Why do restaurant wait staff deserve such high pay?

BEER said:
I've never worked in Vegas but I've worked in casual fine dining, and it just doesn't happen.

The justification is that BOH is paid "more", despite servers making significantly more money. The girls would often talk about how much money they made (300-400 a night, for 6 hour dinner service). They made ridiculous money. But my 15 dollars an hour was "more" money than their hourly, so we didn't see a dime from FOH.
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bussers and runners sure as hell arent making $15 an hour. I believe they made minimum wage. at the end of the night though, they would walk with a pretty good chunk of change. i didnt mind paying them but it pissed me off a lot of times having to tip the bartender. on a busy friday night, ok, but on a standard lunch shift, alcohol sales are slow.
 
JSN said:
the vast majority of the population can't be a waittard? Are you seriously serious?
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lol I'm not going to even engage in your hyper aggression and retardation. you've clearly never done it and/or haven't ever worked in a highly popular place. waiting tables in a busy restaurant can be physically and mentally exhausting. being a janitor is not. that's why being a waiter pays decent money boyo. carry on with your phaggotry.
 
JSN said:
the vast majority of the population can't be a waittard? Are you seriously serious?
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50% of the population would quit after a shift or two. 40% of the rest wouldnt have the people skills to deal with the public.

i believe most of you guys are just trolling with this stuff because you see how worked up servers get. most of you saying anyone could do it are the same ones saying fuck tipping them. so how long are you gonna last when a table runs you to death and gives you a $2 tip on a $50 tab when you make $2.00 an hour? perhaps the hardest part of the jab is smiling and telling customers to have a great day when you really want to tell them to fuck off. but apparently most of you guys seem to think the asshole manager would be just fine when you do that.

when i was 17 or so i worked at an O'Charleys. i had a brutal table who was there for a free meal. from the moment they sat they complained. oredered a bunch of expensive shit and kept complaining. asked to see the manager who i had already warned about them and refused to pay. of course manager had no balls and comped the meal. then they left 2 cents on the table as a "tip" even though the "problems" they were talking about had nothing to do with me. fuckers just got $100 worth of free shit and couldnt tip? at that point i decided i was done. i walked out the door and tossed the 2 cents towards them and told them they needed it more than me.

i knew i was done if i did that. but every day you deal with assholes like that. and if you want to keep your job, you just have to grin and deal with it
 
ProBoxingInsidr said:
bussers and runners sure as hell arent making $15 an hour. I believe they made minimum wage. at the end of the night though, they would walk with a pretty good chunk of change. i didnt mind paying them but it pissed me off a lot of times having to tip the bartender. on a busy friday night, ok, but on a standard lunch shift, alcohol sales are slow.
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I'm not a busser or a runner.

Sorry if there was confusion there.
 
Der Eisbar said:
lol I'm not going to even engage in your hyper aggression and retardation. you've clearly never done it and/or haven't ever worked in a highly popular place. waiting tables in a busy restaurant can be physically and mentally exhausting. being a janitor is not. that's why being a waiter pays decent money boyo. carry on with your phaggotry.
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wait (pun intended) are you talking about being an astronaut? Professional athlete? Special forces? Then your post makes sense. But I thought we were talking about waiting tables.
 
BEER said:
I'm not a busser or a runner.

Sorry if there was confusion there.
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i didnt think that. i was just saying we didnt tip the cooks or anything. you talked about boh guys making $15 an hour. we never tipped those guys
 
If you think wait staff just "carry food," you don't understand that job.

Ima do some hyperbole:

Running backs just carry balls.

Postal peeps just carry mail.

Fedex just carries boxes.

I'm tired of examples now.
 
ProBoxingInsidr said:
i didnt think that. i was just saying we didnt tip the cooks or anything. you talked about boh guys making $15 an hour. we never tipped those guys
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I must have glossed over your rundown. I think Virginia has laws against "mandatory" tip sharing, so that might be part of the issue. When I've seen servers share tips, it's usually just a few bucks to bussers. Never a real system in place.

I wouldn't ever be a server because I have a low tolerance for bullshit. But servers (with no BOH experience) couldn't even fathom my job.
 
Imalive said:
I know the tipping debate has been done before and it's a pretty stupid system but we won't go there. My question is why do people believe wait staff deserve so such a high wage? Wait staff can make 20+ dollars an hour for carrying food, that's more than many important "skilled jobs" in America. Every hard working person deserves a livable wage but I fail to see why restaurant wait staff deserve so much more than important skilled jobs.
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they basically have to eat shit for a living.
 
BEER said:
I must have glossed over your rundown. I think Virginia has laws against "mandatory" tip sharing, so that might be part of the issue. When I've seen servers share tips, it's usually just a few bucks to bussers. Never a real system in place.

I wouldn't ever be a server because I have a low tolerance for bullshit. But servers (with no BOH experience) couldn't even fathom my job.
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maybe thats a way around it. you arent tip sharing, you are giving them a percentage of you sales.
 
Exi-Meta-Tran-Man said:
The job is what you make it.
They are plenty of jobs that you have to work with "salty-ass patrons" with no tipping.
I have worked much harder jobs with shit public, horrible bosses, or boring and brutal routine, and no tips.

Working as a server was easy, pleasurable and paid way better for my output than any other job I have ever worked.

If a server does well, I tip well, if I get absolutely shit service I don't tip at all.
BTW...I have historically tipped better than anyone I know, giving minimum of 20% for good service. And I make it a point to tip people that never receive tips, such as tipping the people at city hall receiving payments for parking tickets, fines, etc...because its fun.
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What are some generel tips you can give, to someone who'll begin working as a waiter soon?
 
wonderbread said:
Work in general should be pay for performance... this is why the unions are bullshit.. it doesn't give any worker incentive to work hard.. Everyone gets the same raise/pay based on a bargaining agreement. It creates lazy workers.
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Yeah unions are bullshit because "some" people abuse the system. Plus all those "lazy" union workers who basically built the American middle class.

your post is rubbish
 
They don't. Low skill job. Easily replaced. I'm guessing very few of them are really great at their job and motivate customers to keep coming back and diffuse difficult customers.
 
ProBoxingInsidr said:
50% of the population would quit after a shift or two. 40% of the rest wouldnt have the people skills to deal with the public.

i believe most of you guys are just trolling with this stuff because you see how worked up servers get. most of you saying anyone could do it are the same ones saying fuck tipping them. so how long are you gonna last when a table runs you to death and gives you a $2 tip on a $50 tab when you make $2.00 an hour? perhaps the hardest part of the jab is smiling and telling customers to have a great day when you really want to tell them to fuck off. but apparently most of you guys seem to think the asshole manager would be just fine when you do that.

when i was 17 or so i worked at an O'Charleys. i had a brutal table who was there for a free meal. from the moment they sat they complained. oredered a bunch of expensive shit and kept complaining. asked to see the manager who i had already warned about them and refused to pay. of course manager had no balls and comped the meal. then they left 2 cents on the table as a "tip" even though the "problems" they were talking about had nothing to do with me. fuckers just got $100 worth of free shit and couldnt tip? at that point i decided i was done. i walked out the door and tossed the 2 cents towards them and told them they needed it more than me.

i knew i was done if i did that. but every day you deal with assholes like that. and if you want to keep your job, you just have to grin and deal with it
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My old boss was awesome.

We had a table come in like that. He also comped their meal, but he told them to not bother ever coming back.

It was so busy that night... The tables around them clapped as he escorted them out.

So much drama for a free meal.

He was such a great owner. He made every guest feel appreciated for coming there. From teenagers coming in for prom to celebrities.

If anyone lives in Lakewood (west of Denver). It was at 240 Union.
 
High pay? Lmao. If you can't afford to tip stay at home you cheap fuck.
 
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