How big was tupac back then?

[BisexualMMA]

He wasn't that big until he started to pretend he was from Oakland. Previously his name was MC New York.

His rhymes were always simple and one of the worst beat pickers in hip hop.

Worst beats?

Hit em Up
Hellrazor
Soon As I Get Home
Part Time Mutha
Can't C Me
R U Still Down
California Love

 

[looktwice]

Tupac was great, man. Rap has pretty much sucked since his death.

 

[ithinktheymad]

He wasn't that big until he started to pretend he was from Oakland. Previously his name was MC New York.

His rhymes were always simple and one of the worst beat pickers in hip hop.

The arrogance.

 

[DeJulez]

Worst beats?

Hit em Up
Hellrazor
Soon As I Get Home
Part Time Mutha
Can't C Me
R U Still Down
California Love

Add on Temptations, which to me is one of the greatest beats of all time.
If I die 2nite, Check out Time, High til I die, Me Against the World.

I heard Vlad say something that I kinda agree with and thought about myself sometimes, that Nas was one of the worst beat pickers in rap history.
He did pick some dumb beats in the late 90s after Illmatic.

 

[Estemachine]

Biggie > Tupac

 

[mrbaapt]

Oh this guy fuckin sucks.
@JustOnce ignore this man for he knows not what he speaks.

The sexual assault, I think is bullshit, its been documented enough.

He was convicted shit head.

His lyrics touched more people than anyone else ever had in the rap genre, and you could debate out of any genres.
Was he lyrical like Lord Finesse or Nas? Of course not.
I hate to say the poet stuff, but his writings are more of that nature, but it carries alot more weight than some of the more lyrical rappers.

No.

Also him shooting the two cops, he didn't know they were cops and he did it after he witnessed two white guys beating up a black man.
The two cops were off-duty, drunk, and were using a handgun that was stolen from evidence. Its why the case was dismissed.

Yet the facts remain as I stated.

As for the westcoast stuff. He moved to Marin county and its where his rap career really took off, so he represented that area.
He was in NYC and Baltimore all the time. It was when the Biggie stuff happened that it really drove the whole West vs East, but he always maintained that hes from New York.

Greatest of all Time

Most overrated posthumously of all time.

People who worship Tupac immediately show their limited knowledge of music.

 

[Midnighter]

He was huge.

Becoming a crossover star with music/film.

Definitely became bigger after death, but most artists do.

 

[DeJulez]

He was convicted shit head.


No.



Yet the facts remain as I stated.




Most overrated posthumously of all time.

People who worship Tupac immediately show their limited knowledge of music.

And OJ wasn't convicted but I assume that most think he did it.
The facts are the facts as I also stated, regarding the police shooting

And they have his face painted on walls in Israel and other parts of the world
The man is pretty widely celebrated.

Name me the top 5 rappers ever according to you

 

[ithinktheymad]

Worst beats?

Hit em Up
Hellrazor
Soon As I Get Home
Part Time Mutha
Can't C Me
R U Still Down
California Love

Keep Ya Head Up
Changes
Brenda's Got A Baby
Ambitionz Az A Ridah
Hail Mary
Smile
Shed So Many Tears
Picture Me Rollin'
I Get Around

 

[Liquid Smoke]

I always thought Humpty was the bigger star.

 

[mrbaapt]

Tupac was great, man. Rap has pretty much sucked since his death.

Kendrick & Lupe have made more powerful and meaningful music than Tupac did in his entire career.

 

[jimmas99]

Add on Temptations, which to me is one of the greatest beats of all time.
If I die 2nite, Check out Time, High til I die, Me Against the World.

I heard Vlad say something that I kinda agree with and thought about myself sometimes, that Nas was one of the worst beat pickers in rap history.
He did pick some dumb beats in the late 90s after Illmatic.

Yeah, Nas is problebly the worst beat pickers in the game considering his rap talent.

 

[Midnighter]

Kendrick & Lupe have made more powerful and meaningful music than Tupac did in his entire career.

Pac started the civil rights movement.

 

[90 50]

I thought Humpty was the bigger star.

When humpty dance came out digital underground was way bigger than PAC.

Hell dmx was way bigger and more influential than PAC.

Pac’s Best known for dying.

 

[PlayswellwithLawnDarts]

Gifuckingnormous mang.
You heard it everywhere....

 

[Liquid Smoke]

Pac started the civil rights movement.

Pac said "I have a dream" before Kenny Florian did.

 

[PlayswellwithLawnDarts]

People say Nirvana only got big because their lead singer killed himself.. that’s bullshit. ‘Nevermind’ was Beatles fucking mania V2.


Tupac? He was decently popular while alive.. but his popularity definitely hit overdrive after he was killed. And part of that was due to how he died, and Biggie dying not long after and it’s connection to Pacs death. No one put him at ‘GOAT’ status while he was alive tho. That shit came after he croaked.

That’s right a suicide

 

[MescalineDreams]

 

[MescalineDreams]

When humpty dance came out digital underground was way bigger than PAC.

Hell dmx was way bigger and more influential than PAC.

Pac’s Best known for dying.

 

[MescalineDreams]

He was convicted shit head.


No.



Yet the facts remain as I stated.




Most overrated posthumously of all time.

People who worship Tupac immediately show their limited knowledge of music.

people who underrate tupac probably haven't even listened to 30% of the music he made. Nor understood the messages

He was deep as fuck.

very complicated / complex personality and soul.

Misunderstood by some, often simple minded people.

He was a revolutionary and a poet, speaking truths more than a "rapper"