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I completely agree with you. Focusing on complicated techniques makes for inefficient training. The straight forward approach to training that can be seen in most
I completely agree with you. Focusing on complicated techniques makes for inefficient training. The straight forward approach to training that can be seen in most
Of course some TMA's won't be as effective as the more popular MMA based styles (which are still technically TMAs like Muay Thai etc), but do you honestly think say a TMA fighter like a Kyokushin guy can't defend himself? If you think that then you are wayyyy too much into this "Ultimate Fighter" bullshit. You know, not all people are training to be world beaters who HAVE to be amazing strikers, submission artists and wrestlers in one package, some people are just happy training in one style or one TMA style and learning some self defense and practically + humbleness. I have been doing MT for close to 6 years now and MMA for 2 and am going to be getting into a Kyokushin off-shoot because I am looking for that humble attitude/formal approach that I feel like this tough guy bullshit fad is missing.
it really is amazing anyone can be over the age of 13 and still take tmas seriously
its amazing that you could post this after joshua's very well put post.:icon_chee
sounds like you can't finish an armbar
Of course some TMA's won't be as effective as the more popular MMA based styles (which are still technically TMAs like Muay Thai etc), but do you honestly think say a TMA fighter like a Kyokushin guy can't defend himself? If you think that then you are wayyyy too much into this "Ultimate Fighter" bullshit. You know, not all people are training to be world beaters who HAVE to be amazing strikers, submission artists and wrestlers in one package, some people are just happy training in one style or one TMA style and learning some self defense and practically + humbleness. I have been doing MT for close to 6 years now and MMA for 2 and am going to be getting into a Kyokushin off-shoot because I am looking for that humble attitude/formal approach that I feel like this tough guy bullshit fad is missing.
What makes something a TMA?
And how old does a martial art have to be
to be considered a TMA?
history, tradition, mostly opinions, etc. people consider Judo, Jeet Kune Do, Kyokushin karate, Hapkido TMA's, but look how long they've been around. boxing and wrestling have been around forever but most wouldn't consider them tma.
True.
The oldest styles of karate that exist today were created in the 20ies. (shotokan was formally founded in 39) kyokushin was founded in the mid 50ies)Most "traditions" in karate was created in the 30ies. The first and largest sport rules originates in the late 40ies. Little of the methods that existed in the pre-20ies "karate" survive.
And btw, all the founders of the moders styles of karate crosstrained in everything they could get their hands on (admittedly they had less of a choice than people today).
So what is there really that makes it "traditional".
Ofcourse, the ROOTS are older, but that is another thing entirely.
TMA is just a label people cannot really define if pressed on the issue.
Similarly I would not say that boxing&wrestling is the ancient sport people sometimes claim. Sure people have tested each other in grappling and striking forever, but how much skill has been preserved over the centuries as a system and how much of the modern sports are the results of re-invention?
Trust me, dirty those tactics and techniques those traditional idiot martial artists claim that's "too deadly for the ring" is full of bullcrap. Anyone of those mcdojo idiots try a dick grabbing, pinching, biting, eye poking shit on me, it gets me even more angrier and they are fucked!
I sparred with some dude that claims he's a karate expert, forgot what style, but he said he's a 8th degree black belt. I was beating his ass and he got pissed, tried to kick my balls. I saw that coming and I grabbed his leg, took him down, mounted his back, flatten him on the ground, and I kept bitch slapping the back of his head and made him say "karate sucks! karate sucks!" repeatedly. I did that for a good 2 minutes until I let him go.
You see, when those dirty tricks don't work, you'll get the other person even more angrier and you're fucked.
Of course some TMA's won't be as effective as the more popular MMA based styles (which are still technically TMAs like Muay Thai etc), but do you honestly think say a TMA fighter like a Kyokushin guy can't defend himself? If you think that then you are wayyyy too much into this "Ultimate Fighter" bullshit. You know, not all people are training to be world beaters who HAVE to be amazing strikers, submission artists and wrestlers in one package, some people are just happy training in one style or one TMA style and learning some self defense and practically + humbleness. I have been doing MT for close to 6 years now and MMA for 2 and am going to be getting into a Kyokushin off-shoot because I am looking for that humble attitude/formal approach that I feel like this tough guy bullshit fad is missing.
Ha, what's funny is when i was at Grudge which is considered one of colorado's top mma gyms the fighters or the coaches never scoffed when i told them i knew tkd or karate in fact it was quite the opposite they liked the skills i came in with alot and didnt want me to stop practicing them.
I don't think its so much the gyms but the larpers who are clinging to the MMA bandwagon who make the scene look like its filled with a bunch of ignorant and classless jack asses.
But this was bound to happen. Anytime a style became popular the bandwagoners hop on and proclaim it to be the best thing since shaved vagina and belittle anything else that isn't the new fad.
If this forum was around decades back we would have people proclaiming karate or ninjitsu is the only way to train and everything else is wrong! wrong! wrong!
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