LeFraud is the biggest fraud in the NBA

[asharak]

You forgot there was this dude named kyrie that helped him tremendously. Then theres another guy named ray allen who lebron owes his left nut too for hitting the shot.

Lebrons choke job against the mavs and his other 4 losses wont be forgotten. Now matter how much you throw his stats out as an arguement. Hes 3-5. Thats it.

And Jordan owes paxson/kerr. He's only 6-0 in a worse era. Despte his "choking," he still had the 2nd best numbers on his team to another FMVP in D Wade. What were Jordan's numbers like in the orlando series or when seattle put payton on him?

So not getting swept in the playoffs is better than winning rings? Lebronies are hillarious lol

So what exactly is more impressive. having a few playoff losses and going 6-0 in the finals.....or going 3 for 8 in the finals?jordan also averaged like 40 PPG in finals and never going past 6 games 2 of lebrons finals wins went to game 7, meaning he barely pulled it out.

finals is all that matters, no one gives trophies for beating up on weak conferences every year in the playoffs.

People point out LeBron getting swept in the Finals on a team that had no business being there(still would have swept any team in the 90s finals)

11-1 is more impressive, so Russell wins again. Quit confusing team accomplishments with individual greatness.

NOBODY else led both teams in pts, rebs & assists in any playoff series, which LeBron did(in losing the finals with 2 injured teammates). Then, he led both teams in pts, rebs, asts, stls, and blks while like you gave credit to Kyrie.

LeBron has been the best player on the planet for 12 years in this significantly better era(Jordan was arguably for 8 years in a significantly worse era).

 

[Money509]

So he's a fraud because you're upset some people are comparing him to mj?

Hes a fraud because thats what fans and the media do. Everything he does is compared to jordan, go watch espn or something. When really he cant even carry jordans jockstrap.

 

[Money509]

And Jordan owes paxson/kerr. He's only 6-0 in a worse era. Despte his "choking," he still had the 2nd best numbers on his team to another FMVP in D Wade. What were Jordan's numbers like in the orlando series or when seattle put payton on him?


People point out LeBron getting swept in the Finals on a team that had no business being there(still would have swept any team in the 90s finals)

11-1 is more impressive, so Russell wins again. Quit confusing team accomplishments with individual greatness.

NOBODY else led both teams in pts, rebs & assists in any playoff series, which LeBron did(in losing the finals with 2 injured teammates). Then, he led both teams in pts, rebs, asts, stls, and blks while like you gave credit to Kyrie.

LeBron has been the best player on the planet for 12 years in this significantly better era(Jordan was arguably for 8 years in a significantly worse era).

Jordan played less seasons than lebron. Been in less finals, and won more rings. And stepped up in the clutch more times than lebron. You can keep coping with all your other random hypothetical shit while the fact remains jordan never lost. And accomplished more than lebron in less tries and looked more impressive doing it.

8 finals appearances and 3 fucking rings? . How the hell is that even remotely impressive to anything MJ ever did?. You act like lebrons easy runs through the east to the finals are more impressive than actually winning the finals when he gets there lmao.

Thats the difference, MJ won when he got to the biggest stage, you can slice it and dice it whatever way you want. Jordan never failed, lebron has 5 times and will probably keep doing so.

Winning championships>>>>stat padding in the leastern conference playoffs

 

[asharak]

Jordan played less seasons than lebron. Been in less finals, and won more rings. And stepped up in the clutch more times than lebron. You can keep coping with all your other random hypothetical shit while the fact remains jordan never lost. And accomplished more than lebron in less tries and looked more impressive doing it.

8 finals appearances and 3 fucking rings? . How the hell is that even remotely impressive to anything MJ ever did?. You act like lebrons easy runs through the east to the finals are more impressive than actually winning the finals when he gets there lmao.

Thats the difference, MJ won when he got to the biggest stage, you can slice it and dice it whatever way you want. Jordan never failed, lebron has 5 times and will probably keep doing so.

Winning championships>>>>stat padding in the leastern conference playoffs

This is year 15 for LeBron(Jordan was about to quit the sport for the third time at the end of the year at this point in his career).
Jordan was on better teams relative to his worse era. I don't think that's disputable. Without him, the bulls won 55 games and a playoff series. Jordan came back the next year, and they also won 1 playoff sries.

If you want to keep mixing team accomplishments, Russell is still much greater. It must be so annoying that the Russell argument is the only one left since even the clutch one can be disproven with stats since 2015. (LeBron has hit more playoff game winners at a higher percentage). Heck, LeBron is like Jeter in the way that his clutch shooting statistics are consistent. Jordan and Kobe both dropped off ~20%

 

[Money509]

This is year 15 for LeBron(Jordan was about to quit the sport for the third time at the end of the year at this point in his career).
Jordan was on better teams relative to his worse era. I don't think that's disputable. Without him, the bulls won 55 games and a playoff series. Jordan came back the next year, and they also won 1 playoff sries.

If you want to keep mixing team accomplishments, Russell is still much greater. It must be so annoying that the Russell argument is the only one left since even the clutch one can be disproven with stats since 2015. (LeBron has hit more playoff game winners at a higher percentage). Heck, LeBron is like Jeter in the way that his clutch shooting statistics are consistent. Jordan and Kobe both dropped off ~20%

Yea you can argue russell. Because it would be a more valid argument basing off the fact that Bill Russell has a very impressive finals record. I wouldnt be mad at that argument at all even though most would say MJ.

Lebron is funny though, he runs through the weak ass east with the best team year after year. Then once the competition gets stiffer against west teams in the finals his career is really lackluster.

Lebrons total game finals record is 18-32

Jordans is 24-10

Now you tell me who is more dominant on the biggest stage, not to even mention jordan was the 1 hitting multiple clutch finals game winners . Lebron had kyrie and ray allen do that.

 

[Bay Area]

This , lebron literally formed superteams to get rings but now cries when KD literally did the same thing and murked him like he deserves. Lebron can dish it but cant take it. To be honest KD has already surpassed him.

Its not the same. Miami wasn't a proven team. KD joined the team that beat him in the semi finals. The same team that won the championship a year prior. It the same as Karl Malone deciding to join the Bulls

 

[asharak]

Yea you can argue russell. Because it would be a more valid argument basing off the fact that Bill Russell has a very impressive finals record. I wouldnt be mad at that argument at all even though most would say MJ.

Lebron is funny though, he runs through the weak ass east with the best team year after year. Then once the competition gets stiffer against west teams in the finals his career is really lackluster.

Lebrons total game finals record is 18-32

Jordans is 24-10

Now you tell me who is more dominant on the biggest stage, not to even mention jordan was the 1 hitting multiple clutch finals game winners . Lebron had kyrie and ray allen do that.

Russell Argument is really the only one that jordan has. He had 2 finals game winners (both against the woeful jazz). Paxson and Kerr really bailed him out. if you wanna talk kyrie, LeBron made 2 out of 3 plays to close that game while leading both teams in ALL 5 major stats for the series(somehow you wanna give kyrie credit though because you decided you hated lebron for being a better player than jordan before he ever made the finals).

 

[Bay Area]

Your arguments rejected

 

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[Prefect]

Yea you can argue russell. Because it would be a more valid argument basing off the fact that Bill Russell has a very impressive finals record. I wouldnt be mad at that argument at all even though most would say MJ.

Lebron is funny though, he runs through the weak ass east with the best team year after year. Then once the competition gets stiffer against west teams in the finals his career is really lackluster.

Lebrons total game finals record is 18-32

Jordans is 24-10

Now you tell me who is more dominant on the biggest stage, not to even mention jordan was the 1 hitting multiple clutch finals game winners . Lebron had kyrie and ray allen do that.

That isn't really an indicator of how good someone is. The year that Lebron brought the Cavs to the finals the first time, he was tearing the holy fuck out of everything. Everyone knew his team was underpowered.

I would also add that in addittion to Jordan playing in a weaker era, there is a also now a larger emphasis on creating super teams. Not that they didn't exist before but players are moving around with the explicit intentions of trying to make a run at the title.

 

[Zeta Reticuli]

Not even a fan but definitely top 5 ever. In the conversation for 2nd best.

 

[white-pony]

Was never a Lebron fan until he started speaking about his political views and now it's clear that he's the GOAT.

Jordan never had the balls to speak out about social inequalities because "republicans buy shoes too."

Oh, and Lebron never failed to pay a gambling debt that got his dad killed.

 

[Zeta Reticuli]

Was never a Lebron fan until he started speaking about his political views and now it's clear that he's the GOAT.

Jordan never had the balls to speak out about social inequalities because "republicans buy shoes too."

Oh, and Lebron never failed to pay a gambling debt that got his dad killed.

 

[asharak]

No, people saying hes in the same conversation as jordan is fraudulent.

Jordan hasn't been in the conversation for 2 finals now.

 

[Money509]

Jordan hasn't been in the conversation for 2 finals now.

Lebron is 1-1 in his last 2 finals. Are you awarding him participation trophies again?

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

Dudes such a fraud, sick of his fanboys pitying him for losing the finals. Dude will never be jordan, will never even surpass kobe or shaq. His whole career is a scam.

For like the past 8 years hes been stacking up the best team in the Leastern conference to easily run through all the shit teams for free runs to the finals and all his fanboys ride his nutsack for how GOAT he is because he makes the finals so much. There is literally just zero talent in the east thats the only reason he makes the finals because he gets gifted with stacked teams, dudes been avoiding the west his whole career.

Then when he makes the finals and loses all those times, fanboys wanna cry how he needs more help and how unfair it is for him lmao. No pity for lefraud, KD gave him a taste of his own medicine.

cliffs:

Lebrons a fraud
Beats up on weak east teams then gest blown the fuck out by the west

Great thread. I've been saying this here for years actually lol.

 

[Sexy]

Oh, and Lebron never failed to pay a gambling debt that got his dad killed.

LMAO

 

[asharak]

Nick is right

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

And Jordan owes paxson/kerr. He's only 6-0 in a worse era. Despte his "choking," he still had the 2nd best numbers on his team to another FMVP in D Wade. What were Jordan's numbers like in the orlando series or when seattle put payton on him?


People point out LeBron getting swept in the Finals on a team that had no business being there(still would have swept any team in the 90s finals)

11-1 is more impressive, so Russell wins again. Quit confusing team accomplishments with individual greatness.

NOBODY else led both teams in pts, rebs & assists in any playoff series, which LeBron did(in losing the finals with 2 injured teammates). Then, he led both teams in pts, rebs, asts, stls, and blks while like you gave credit to Kyrie.

LeBron has been the best player on the planet for 12 years in this significantly better era(Jordan was arguably for 8 years in a significantly worse era).

Mother of God. Some of the analysis here by some of you so cringe worthy. Like, I want it to be a troll job, but it's so low tier that I feel like it's a copy/paste from RealGM.

So sad!