Out of the 7 MMA All-Time GOATs - Who's the most overrated fighter?

[markg171]

Did u ever see a doctor about your arse bleeding since oct 2018?

Funny, you appear to be the only one butthurt here.

No that's not the reason I did that. He's definitely one of the GOATs in MMA don't you agree? I think he's a phenomenal fighter and his undefeated streak reflects that.

The question about Khabib and why I believe people are picking him more is because he still had a lot more to give. None of those other guys that are named in this group retired in their primes. Khabib is the only one. He definitely will get more attention because of that.

I don't agree at all. Talent wise perhaps sure, accomplishment wise absolutely not and that's all that matters for GOAT discussions.

I mean, Usman right now literally has a longer undefeated UFC streak, longer defence streak, and won the belt off the champ. He's not a GOAT either though, and would likewise be getting chosen the most for this poll just like Khabib is. Because they're in a pretty clear 2nd tier category to everybody else in the poll (especially Usman given GSP's there).

 

[DespicablePeep]

Kabab great fighter but not enough title defenses to be goat, maybe he will come back and change that

 

[Pious Augustus]

you wrong

No

 

[Pious Augustus]

Anderson Silva made a career of beating B level fighters (WW Maia, Cote, Leites, Sonnen) and has crumbled against every elite he has faced (Weidman, DC, Adesanya)
so he's the most overrated
I would never ever consider him a greater fighter than Weidman when I've seen him getting destroyed twice by Chris with my own eyes, I don't care if he beat 70 B level fighters in matches regulated for a belt (title defenses)

Fedor made a career of beating B level fighters (Zuluzinho, Lindland, Hong Man Choi, Maldonado) and has crumbled against every elite he has faced (Henderson, Werdum, Bader)
so he's the most overrated
I would never ever consider him a greater fighter than Hendo when I've seen him getting destroyed by a middleweight with my own eyes, I don't care if he beat 70 B level fighters in matches regulated for a belt (title defenses)

See how lame the game your playing is? Everyone can talk shit about every opponent to fit their narrative.

Solid points Silva is definitely overrated, but he was never "destroyed" by Weidman

 

[CJrider]

They all exhibited unbelievable dominance during their era's. None are over-rated in my opinion.

I'd absolutely argue that Aldo and Johnson are under rated with the way they were treated in the UFC, where Max was suddenly the GOAT for beating an aging Aldo (after Mcgregor already did it). Max is unbelievable and definitely #2 in the division right now but he also went 3-3 immediately after winning the title so the Aldo disrespect was heavy.

Johnson didn't draw and the UFC hated him for it.

 

[Pious Augustus]

Being well rounded does not make you invincible.
Other fighters too are well rounded,and also...
A specialist can survive.

why would you put a fighter above another just because he's well rounded then

 

[Pious Augustus]

Are Michael Johnson, Iaquinta, Tibau, Healy top fighters too?

Prime Mendes is easily better than Gaethje btw

no, RDA, Gaethje, Poirer, McGregor are top fighters.

Gaethje ended one of the greatest LW of all time in Tony Ferguson he also has wins over Barboza, Prime Johnson, and Cerrone what's Mendes' best win? Lamas and Elkins? lol at "easily better than Gaethje"

 

[Pious Augustus]

Faber has more title defenses than Volk, Holloway and Conor.

that's why title defenses don't mean anything, because we know he was never on their level

 

[LoveMyMMA]

None of these fighters are overrated.
All this poll shows is who’s the most hated GOAT on this forum.

 

[bambammccoy]

That is not true.

It is not implying luck at all.

Some people are just different fighters in the gym than they are in the cage. In the cage, Anderson is in the zone,the flow state.

Fair enough.

Hard pick tbh

 

[The Chosen]

DJ for sure, he isn’t that good and just got starched in a lesser promotion

 

[The Chosen]

I chose “none are overrated.” Closest would be Khabib because his resume is a bit thin, but dude was always dominant as fuck, and does have some dominant as fuck wins against some great fighters. The fighters in this poll are all GOATS of their divisions. Hard to overrate the greatest of all time.

You’re saying DJ has a more stacked resume than Khabib?

 

[DoNoootin]

Ya mum

 

[Bouboumaster]

I went with Anderson Silva, for 2 reasons:

- He has a lot of filler on his resume: Maia, Leites, Cote, among others

- He's a PED Cheat


I mean, it's difficult to pick one in that list, but if I had to call one a bit overrated, it would be him.

Runner-up is Khabib, who went to clean up the LW divison, which is mighty impressive, but most of his victories was against unknown dudes

Other runner-up is Jon Jones, who has the second best resume ever (after GSP) but he's also the worst cheater in UFC's History. If not for the cheating, he would probably the GOAT.

 

[imbossing]

Khabib

 

[M.U.S.C.L.E.]

Yes, they are.

Not that he's really overrated, but the most so in that group so I choose Anderson because while he had a very dominant run in the UFC, the only win he had against what I'd call a 'great' fighter is Dan Henderson. Rich is close to that too but just a shade below.

Cote, Leites, Marquardt, Leben, Bonnar, Maia, Okami, etc are all B level guys. MW was so weak during this period, probably the biggest threat to Anderson during this time was Mousasi and it was still a while before he came to the UFC.

Once middleweight developed, and Anderson got older, he looked terrible. Add in the PED failures and he's the most overrated of the group.

Agreed. And if we're being honest, Bisping has greater victories on his resume than Anderson.
Also, Michael Bisping fought multiple GOATS on this list.
Michael Bisping the true GOAT.

 

[weaselkenievil]

My vote - none are overrated. Glad to see that is winning so far. The only people who over/under rate these legends are idiots. If you can’t see greatness in that bunch you need to stfu and delete your account.

and thanks to pfp poll goat @MXZT

 

[BFoe]

You’re saying DJ has a more stacked resume than Khabib?

It’s an interesting question, but yeah I think MM’s resume is deeper. Since we’re discussing overall GOAT and not just being FLW GOAT, we can include any good wins MM had at 135.
The Mouse: Cejudo, Benavidez x 2, Kid Yamamoto, McCall, Dodson x 2, Horiguchi. Plus some “decent” wins like Miguel Torres, Elliott, Moraga, and Domacio Page. Reis maybe?

The Eagle: Gaethje, Poirier, Conor, RDA, Barboza.
“Decent” wins would be Iaquinta, Tibau I guess although it’s controversial, Trujillo, Michael Johnson. Maybe Healy?
So that’s 8 high level wins for Mouse, 5 for Khabib. Both have 4-5 decent wins. I think Mouse takes it.

Everyone ranks GOATs differently, and it’s tough with PED failures and stuff like that. I rank GOATs based on resume and accomplishments. So for me it would be something like:

1. Fedor
2. GSP
3. Jones
4. Silva
5. Aldo
6. Mouse
7. Cruz
8. Khabib

Nothing against Khabib—I’m a big fan, and really I’m a fan of all these guys except maybe Jones lol— but I don’t think his resume stacks up to the others overall. He retired 3-4 fights too soon. Hmm I might put Cruz above MM. I’d have to really look at it.

 

[Shaddows]

Khabib should not be in this list IMHO, so he gets my vote.

He is more a "could have been"... but then again, so was Cain... or even Lesnar for that matter (IMHO, of course).

 

[Tevfik1907]

Seeing the Khabib haters and Conor fans is always entertaining.

P4P best = If you eliminate the size differences, who is the best fighter? It doesn't need to be long line of title defenses, that's a made up criteria. You can have only 1 title fight and best P4P ever based on the ability to beat anyone if you are the same size.

Can Khabib haters say, Khabib has no chance against this guy, if they are the same size?

Khabib can beat anyone if they are the same size, that's what makes him the GOAT, P4P Best.

Khabib's size is pretty average for general Lightweight sizes, his reach is even shorter than most Lightweights, he has shorter reach than even Featherweight Volkanovski, despite not having any size advantage, he dominated everyone. Which is why he can beat anyone if they are the same size.

And still Khabib haters and Conor fans are talking about title defenses?

Khabib explains how UFC robbed him from a title shot in 2016, and gave it to Conor instead:
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...in-2016-and-gave-it-to-conor-instead.4194685/

It's UFC's fault that they made Khabib wait for 2 years to get his title fights. It was Khabib vs. UFC, and Khabib won. No fighter experienced that so you can't use it against Khabib. Khabib haters and Conor fans can keep sing the same song while acting like they don't know anything about that, but at the same time they always remember the title defense numbers but they don't remember how UFC made Khabib wait for 2 years...

Jones can't be because he is a giant for their own weight divisions, Ngannou said Jones is the same size as him, Jones's reach is even longer than Ngannou's reach, and Jones never faced someone as big as himself in the octagon. Not even mention the USADA problems. If he wins the heavyweight belt, which is his natural weight class, then he would be in the discussion again, still USADA though.

-Jose Aldo fails whenever he faces someone who is good; Conor, Holloway, Petr Yan, Volkanovski, he lost against all of these guys, he has 0 wins.

-GSP was never even P4P No.1, mostly decision machine, waited and cherry picked Bisping to return to fight, KOed by Serra, and lost to Hendricks.

-Silva dominated when there wasn't any good wrestlers in his division, lost to Weidman twice including the first one was a clean KO the other was just being unlucky still he got KOed by Weidman, he also had problem with USADA.

-Fedor never even fought in UFC.

DJ = Never faced the most elite level competition, the top divisions; Lightweight, Welterweight, Featherweight, then middleweights, then bantamweight, and lastly Light-heavy, heavy and flyweights.