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Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by ReadWrite, Feb 13, 2018.
I like Woodley more after this. Doesn't take Dana's shit like so many fighters.
Woodley's personal promoter is Lauryn Hill.
You dont get it think deeper - if he can smash Nate which he will - Tyron will say to Conor "why fight this bum I smoked. Come for belt and the guy who beat Nate."
It's all to get Conor the real payday.
It's the same reason every LW is calling out Nate. To invalidate trilogy and put themselves in pole position.
He should stop worrying about his brand so much and just be a champion and fight.
I'm not. The Diaz brothers are exciting as hell when they fight guys who are willing to stand in the pocket and trade but I doubt Woodley would do that. He'd probably mix in a lot of on the outside with a steady diet of takedowns and I think he'd be too cautious of Nate's BJJ game to take any risks on the ground. It'd probably be a lot of lay and pray.
I think you're right about Colby. It'd probably just be an extension of the Maia fight. Woodley just refuses to take any risks what so ever. Guys like Maia and Woodley are tailor made for him to KO but he's fully content to just stuff takedowns and point spar to get the win.
The UFC did this to themselves as soon as they started letting Conor completely dictate his own career. Now everyone else thinks they can too. The precedent has been set. This shit didn't use to be ran like boxing. It didn't use to be up to the champion to "give someone a shot". The next challenger was lined up by the UFC and they fought. Then the post-Conor era began...
I don't blame Conor. It's the UFC's fault. They lost control of their business model.
Tyron doesn't need to beat Nate just to earn a fight with Conor... beating Nate is not the surefire path to Conor.
Tyron obviously wants the money fight with Conor (who wouldn't?), and if Conor wanted it, all he would have to do is ask for it... I'm sure the UFC would bend over for him. Conor can posture for his fans and the media all he wants, but Woodley would smash the shit out of him and Conor knows it.
Conor makes the company millions of dollars, he should get special treatment. Tyron puts people to sleep and should fall in line and fight the number one contender and be an exciting champion which will automatically improve his brand.
Do wonderboy vs Diaz, winner gets woodley.
That way if Diaz wins he can kinda say I'm deserving of a shot as I beat a number 2 ranked guy.
WB is #1 and has zero chance against WB. He coulndt beat scrubs at 170.
I agree, but that's just not how precedents work. Once you've made exceptions for one, everyone else wants exceptions too. Before Conor and Ronda, the UFC tried to market themselves more like the NFL without relying too heavily on certain individual stars but then Conor and Ronda came along and the UFC saw the opportunity to grab all that money right now ignoring the potential ramifications of essentially going away from their proven business model. In hindsight, it was brilliant by Zuffa. They saw they had two megastars the likes of which MMA had never seen, so milk the absolute shit out of them to maximize the UFC's value and then sell. But now the UFC as a sports league is left with the aftermath and it's led to a bunch of entitled champs, interim belts left and right, and pretty much just a damn junk show at the moment.
Beating Nate takes trilogy off the table and improves your shot at getting the money fight that why all LW are calling him out too.
I think anyone has potential to be a star, especially Tyron, but the guy has these horrible fights, and shows very little character and no charisma. The guy is basically walking and talking as though this is just an ordinary job where he expects more pay than he’s seemingly worth.
Tyron needs to start showing people that he’s worth watching, by being interesting in the cage, and in interviews. Right now, he’s basically your average joe complaining about his workplace, and how he deserves more money...he’s basically 90% of the working population.
Overall I think dana has some nerve to say no chance of Diaz/Woodley when he let GSP fight for the middleweight belt.
Dana is a dbag, no doubt. But Woodley is just so damn unlikeabke.
Maybe you wouldn't scream for a fighter to get cut for Woodley like performances as of late, but I'm fairly confident that you wouldn't be looking forward to their fights.
Woodley is not a counter puncher
As champion, Woodley has not engaged. As a result, fans do not want to hear him bitch.
Fighters have beaten both WB and Maia while bringing the fight to them, being defensive isn't the only way to beat them.
Had Woodley went on the offensive and absolutely throttled WB and Maia how he did Lawler, there wouldn't be as big of an issue with him wanting to fight Diaz. There'd still be people complaining, but I bet Dana White wouldn't be one of them.
But if you can't comprehend why he gets the flak that he gets, then I don't know what to tell you. He deserves all the negativity he's been receiving.
Are you going to watch his next fight?
RDA vs Woodley?
Diaz vs Woodley?
Are you not going to watch these fights?
The Diaz trilogy is all but off the table already, at least for the next foreseeable future. Conor has name dropped Diaz recently (and will continue to) because he doesn't want anything to do with Ferguson or Khabib. If Diaz didn't publicly price himself out it might have already happened.
Tony (by being virtue of being IC) and Khabib (dominating fights more regularly now) are making it more and more difficult for Conor to avoid them. By rights, Tony should already have the guaranteed shot against Conor, but Khabib had to go and make a case for it too. The UFC took advantage of the Tony-or-Khabib situation to gloss over the fact they can't get Conor in line and that they've created their own pile of shit they're trying to avoid stepping in.
They way I see it is... if you're not a champ, you can go fight whoever the fuck you want. If you are the champ, then play the game and defend your title.
Do you think Woodley would vacate his belt if it meant getting a fight with Diaz? Not a fucking chance.
T-Wood is a drama queen. I'd rather have Colby as a champion. He have more marketing potential than boring Tyquil