Crime Cops shoot and kill man during "red flag" gun removal order

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Right wingers: who decides who is unfit to have a gun and serve these orders?!
Left wingers: another far right mental case who should never have been allowed to own guns

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maryla...ag-gun-removal-order-fatally-shoot-armed-man/

FERNDALE, Md. -- Two police officers ordered to remove firearms from a house on a "red flag" protective order fatally shot an armed man Monday morning in Ferndale, Maryland, police said. Anne Arundel County Police arrived at the house at 5:17 a.m. to remove guns from the home under a new law that temporarily allows for the seizure of firearms if a person shows "red flags" that they are a danger to themselves or others, CBS Baltimore reports.


A man, later identified by police as 61-year-old Gary Willis, answered his door with a gun in his hand, Anne Arundel County Police Sgt. Jacklyn Davis said.

Sgt. Davis said the man put the gun down. But then, according to a police press release, Willis "became irate" when officers attempted to serve the order. Willis picked the weapon up again, "a fight ensued over the gun," and a shot was fired, Davis said. The first shot didn't strike anyone, but the officers then fatally shot the man, Sgt. Davis said.

Neither of the officers were injured. Their names weren't released.

It wasn't clear why the "red flag" order was issued. A spokeswoman for the Maryland Judiciary denied a request from the Baltimore Sun to release protection order requests associated with the home, citing the law which states the orders are confidential unless a court rules otherwise.

Michele Willis, the man's niece, told The Baltimore Sun that one of her aunts requested the protective order against Willis, but she declined to say why.


She said police stopped by the home to speak with her uncle Sunday night. He lived above the garage and several other family members also lived in the home. Those who were there during the shooting were being questioned by police Monday morning, The Sun reported.

Willis said her uncle "likes to speak his mind," but "wouldn't hurt anybody."

"I'm just dumbfounded right now," she said. "They didn't need to do what they did."

Maryland is one of several states that passed "red flag" laws since the high school mass shooting in Parkland, Florida, earlier this year. Maryland's law, which went into effect Oct. 1, is more broad in that it allows certain health care providers to seek an order, in addition to family members and law enforcement.
 
I guess when 2A supporters say over my cold dead body, they mean it.

Who would have thought.
 
My guess is that this guy was spouting off about shooting people considering his niece's comment as bout "liked to speak his mind, but wouldn't hurt anyone".

Don't pick up guns and get irate when cops show up at your front door after getting a call about your mental health...that's a good place to start.
 
Yea. So whats in the middle then. What's the compromise?

This story also sounds weird. As in did the man put that flag up or do other people? Never heard of this shit before, what's the deal with that?
 
If someone is legit crazy, and the police come knocking for his guns, what are the odds someone doesn't get killed?
 
Don't know how legit the order to take away the gun was, but the guy acted the fool and got himself shot.
 
I'll help out
Right wingers: who decides who is unfit to have a gun and serve these orders?!
Left wingers: another far right mental case who should never have been allowed to own guns

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maryla...ag-gun-removal-order-fatally-shoot-armed-man/

FERNDALE, Md. -- Two police officers ordered to remove firearms from a house on a "red flag" protective order fatally shot an armed man Monday morning in Ferndale, Maryland, police said. Anne Arundel County Police arrived at the house at 5:17 a.m. to remove guns from the home under a new law that temporarily allows for the seizure of firearms if a person shows "red flags" that they are a danger to themselves or others, CBS Baltimore reports.


A man, later identified by police as 61-year-old Gary Willis, answered his door with a gun in his hand, Anne Arundel County Police Sgt. Jacklyn Davis said.

Sgt. Davis said the man put the gun down. But then, according to a police press release, Willis "became irate" when officers attempted to serve the order. Willis picked the weapon up again, "a fight ensued over the gun," and a shot was fired, Davis said. The first shot didn't strike anyone, but the officers then fatally shot the man, Sgt. Davis said.

Neither of the officers were injured. Their names weren't released.

It wasn't clear why the "red flag" order was issued. A spokeswoman for the Maryland Judiciary denied a request from the Baltimore Sun to release protection order requests associated with the home, citing the law which states the orders are confidential unless a court rules otherwise.

Michele Willis, the man's niece, told The Baltimore Sun that one of her aunts requested the protective order against Willis, but she declined to say why.


She said police stopped by the home to speak with her uncle Sunday night. He lived above the garage and several other family members also lived in the home. Those who were there during the shooting were being questioned by police Monday morning, The Sun reported.

Willis said her uncle "likes to speak his mind," but "wouldn't hurt anybody."

"I'm just dumbfounded right now," she said. "They didn't need to do what they did."

Maryland is one of several states that passed "red flag" laws since the high school mass shooting in Parkland, Florida, earlier this year. Maryland's law, which went into effect Oct. 1, is more broad in that it allows certain health care providers to seek an order, in addition to family members and law enforcement.
Such orders are ripe for abuse. People - including family members - with an axe to grind can just sick the police on a person they don't like.
 
99% of the time if you just cooperate you'll be perfectly fine. Dude could have shown that he was stable, given up his guns for a while until this was sorted out, and been on his way. Instead he showed that he was exactly what they feared.
 
So they just take the guns and do nothing with the person in question? (Well this time they shot him)

Like that wouldn’t just piss off the person more. If this law was just meant to curb suicides or protect others. Why wouldnt they place them in a temp mental facility?

Stupid fucking law.
 
All the anti gunners in the state should just report everyone they know that owns guns

Easiest way to drastically lower the number of guns
 
I'd like to know exactly what he did for the cops to come confiscate his guns in the first place, but his actions during the encounter showed that they might have been justified in doing so. He should have just complied in that situation, RIP.
 
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Says it was related to a protection order so clearly the dude did something to warrant a judge issuing a restraining order against him. Confiscating guns is sometimes part of restraining orders, particularly for domestic violence orders.

The confidentiality part is for the victim in the restraining order so victims don’t have to fear having the details of their being victimized released to the public if they report something.
 
I'll help out
Right wingers: who decides who is unfit to have a gun and serve these orders?!
Left wingers: another far right mental case who should never have been allowed to own guns

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maryla...ag-gun-removal-order-fatally-shoot-armed-man/

FERNDALE, Md. -- Two police officers ordered to remove firearms from a house on a "red flag" protective order fatally shot an armed man Monday morning in Ferndale, Maryland, police said. Anne Arundel County Police arrived at the house at 5:17 a.m. to remove guns from the home under a new law that temporarily allows for the seizure of firearms if a person shows "red flags" that they are a danger to themselves or others, CBS Baltimore reports.


A man, later identified by police as 61-year-old Gary Willis, answered his door with a gun in his hand, Anne Arundel County Police Sgt. Jacklyn Davis said.

Sgt. Davis said the man put the gun down. But then, according to a police press release, Willis "became irate" when officers attempted to serve the order. Willis picked the weapon up again, "a fight ensued over the gun," and a shot was fired, Davis said. The first shot didn't strike anyone, but the officers then fatally shot the man, Sgt. Davis said.

Neither of the officers were injured. Their names weren't released.

It wasn't clear why the "red flag" order was issued. A spokeswoman for the Maryland Judiciary denied a request from the Baltimore Sun to release protection order requests associated with the home, citing the law which states the orders are confidential unless a court rules otherwise.

Michele Willis, the man's niece, told The Baltimore Sun that one of her aunts requested the protective order against Willis, but she declined to say why.


She said police stopped by the home to speak with her uncle Sunday night. He lived above the garage and several other family members also lived in the home. Those who were there during the shooting were being questioned by police Monday morning, The Sun reported.

Willis said her uncle "likes to speak his mind," but "wouldn't hurt anybody."

"I'm just dumbfounded right now," she said. "They didn't need to do what they did."

Maryland is one of several states that passed "red flag" laws since the high school mass shooting in Parkland, Florida, earlier this year. Maryland's law, which went into effect Oct. 1, is more broad in that it allows certain health care providers to seek an order, in addition to family members and law enforcement.
I fought the law and the law won.
 
So they just take the guns and do nothing with the person in question? (Well this time they shot him)

Like that wouldn’t just piss off the person more. If this law was just meant to curb suicides or protect others. Why wouldnt they place them in a temp mental facility?

Stupid fucking law.
It was in regards to a protection order if I read correctly. So it would be to protect others.
 
They arrived at 5:17am? To be fair I think I woulda gotten shot in that situation too
 
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