War Machine case

[High Altitude]

WM is a lost cause. It was only a matter of time before he ended up dead or in jail.

The guy seems like he is actually pretty intillegent, but has zero control over his emotions and impulses.

 

[Soul Rebel 2]

The Law punishments in Europe (in most countrys) are a fucking joke!!!

And yet, their crime rates are, on average, lower.

 

[Culombo]

just a reminder .. a fella in canada savagely beheaded and then started eating a fellow bus passenger .. he's now a free man

 

[Lord Coke]

Something age well other things not as much

 

[hillelslovak87]

..............

 

[Culombo]

One could, in all likelihood, rationally argue about the details of his sentence and case, but come on. From what I read, she had broken up with him weeks before, and he had harassed her as well. Even if she was still his girl, that gives no man license to fuck up a guy, torture and rape a woman after beating the piss out of her. It's California in the 21st century, not 19th.

in canada he would have gotten community service

 

[DragRacer]

I agree that WM was a victim in the sense that he got baited into walking in on Mack fucking somebody else, with her knowing that he’d freak the fuck out and wreck them both.

In that sense, the 36 years is an absurd sentence for that specific night of inexcusably violent behavior on his behalf.

But given his violent past, would you not agree that he’s an animal that needs to be locked in a cage for a while?

I've seen people get far less for actual unlawful killings. He walked in on his girl with another man.

 

[Lord Coke]

I agree that WM was a victim in the sense that he got baited into walking in on Mack fucking somebody else, with her knowing that he’d freak the fuck out and wreck them both.

In that sense, the 36 years is an absurd sentence for that specific night of inexcusably violent behavior on his behalf.

But given his violent past, would you not agree that he’s an animal that needs to be locked in a cage for a while?

He commited a crime and based on that he should have done some time. Anything south of 10 years I would not be mad about. I personally think 3-5 years would have been a appropriate sentence and that is based on seeing many similar sentences in similar types of cases.

 

[JohnnySagebrush]

I War Machine is a victim not a criminal.

I get it might be hard for you to be objective in this case, but that is some silly shit. Argue the sentence is draconian, but WM is a violent criminal, and a habitual one.

 

[Quipling]

One could, in all likelihood, rationally argue about the details of his sentence and case, but come on. From what I read, she had broken up with him weeks before, and he had harassed her as well. Even if she was still his girl, that gives no man license to fuck up a guy, torture and rape a woman after beating the piss out of her. It's California in the 21st century, not 19th.

2 months before, yeah.

Also, he had multiple priors for assault/battery, including a felony and a near-felony that he pleaded down. He was on probation for the felony.

Then, after the lengthy incident with Mack, he evaded police and was caught at a hotel after he got in another physical altercation there.

Then, he was apparently an unstable, aggressive tool at trial.

That's the kind of shit that gets you a bunch of years, because he's a repeat violent offender who apparently tied it to sex this time, and was armed. Increasingly severe offenses, egregious physical injury, high degree of viscousness, demonstrated propensity to violence (it's in his fucking name, lol), involved a weapon, combined (repeated) sexual conduct with other offenses, fucked with a potential witness, etc. The only thing that helps is that most of his felonies were committed in a two-hour spree and thus related to each other. And yes, behavior matters, because it's part of how the judge determines things like "danger to society."

 

[Darkballs]

I've been a lawyer for awhile now and I've seen people get far less for actual unlawful killings. He is a victim of a society that has been eaten up by radical femnism.

From another poster who's been a lawyer for awhile now, fuck off. Link this to your other posts about how damaging it is for a guy to get rejected by a girl.

He broke into her home, beat her as best as he could while drunk, failed at raping her (because he was drunk), threatened to kill her, and went to get a knife while she booked.

Your defense is that he walked in on her with another guy? So do what any other real man would do: walk away and cut all ties.

Fuck you are an embarrassmment to our profession. You not being able to get laid doesn't excuse this shit.

 

[DragRacer]

I agree. 7-10 years with chance of parole in 5 is the number that I had in my head as a fair sentence given that it was a repeat offense.

If it was his first arrest in his life, I’d support house arrest +probation as a sentence as he was clearly baited into that situation. But he’s definitely got anger management issues, combined with a “specific set of skills”

He commited a crime and based on that he should have done some time. Anything south of 10 years I would not be mad about. I personally think 3-5 years would have been a appropriate sentence and that is based on seeing many similar sentences in similar types of cases.

 

[Lord Coke]

From another poster who's been a lawyer for awhile now, fuck off. Link this to your other posts about how damaging it is for a guy to get rejected by a girl.

He broke into her home, beat her as best as he could while drunk, failed at raping her (because he was drunk), threatened to kill her, and went to get a knife while she booked.

Your defense is that he walked in on her with another guy? So do what any other real man would do: walk away and cut all ties.

Fuck you are an embarrassmment to our profession. You not being able to get laid doesn't excuse this shit.

Is there any reason that you feel the need to personally attack me every time you reply to one of my posts?

 

[Darkballs]

Is there any reason that you feel the need to personally attack me every time you reply to one of my posts?

1) Because your posts suck, 2) you invoke your profession as a lawyer, which means fuck-all to other lawyers, and 3) you wanna respond to the merits? Your excuse that he was provoked because he showed up drunk and saw her in bed with another dude, is hardly a legal argument.

 

[Quipling]

I agree. 7-10 years with chance of parole in 5 is the number that I had in my head as a fair sentence given that it was a repeat offense.

If it was his first arrest in his life, I’d support house arrest +probation as a sentence as he was clearly baited into that situation. But he’s definitely got anger management issues, combined with a “specific set of skills”

First off, there's no way that house arrest was appropriate given the facts of this case, no matter how clean his priors were. That's affluenze

Normally, felony battery in nevada apparently carries a base charge of 1-4 years, or +2 years if you're already on probation, which he was. Here, you have two different victims (ignoring the potential witness he roughed up just before getting caught), so 7-12 would be for a normal repeated offense.

But this wasn't a normal repeated offense. This was involved a deadly weapon, resulted in serious bodily injury, and was part of a pattern of physical domestic violence. So you can add a bunch of years on that. There were also repeated related attempts at sexual assault, so add a couple more years. And then add a bunch of years for restraining someone - because confining someone for the purpose of committing those other crimes - which he did - gets kidnapping. He also made repeated threats related to the possibility that he would be prosecuted, so you have all those witness tampering charges. And then four years for violating probation.

That still leaves room for the judge to decide to go high or low at sentencing, but then he acted like a piece of shit up to and during trial.

He wasn't baited. He showed up unannounced at his ex's house and beat the shit out of her and someone else.

 

[BruceLeeOnTRT]

He commited a crime and based on that he should have done some time. Anything south of 10 years I would not be mad about. I personally think 3-5 years would have been a appropriate sentence and that is based on seeing many similar sentences in similar types of cases.

Did he break into her place? I was under the impression he had a key and showed up a day early.

 

[Lord Coke]

Did he break into her place? I was under the impression he had a key and showed up a day early.

That is correct. He had a key to her place. I was training with him the day he left for Vegas. He was just planning on seeing her. It wasn't anything like people painted out. He had permission from her to come and go from her spot in Vegas.

 

[BruceLeeOnTRT]

That is correct. He had a key to her place. I was training with him the day he left for Vegas. He was just planning on seeing her. It wasn't anything like people painted out. He had permission from her to come and go from her spot in Vegas.

I thought so. Seemed like a passion crime, wrong place wrong time. I heard somewhere that this same judge handled one of his previous trials, so that could explain why they threw the book at him.

Last I read, he found God and has calmed down in prison. I hope he finds redemption.

 

[TheGreatA]

If you let him get away with it, eventually he would've just gotten into a relationship with another porn actress, and beat the crap out of them after being "cheated on". Or something to that effect.

He was just looking for trouble. It was becoming pretty obvious that he couldn't function as a free man.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Flying off the handle and punching someone is one thing. Squaring up and throwing liver kicks at a tiny woman is another.