Russia Collusion Megathread v11: This Is It

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picking up steam, its almost like everyone forgot what they were supposably investigating.maybe they'll uncover an unpaid jaywalking ticket next.

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...obe-doesnt-end-with-a-bang-but-with-a-whimper

This part of the article really stuck out to me:

"Many of us already thought Mueller’s team was nothing but a pack of partisan wolves. Now, there is no credibility left, no trust that this is really about the pursuit of evenhanded justice. It all smacks of a partisan witch-hunt funded by the American taxpayers, attempting to nullify the 2016 elections.

With all of these new revelations, we now face real questions as to what does the law actually mean in this country. We cannot forget that Huma Abedin may have committed the same crime as the one Flynn pleaded guilty to — lying to the FBI — yet, somehow, the FBI chose not to prosecute Abedin or perhaps others, like former Clinton adviser and legal counsel Cheryl Mills. So, is justice truly blind and evenhanded in America today?

If Flynn spends one day in jail, it will be a miscarriage of justice. We would do well to remember the precedent the Department of Justice set with the case of President Bill Clinton's former national security adviser, Sandy Berger, who stole classified documents from the National Archives, by stuffing them into his clothing and socks, then destroyed them before lying to federal agents about it. For that he got a $50,000 fine and was stripped of his security clearance.

But here is the bigger issue beyond the potential miscarriage of justice: The ongoing claims and misinformation that we continue to hear, that weave the dross of fairy tales into media coverage, that move markets and create great hope or fear (depending on your political perspective), and which simply are not true.

We saw this last week with ABC News reporter Brian Ross, who claimed Flynn was going to testify that the president ordered him to contact the Russians. For more than several hours, the false story percolated; the Dow dropped 350 points on the “news.”

And just this week we had reports that Bob Mueller’s team had subpoenaed the personal bank records of President Trump and his family. Again, at least for today, a falsehood.

Reporters who received inaccurate or false information from sources are not bound by confidentiality. Yet, not one media outlet has demanded over the past year that a single source who proffered inaccurate information or, quite frankly, lies, be outed. This, in many ways, reveals just how tight the “Deep State” is with the “Big Media” that cooperates with it."
 
I just wanted to quote this for the delicious trump supporter IQ levels.
Right here is the difference in sides. 1 was trying to add humor to the discussion while the other comes off like a humorless dope
 
http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/f...p-investigator-could-compromise-mueller-probe

I'm not getting into some argument about sources here either. I just chose the first one on the top of the page. Feel free to google a different source.

No worries. I agree with your position. With the article I posted on the front page, I pretty much did it anyway because the bottom line is most leftist mainstream outlets have bonded themselves to the leftist narrative so it's mostly the alternative media and Fox posting broader and contradicting opinions. Which is needed regardless of how they're unfortunately maligned.
 
http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/f...p-investigator-could-compromise-mueller-probe

I'm not getting into some argument about sources here either. I just chose the first one on the top of the page. Feel free to google a different source.

Looks like Stzrok might be the agent who took the dossier to the FISA court to get the warrant to spy on the Trump campaign

This is getting real interesting

So an agent took a foreign made piece of opposition propaganda to a court disguised as evidence to spy on a presidential campaign. That same agent then questioned one of the Americans spied on

If this is true. This agent is a traitor
 
No worries. I agree with your position. With the article I posted on the front page, I pretty much did it anyway because the bottom line is most leftist mainstream outlets have bonded themselves to the leftist narrative so it's mostly the alternative media and Fox posting broader and contradicting opinions. Which is needed regardless of how they're unfortunately maligned.
I'm genuinely wondering if this could be an impediment in impeachment, should things get that far.
 
How does one with his military background come up with a minimum $10 million for a hedge-fund investment?

http://offendedamerica.com/robert-mueller-invested-hedge-funds-linked-russia-george-soros/

Robert Mueller Invested In Hedge Funds Linked to Russia and George Soros

". . . Mueller’s exclusive hedge funds were not open to the general public, but rather wealthy private accredited investors. The minimum investment in several of the funds is $10 Million.

Mueller has been an investor in Mellon Optima L/S Strategy Fund, LLC for many years, according to his financial disclosures. That fund consists of holdings of other hedge funds in a structure commonly referred to as a “fund of funds”.

According to 2017 SEC Filings, one of the funds held by the Mellon Optima L/S Strategy Fund is the OCCO Eastern European Fund, run by Charlemagne Capital. The fund released a performance overview on August 31st that said in part:

“August was a relatively quiet month for markets and a strong one for the portfolio. The NAV gained 142 bps over the month. Russia was again the main driver with supportive contributions from other markets.”

The OCCO Eastern European Fund also stated in late August 2017 that “Our single largest position at ten percent total gross exposure is the 5% long position in Novatek paired with a cash neutral short position in Gazprom.” This means that the fund is betting against Russia’s state-owned natural gas company, Gazprom, while going long Gazprom’s main competitor Novatek, which is the largest non-state owned natural gas company in Russia.

According to Charlemagne Capital, the OCCO Eastern European Fund is based in the Cayman Islands and is has a net-long position in the Russian markets. This means that Robert Mueller gains financially if the Russian market does well. The OCCO Eastern European Fund also has long and short positions in Poland, Romania, and Kazakhstan. The fund’s prime brokers are Goldman Sachs and Credit Suisse.

Robert Mueller isn’t the only person investigating Russia with financial interests in Russia. California Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking member of the House intelligence committee, reported owning at least $16,000 of Russia-linked investments on his most recent financial disclosure.

Mueller’s investments in Russia could present a clear conflict of interest in how he carries out his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 President Election."

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"Another hedge fund that Robert Mueller disclosed owning was Defenders Multi-Strategy Hedge Fund, LLC. This hedge fund wass run by William P. Sauer, who has been sued by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) for running two separate Ponzi Schemes. Sauer ultimately settled the lawsuits for $5 million.

This hedge fund did business under 4 different names during its 9 years of existence.

1. 2002‐2004: Ivy Multi‐Strategy Hedge Fund LLC
2. 2004‐2009: BNY Ivy Multi‐Strategy Hedge Fund LLC
3. 2009‐2010: Defenders Multi‐Strategy Hedge Fund LLC
4. 2010‐2011: Ivy Asset Management LLC

“Ivy Asset Management”, as it was known at the time, fed clients into Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi Scheme and eventually paid $200 million to settle complaints associated with alleged misconduct surrounding this investment. The FBI never investigated any of the people or entities associated with the Defenders Multistrategy hedge fund or other funds that Mueller has invested in.

The hedge fund at the center of these allegations of wrongdoing never faced investigations from the FBI, and produced profits for Robert Mueller, who headed up the FBI when the allegations were made, prompting the SEC began their investigation.

The US Department of Justice launched wide-ranging investigations into many of the “feeder funds” that put client money with Bernie Madoff. BNY Mellon’s Madoff feeder funds for which Robert Mueller had a financial interest remained completely untouched by the FBI and DOJ.

These facts spark suspicions that Mueller intentionally turned a blind eye to wrongdoing at the BNY Mellon fund, in order to protect his financial interest in the fund."

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"In 2013, Mueller was invested with a fund of funds called Mellon Optima. Mellon Optima invested a portion its funds in Karsch Capital a fund managed by Michael Karsh, who worked for Soros Fund Management before leaving the firm in 2000, according to Reuters. Stanley Druckenmiller, the trader who infamously broke the Bank of England, netting over$1 billionin a single day when he worked alongside George Soros, personally provided seed capital to Karsch Capital.

SEC Disclosures reveal that the fund of funds that Mueller holds, Mellon Optima, also invested in Highbridge Long/Short Equity Fund. Alec McAree, who is the Managing Director of Highbridge, previously worked as a Managing Director for Soros Fund Management according to a Highbridge press release.

Alex Soros, son of hedge fund billionaire and anti-Trump money-man George Soros, revealed his close relationship with New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman in an Instagram post. Politico previously reported that Mueller has teamed up with New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman’s office. Sources told Politico that Schneiderman is currently working together with Mueller in an investigation regarding the financial dealings of President Trump and members of the 2016 Trump Campaign.

Many are questioning how Schneiderman could possibly carry out or assist with an impartial investigation in regards to President Trump, given his clear ties to George Soros and well-documented tendency towards partisanship.

In 2006 the Department of Energy, which oversees the United States’ nuclear technology, confiscated highly enriched uranium from a smuggling operation involving one Russian firm and several Georgian companies.

In August 2009, Wikileaks released a classified State Department cable which showed the details of this transfer of highly enriched uranium.

The Hill recently reported that as soon as Hillary Clinton became Obama’s Secretary of State, FBI counterintelligence agents observed Russian operatives successfully attempting to gain influence with Bill and Hillary Clinton’s inner circle. The activity that took place appeared to be criminal in nature, according to FBI counterintelligence agents familiar with the matter.

Russia requested a ten-gram sample of a batch of highly enriched uranium (HEU) seized in early 2006 in Georgia during a nuclear smuggling sting operation involving one Russian national and several Georgian co-conspirators. The seized uranium was transferred to U.S. custody and was being held at a secure Department of Energy facility. In response to the Russian request, the Georgian Government authorized the United States to share a sample of the material with the Russians for forensic analysis.

Wikileaks showed as early as 2009 that Hillary Clinton’s state department began facilitating the transport of samples of high enriched uranium to members of the Russia’s intelligence service, the FSB. The person tasked to transport the highly enriched uranium to the FSB was none other than Robert Mueller.

Wikileaks’ release of classified State Department wires showed in part:

“Director Mueller previously planned to deliver the sample in April (Ref A), but due to a scheduling conflict the trip was canceled. Embassy Moscow LegAtt informed the FSB prior to Mueller’s intended April delivery and received confirmation that the FSB would take custody of the sample after the Director’s plane landed. EST Moscow also informed Rosatom of the planned transfer and that the U.S. placed a high priority on completing this transfer (Ref B). Once the LegAtt told FSB counterparts the April trip had been canceled, Ambassador Beyrle informed Igor Neverov (Ref C), who said that he understood but was disappointed the trip was postponed. The September 21 visit provides again an opportunity to deliver the requested ten-gram sample from the seized HEU in order to obtain cooperation from the GOR on this nuclear smuggling case and to eventually establish a more productive mechanism of U.S.-Russian cooperation on nuclear forensics.”

Other dealings with Russia were mentioned in similar cables released by Wikileaks.

Mueller’s role in dealing with the Russian government in Uranium transfers, which have been investigated and may currently be under investigation by the FBI raises questions over his ability to serve as the Special Prosecutor tasked with investigating Russia."

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Man the more I read the more I'm convinced Mueller is shady as all get out. Wow. Just wow. No wonder he was chosen for this investigation!

If all fails, just link the person with the far right's boogieman nightmare George Soras
 
At this point I'd pardon Flynn if I was Trump. IMO he has been treated unfairly here. And the fact that the FBI is not releasing the FISA documentation and the REAL reason why this guy was kicked off the team is beyond troubling
 
How does one with his military background come up with a minimum $10 million for a hedge-fund investment?

http://offendedamerica.com/robert-mueller-invested-hedge-funds-linked-russia-george-soros/

Robert Mueller Invested In Hedge Funds Linked to Russia and George Soros

". . . Mueller’s exclusive hedge funds were not open to the general public, but rather wealthy private accredited investors. The minimum investment in several of the funds is $10 Million.

Mueller has been an investor in Mellon Optima L/S Strategy Fund, LLC for many years, according to his financial disclosures. That fund consists of holdings of other hedge funds in a structure commonly referred to as a “fund of funds”.

According to 2017 SEC Filings, one of the funds held by the Mellon Optima L/S Strategy Fund is the OCCO Eastern European Fund, run by Charlemagne Capital. The fund released a performance overview on August 31st that said in part:

“August was a relatively quiet month for markets and a strong one for the portfolio. The NAV gained 142 bps over the month. Russia was again the main driver with supportive contributions from other markets.”

The OCCO Eastern European Fund also stated in late August 2017 that “Our single largest position at ten percent total gross exposure is the 5% long position in Novatek paired with a cash neutral short position in Gazprom.” This means that the fund is betting against Russia’s state-owned natural gas company, Gazprom, while going long Gazprom’s main competitor Novatek, which is the largest non-state owned natural gas company in Russia.

According to Charlemagne Capital, the OCCO Eastern European Fund is based in the Cayman Islands and is has a net-long position in the Russian markets. This means that Robert Mueller gains financially if the Russian market does well. The OCCO Eastern European Fund also has long and short positions in Poland, Romania, and Kazakhstan. The fund’s prime brokers are Goldman Sachs and Credit Suisse.

Robert Mueller isn’t the only person investigating Russia with financial interests in Russia. California Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking member of the House intelligence committee, reported owning at least $16,000 of Russia-linked investments on his most recent financial disclosure.

Mueller’s investments in Russia could present a clear conflict of interest in how he carries out his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 President Election."

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"Another hedge fund that Robert Mueller disclosed owning was Defenders Multi-Strategy Hedge Fund, LLC. This hedge fund wass run by William P. Sauer, who has been sued by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) for running two separate Ponzi Schemes. Sauer ultimately settled the lawsuits for $5 million.

This hedge fund did business under 4 different names during its 9 years of existence.

1. 2002‐2004: Ivy Multi‐Strategy Hedge Fund LLC
2. 2004‐2009: BNY Ivy Multi‐Strategy Hedge Fund LLC
3. 2009‐2010: Defenders Multi‐Strategy Hedge Fund LLC
4. 2010‐2011: Ivy Asset Management LLC

“Ivy Asset Management”, as it was known at the time, fed clients into Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi Scheme and eventually paid $200 million to settle complaints associated with alleged misconduct surrounding this investment. The FBI never investigated any of the people or entities associated with the Defenders Multistrategy hedge fund or other funds that Mueller has invested in.

The hedge fund at the center of these allegations of wrongdoing never faced investigations from the FBI, and produced profits for Robert Mueller, who headed up the FBI when the allegations were made, prompting the SEC began their investigation.

The US Department of Justice launched wide-ranging investigations into many of the “feeder funds” that put client money with Bernie Madoff. BNY Mellon’s Madoff feeder funds for which Robert Mueller had a financial interest remained completely untouched by the FBI and DOJ.

These facts spark suspicions that Mueller intentionally turned a blind eye to wrongdoing at the BNY Mellon fund, in order to protect his financial interest in the fund."

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"In 2013, Mueller was invested with a fund of funds called Mellon Optima. Mellon Optima invested a portion its funds in Karsch Capital a fund managed by Michael Karsh, who worked for Soros Fund Management before leaving the firm in 2000, according to Reuters. Stanley Druckenmiller, the trader who infamously broke the Bank of England, netting over$1 billionin a single day when he worked alongside George Soros, personally provided seed capital to Karsch Capital.

SEC Disclosures reveal that the fund of funds that Mueller holds, Mellon Optima, also invested in Highbridge Long/Short Equity Fund. Alec McAree, who is the Managing Director of Highbridge, previously worked as a Managing Director for Soros Fund Management according to a Highbridge press release.

Alex Soros, son of hedge fund billionaire and anti-Trump money-man George Soros, revealed his close relationship with New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman in an Instagram post. Politico previously reported that Mueller has teamed up with New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman’s office. Sources told Politico that Schneiderman is currently working together with Mueller in an investigation regarding the financial dealings of President Trump and members of the 2016 Trump Campaign.

Many are questioning how Schneiderman could possibly carry out or assist with an impartial investigation in regards to President Trump, given his clear ties to George Soros and well-documented tendency towards partisanship.

In 2006 the Department of Energy, which oversees the United States’ nuclear technology, confiscated highly enriched uranium from a smuggling operation involving one Russian firm and several Georgian companies.

In August 2009, Wikileaks released a classified State Department cable which showed the details of this transfer of highly enriched uranium.

The Hill recently reported that as soon as Hillary Clinton became Obama’s Secretary of State, FBI counterintelligence agents observed Russian operatives successfully attempting to gain influence with Bill and Hillary Clinton’s inner circle. The activity that took place appeared to be criminal in nature, according to FBI counterintelligence agents familiar with the matter.

Russia requested a ten-gram sample of a batch of highly enriched uranium (HEU) seized in early 2006 in Georgia during a nuclear smuggling sting operation involving one Russian national and several Georgian co-conspirators. The seized uranium was transferred to U.S. custody and was being held at a secure Department of Energy facility. In response to the Russian request, the Georgian Government authorized the United States to share a sample of the material with the Russians for forensic analysis.

Wikileaks showed as early as 2009 that Hillary Clinton’s state department began facilitating the transport of samples of high enriched uranium to members of the Russia’s intelligence service, the FSB. The person tasked to transport the highly enriched uranium to the FSB was none other than Robert Mueller.

Wikileaks’ release of classified State Department wires showed in part:

“Director Mueller previously planned to deliver the sample in April (Ref A), but due to a scheduling conflict the trip was canceled. Embassy Moscow LegAtt informed the FSB prior to Mueller’s intended April delivery and received confirmation that the FSB would take custody of the sample after the Director’s plane landed. EST Moscow also informed Rosatom of the planned transfer and that the U.S. placed a high priority on completing this transfer (Ref B). Once the LegAtt told FSB counterparts the April trip had been canceled, Ambassador Beyrle informed Igor Neverov (Ref C), who said that he understood but was disappointed the trip was postponed. The September 21 visit provides again an opportunity to deliver the requested ten-gram sample from the seized HEU in order to obtain cooperation from the GOR on this nuclear smuggling case and to eventually establish a more productive mechanism of U.S.-Russian cooperation on nuclear forensics.”

Other dealings with Russia were mentioned in similar cables released by Wikileaks.

Mueller’s role in dealing with the Russian government in Uranium transfers, which have been investigated and may currently be under investigation by the FBI raises questions over his ability to serve as the Special Prosecutor tasked with investigating Russia."

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Man the more I read the more I'm convinced Mueller is shady as all get out. Wow. Just wow. No wonder he was chosen for this investigation!
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Lol.

He never gets dubs no matter what he does.

The dude attacked the victims of the church shooting and had nothing done to him. I think he has a dossier on the Mods
 
What a waste of space you are on this forum, I think I'm going to start tattling on you like you did Ripskater for posting off topic gifs.
Those are all responses to posts. What's the matter, you don't speak gif? Ok, I'll help you out.


1. I think Splendica's post was impossibly stupid, and certainly not to be taken seriously.

2. I think Fawlty's post was funny, and a good burn.

3. I don't understand what Overpressure is saying. It seems he's swallowed some Alt-Reich propaganda.

4. I think Mueller might have the balls to actually bring charges against a sitting President.


Hope this helps.
 
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