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Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by ReadWrite, Feb 13, 2018.
1. By calling Sherdog "Sherfront" in the context in which you did, you most certainly averred that racism was the issue here. Take responsibility for your words.
2. I'm always willing to talk about race in any number of contexts, but I think given the intensity of feeling in invokes it is wise to avoid starting such a conversation by recklessly labeling large groups of people as if they were white supremacists. You were being an ass, and I pointed that out.
3. Of course I am not the one who brought up race. That was you. Again, take responsibility.
The more I hear woodley more I like him. I bag on his snore fest fighting style but then again he knows his muscle bound ass can't go 100% all 5 like scrawny dudes do so I understand it. But way he stands up for himself against an asshole lying predator like Dana I'm give major props. Most these fighters are "company men" to a fault including some of my favs like Ferguson taking Khabib when he's entiled to Conor.
This is where you're fucking up, though. I didn't call it Sherfront because of any response to this story, which is what you've decided to narrow in on by telling me to "point out specifically who you think is racist and what they said that you think was racist" and also say "The issue is whether his race matters in this specific instance." I don't need to take responsibility for a narrative you've created.
Who cares? Wow I'm being an ass to anyone who subscribes to the label of Sherfront. Damn! Got me!
Unless you're denying the existence of those types of posters, I don't see the point in any of this part of the conversation.
This is objectively not true. Refer back to section 1.
You introduced race into a discussion that was not previously about race and you did it in a deliberately insulting way. You were being an ass. I think you know this.
Obviously you do. You're the one who has tried to analyze my entire tenure at Sherdog.
I didn't introduce race. I introduced the idea that people would make exception for Dana White because this is a conflict between him and Tyron Woodley, and Sherdoggers especially the Sherfront type don't like Tyron Woodley for whatever reason
The rest is all you, my man.
I meant who cares if I'm being an ass to people who could be compared to white supremacists?
When mark hunt hates on the Ufc everyone’s loves it
I can’t stand woodley but I’m slowly turning into a supporter of his whining
He would murk rda btw
I was all for Tyron fighting GSP. Too bad GSP is too big of a pussy
Woodley seems like a guy with a job he thought he would like and that pays well but now his bills dictate he has to keep doing it. Like jobprison.
I'll see you that and raise you one
Not to be argumentative or because Woodley is my favorite fighter, but because I don't like Nate Marquardt. He ruined the main event of the first Ultimate Fight Night with some awful lnp, and he had the nerve to be on steroids while doing it. Probably the biggest counter argument to the "steroids make fights better" argument
Woodley is one of the greatest fighters in the modern era of MMA who has defended the WW belt more regularly than other UFC champs and who speaks against the racism in MMA but of course the majority of the MMA community will be racist towards him via hiding behind the let's spam sarcastic remarks on social media and Youtube videos of everything being racist in order to insult him more.
Some throw in actual racist remarks in there and try to slide it in as part of the sarcasm.
The UFC and dudes are hurt by their great white hopes losing. Hurt by Rashad and Rampage/Chuck, Wonderboy/Woodley twice, Nunes/Shevchenko twice and just recently Cyborg/ Holm.
Shutting down Maia's BJJ ability with supreme TDD just made it even worse.
Clinging onto the only white hope who actually got a UD over Woodley in Rory MacDonald or reaching even further with the roided Nate Marquardt fight earlier in Woodley's career.
This is part of the racism that Woodley is talking about which was confirmed even more so when an MMA podcast lead by former UFC HW Brandon Schuab made a racial twitter post about how the Fox Panel had just black people only.
Justice prevailed though when one of the UFC Fox panellists, legendary MMA veteran Yves Edwards spoke out well against Brandon Schaub and made him apologize for that blatant racist remark on twitter.
Subtle and insidious, holding minorities to different and higher standards just so they can shit on.
Not conforming to racist stereotypes, like the Mandingo fighter or the "thug" or the overthe top arrogant "baller" just to sellfights.
Respect to Woodley for speaking out well against racism in the MMA community and the UFC and for not conform to one of those racial stereotypes.
While it's far from fair, Dana is the most important person in mma from a financial perspective, talking shit to, or about him is only going to hurt woodley. Not fair but welcome to the real world
Dana White earned every negative word that was ever said about him.
This shit between him and Woodley isn’t related to this situation alone.
Dana being a piece of shit for years and years has caused situation after situation either like this one or any number of others.
Lol yes sherdogger why dont you tell us how undeserving he is of being a world champion.
Something tells me that Woodley will be the 1st current UFC Champion to be Bellator bound.
What did Woodley lie about?
The fight was offered to Woodley and Diaz.
At the end of the day Woodley always defends against the next challenger.
Sad but I think Tyron is the biggest 180 of marketing in MMA history. The guy did a quick KO of a multiple-defending champ (Robbie) and then had a barnburner fantastic fight (WB1) as his first defense. Then one fight ruined it all (WB2). Both because the promotion for it was in bad taste and because it was one of the worst fights ever. Then the terrible Maia fight was the nail in the coffin. Shame because he's actually a good analyst but his marketing fight-wise has taken a massive hit.
I do think he beats RDA though. People will go from saying RDA found his new home to saying he is a LW. Love RDA and his skillset is elite but his WW stint just doesn't scream out to knowing where's he at at that division to me.
think that fight will happen. I think it will happen this year. I think it’s way more likely than people realize. There are conversations about Nate and I fighting in July. The UFC has offered Nate that fight. They just have to make it worth his while. I think I’ll fight Nate this year, and I think it will be my return to the Octagon. If I had to bet the house on it, that’s my next opponent.”
This is a direct quote from him saying that the ufc offered Nate a fight against him.
He was full of shit and got called out for it, rightfully so.