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I thought you were just a die hard fan, didn't realize you were a troll. Well played.If someone watches that video and can not admit Conor is likely one of the greatest pugilistic talents we have ever seen, they are better off sticking with another sport. His jab, his speed, his angles, his fight IQ, his ring control and power are staggering. Even in the 9th, when he was totally gassed, he shredded Mayweather's body.
I want to see Conor in MMA, never gave him a chance vs Mayweather, but this was a total revelation. Very sad that few people can take an objective look at this fight and admit what transpired; full gas tank Conor is like a Loma and RJJ hybrid.
Who gasses out in 3 rounds?He only started walking Conor down after Conor gassed out.
If someone watches that video and can not admit Conor is likely one of the greatest pugilistic talents we have ever seen, they are better off sticking with another sport. His jab, his speed, his angles, his fight IQ, his ring control and power are staggering. Even in the 9th, when he was totally gassed, he shredded Mayweather's body.
I want to see Conor in MMA, never gave him a chance vs Mayweather, but this was a total revelation. Very sad that few people can take an objective look at this fight and admit what transpired; full gas tank Conor is like a Loma and RJJ hybrid.
Hahahahhahfull gas tank Conor is like a Loma and RJJ hybrid.
There are very few people on this website that tried taking an objective look at this fight pre fight. That @n.diazismylife1999 cat tried taking an objective look and got torn to pieces, just like me, by just stating obvious. Facts. It is possible to say Floyd is the goat without taking any thing away from Conor, just like its possible to say Conor exceeded expectations without taking anything away from Floyd.I thought you were just a die hard fan, didn't realize you were a troll. Well played.
Did you watch the video provided by TS, bro? Enough with trolling already. There are people that want to discuss what happened without these ridiculous hyperbolic claims.Can you pls provide timestamps of all instances where Conor displayed his fight iq, great jabs, angles and ring control?
All I can remember was a half-assed uppercut that Floyd laughed off and a telegraphed jab that pushed Floyds head back.
The rest was Conor desperately clinching, attempting takedowns, flailing his arms while trying to chase Floyd bobbing and weaving, backfists, bizarre stance switches and getting countered like a bitch.
Long story short, he looked exactly like what he is - a fucking amateur.
There's a distinction between "not trying" and an effective rope-a-dope strategy. Looking at the fight objectively (by the numbers), Mayweather's output in rd 4 matched the total output of rds 1-3, combined. Unless he forgot how to box, he was definitely up to something those first three rounds. By rd 7, he was throwing over 50 strikes, signaling he had fully transitioned into the next phase of his plan. His stated goal was to fatigue McGregor and earn a stoppage in the mid to late rds. Both happened and that's classic rope-a-dope, by any measure.there are people acting like Floyd flat out did not even try for the first 5 rounds and was pulling a rope a dope. I don't buy that, as Floyd is smart and would never surrender so many scores, rounds, damage, get countered so often and ever risk such a thing with an opponent that is a complete and total question mark
It's funny that I keep getting called out by the haters despite my only official fight prediction being that Conor's corner throws in the towel in round 8-10. Yet some people think I got "proven wrong" by the fight.There are very few people on this website that tried taking an objective look at this fight pre fight. That @n.diazismylife1999 cat tried taking an objective look and got torn to pieces, just like me, by just stating obvious. Facts. It is possible to say Floyd is the goat without taking any thing away from Conor, just like its possible to say Conor exceeded expectations without taking anything away from Floyd.
There is no need to be so triggered and overly hyperbolic, bro. Gary Randall had Conor winning 5 rounds. I don't see why that fact can not atleast be owned up to and it's impossible to have a rational discussion in regards to what transpired.
See, I can respect this. Atleast you try to articulate your view and give evidence of it. The claim of "Conor looked like an amateur in their, flailing like a goon", which is stated a lot is just absurd and glad to see you give a rational view, tho I don't totally agree but agree with most of what you say.There's a distinction between "not trying" and an effective rope-a-dope strategy. Looking at the fight objectively (by the numbers), Mayweather's output in rd 4 matched the total output of rds 1-3, combined. Unless he forgot how to box, he was definitely up to something those first three rounds. By rd 7, he was throwing over 50 strikes, signaling he had fully transitioned into the next phase of his plan. His stated goal was to fatigue McGregor and earn a stoppage in the mid to late rds. Both happened and that's classic rope-a-dope, by any measure.
Meanwhile, he wasn't surrendering so many scores. Officially, two judges gave McGregor one 10-9 round, while the other gave him three. Floyd traded early round(s) for intel, took no significant damage while doing so, but continued to force McGregor to work. As the fight grew more lopsided, Mayweather would later work his way towards 10-8s through a combination of power and volume, before the finish. Scoring was something he had firm control over, and in a 12 rd fight, there was no possible way McGregor would win on points.
McGregor very obviously has striking skills and is a talented fighter, but the highly regulated rules of boxing do not lend to his talents. Mayweather is a specialist and the difference was incredibly clear.
While I think it's fair to remain skeptical of Mayweather's word, I think he has a strong enough body of work to reinforce his position. Objectively, we have to acknowledge the fact that one of McGregor's greatest weakness going into this fight, was also his biggest advantage-- that 0-0 record.See, I can respect this. Atleast you try to articulate your view and give evidence of it. The claim of "Conor looked like an amateur in their, flailing like a goon", which is stated a lot is just absurd and glad to see you give a rational view, tho I don't totally agree but agree with most of what you say.
I have no doubt that Mayweather was playing possum for the first few rounds but even he admitted it was hard to get going, even losing rounds 4 and 5 on Gary Randall's card and 8 on many other cards. The price one pays for going after an opponent is the risk of being countered, which Mayweather was a few times until Conor fatigued totally (which he admitted). He realized that his Pacquiao technique would not work, as Conor was contented in just jabbing him at a distanc, going to the body Andy not the head and scoring.
It is also hard to take fighters words as they are emotionally involved and not objective: Conor says it was easy, he gassed owing to deciaions and it had nothing to do with Mayweather. Mayweather says he meant for the fight to play out exactly like it did. I think the truth lies in middle and we can walk away giving both fighters props. But if I'm Conor's coach, I am getting my whip out, having him run marathons, up hills and do triathlons, because boy o' boy, what a waste of talent it would be to have such a skill set and keep on gassing......I almost wonder now if Eddie made it out of the second if he would have taken over the fight. Loma and RJJ both had similar styles but were able to keep that pace for 36 minutes.
Agreed 100# bro.While I think it's fair to remain skeptical of Mayweather's word, I think he has a strong enough body of work to reinforce his position. Objectively, we have to acknowledge the fact that one of McGregor's biggest advantages going into this fight, was also his greatest weakness-- that 0-0 record.
While his skills weren't totally unknown, McGregor was literally a puzzle that Mayweather had to figure out on the fly. Diaz 2 was really the fight which gave us any real data, because McGregor had mostly finished any other fight pretty early (where there wasn't some wrestling going on). Meanwhile, Mayweather had 49 pro fights, including 12 rnd bouts worth of data, for study. I think it's definitely within the realm of reason to suggest that Mayweather's approach was to tread carefully and let the other man show his cards, while trusting in his own years of experience to come through. In doing so he took some shots, but they weren't he types of blows to deter him-- he continued to press McGregor, which is a sign of intelligent action, not just the receiving end of a counter uppercut or two. Contrast that to McGregor, where once he started getting hit, his defense fell apart, in combination with fatigue.
I think if we comb through more details, we can reveal a bit, but I agree, McGregor's greatest hurdle right now is his cardio. I don't believe that's something he'll be able to get over at this point, but if he can work on when to rest and how to better pace himself, he can account for that gap. It would be an even more scary fighter, without a doubt.
Yeah, Mayweather let Conor uppercut him. For da lulz.
Did you watch the video provided by TS, bro? Enough with trolling already. There are people that want to discuss what happened without these ridiculous hyperbolic claims.
Again, Gary Randall had Conor winning the first five, and its safe to say he is more qualified than anyone here. It is indisputable that he gassed and then got sloppy, but to say he looked like an amateur is obviously trolling.
You were one of those making overly hyperbolic claims and spewing Conor hatred before the fight and it sounds like you learned nothing and just doubled down. Sad. I only defended Conor's abilities in the octagon, said he was likely the only fighter that could win two titles i the current UFC (Woodley may be able to too), said the towel would likely be thrown in around the 6th and I got grouped in with Conor groupies.
And if Mayweather fought Conor the way he fought Pac, he'd have been picked off against the ropes all night. Conor wasn't coming after him. He kept distance well and countered Floyd's leading long right hands with uppercuts two times before Floyd switched it up.If Floyd fought the way he did Conor against Manny, Manny would of landed unprecedented amounts on Floyd.
Here you go bro: 2 seconds in is the body shot that hurt May.Yes I did bro and I am dead serious.
Conor looked like shit, didnt land a single power punch and got played for 3 rounds.
Please show me just one significant power punch that Conor landed.
We both know I can provide you with gifs of Conor flailing in the in-fight, getting hit while turning 180 in slomo during a switch, throwing a backfist and attempting a panic takedown (let alone all of Floyds counters).
If you want me to make these gifs, I will but we both know these things happened.
Yeah, Mayweather let Conor uppercut him. For da lulz.
Here you go bro: 2 seconds in is the body shot that hurt May.
Yes, you can provide gifs and illustrate your points when Conor was gassed and panic wrestling. That being said, he was still up or even on many people's score cards and had no answer when Mayweather would turtle up and turn his back. The hammer punches did look goofy, and he was reprimanded as such, tho I found it peculiar the ref never reprimanded Mayweather. In 1997 when I was boxing Golden Gloves, I was fighting a kid from NYC (forgot his name) and he stung me right where the ribs meet the stomach and I crumpled, turned my back and was then DQ'd, ruled as a TKO. Maybe that is owing to the fact it is in the amateurs, but I still find it peculiar occurrences like that happened so often and nothing was ever done about it.
All the credit to .Mayweather he is crafty as all get out but I still don't feel Conor got out skilled, but rather out witted.
I was shocked his head didn't come clean off. With Conor's one of a kind. power and in the first round no less. No one can take the left hand.
Conor makea Paulie look like a murderous puncher.
Well this is all very hard to tell seeing as he was fighting the best ever. Do we say Cain is of a low class because he gassed in one round versus Werdum? Do we say Aldo is of a lower class because he won the first two vs Max Holloway and then gassed?It says alot about you not seeing the skill difference between the 2.
Tell me the boxing skills he was on par with?
Since you've boxed you should know after a few rounds the difference in class and skill start to show.
If you can only fight for a few rounds your a fighter of low class.