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By never losing.
both gsp and fedor got beaten
well if your post makes you feel better il support you
more than a decade you feel angry and mad at jones
how cruel it is too see him win always
his resume cannot be surpassed in this lifetime
you will be angry everytime you see jones haha
And Gustafsson.
I am telling you they never popped.So are you telling me you wholeheartedly believe Fedor and GSP never used PEDs because they never popped?
Size matters. DC was like 250 lbs for Bigfoot fight, fedor was 230 lbs.So why did bigfoot beat fedor then lose to Dc?
Come on man use your brain
I agree with you.Jones would've likely still been able to become champ, but saying he'd be just as great is nonsense.
And who are these people saying he'd be just as great?
What rule are you talking about? The two things that pop to mind are the eye pokes and coming out crawling (downed fighter rules). Neither of those resulted in the UFC changing their rules because the UFC doesn’t make the ruleset, commissions do. Even then though, the gloves to prevent eye pokes didn’t come out until 2023, way after anything with Jon and that had been harped on by lots of people in lots of fights for years. The downed opponent rule changes weren’t even universal and are still all over the place.Jones had the possibility of being the GOAT. The PEDs disqualifies him from ever being that, but besides that, the fact that he always fought so dirty is another mark against him. I know people will defend it, but the fact is - Jon is the only fighter in newer times that forced UFC to change their rules because he was fighting so dirty (I believe only 2 other fighters have the same honor - Keith Hackney and the nut shots on Joe Son, and Tank when he tried to throw his opponent over the top of the octagon).
Then the fact that Jon has had the physical advantage on all but maybe 1 of his opponents. This is not really Jon's fault - he is what scientists would come up with in a laboratory if they wanted to build the perfect fighter.
What Jon could do to prove himself in my eyes, is fight some worthy opponents at HW where his physical advantage wont be the determining factor in a fight. I am not really impressed with the Gane win - a wrestler against a point fighter with zero grappling skills*shrug*. Stipe is a fantastic fighter, and had it been 5-6 years ago, it would be a great match-up. Now Stipe has fought 4 times in 6 years - losing 2 of those fights.
Conspiracy theory : I have said this before, and here it is again - I believe Jon has been on steroids since he was a kid/teenager. We know both Jon's brothers make millions in the NFL, and got busted for juicing. With the way we know Jon, what is the chance he did not juice? Knowing his brothers, what is the chance they did not help him do it?
Seems to me the “Is Jon GOAT” debate is getting stale. The reason is pretty easy to see. Fans who say PED violations disqualify a fighter from GOAT status reject Jon outright. Opposed to them are fans who say that Jon’s performance alone establishes that he is GOAT, regardless of PEDs.
(I’m talking about LHW GOAT or the more generic “one of the GOATs”. Either way as I’m framing it.)
So how about this:
Any Sherdoggers willing to say that PEDs are a negative, a mark against possible GOAT status, but that ON BALANCE, Jon is still GOAT?
Alternatively, any Sherdoggers who are honestly willing to overlook PED violations but say, “Hey, Jon STILL ain’t GOAT”?
I am talking about eyepokes.What rule are you talking about? The two things that pop to mind are the eye pokes and coming out crawling (downed fighter rules). Neither of those resulted in the UFC changing their rules because the UFC doesn’t make the ruleset, commissions do. Even then though, the gloves to prevent eye pokes didn’t come out until 2023, way after anything with Jon and that had been harped on by lots of people in lots of fights for years. The downed opponent rule changes weren’t even universal and are still all over the place.
Just trying to figure out if you’re talking about something else.
Dc was also 5”8 man whatSize matters. DC was like 250 lbs for Bigfoot fight, fedor was 230 lbs.
Trust me Bro science
And Fedor is 5'9''.......Whats your point?Dc was also 5”8 man what
Then how come big Timmy beat everybody?