'2" man fight is watching his fight safe, in addition to watching him fight safe against a Ray Borg caliber fighter for 4.5 Rds.
It's not UFC fault that mm lacks the fighting style, charisma, or marquee factor of other fighters. He could start helping himself by going out there and violently destroying Ray Borg within two Rds, like Conor does to fighters 39947473
Times better than Ray Borg, in 1/10th the time.
What does mm expect w his performances against Tim Elliot, Ray Borg and Wilson reis, when other fighters are giving us wars fought at just as high a skill level against better opponents. No amount of promotion is going to salvage or make us care about his performance against Tim Elliot or Rds 1-4 vs Borg.