Are you friends with females you’ve never slept with?

It’s actually also the law in most civilized places nowadays dude lol.

Do you really want to go back to a time when men could decide what women could and couldn’t do with their bodies?

You’d fit right in, in Pakistan you know.

I mean Pakistan is too extreme for me but they do follow God's word largely I believe and most will see the after life. Where as most westerners will not. I dont believe in hell though but yeah
I really honestly appreciate you giving me the heads up before sending it but I am a very liberal woman who is in her 40s, has had a lot of sexual partners and gave up on religion 20 years ago so your time is probably best spent not in my PM box.
May I ask how old you are?

I can just send you sources. I mean if you dont want fine. However, many texts exist especially from a Jewish and Islamic perspective. I mean for example the High Priest in Jewish law is to only have virgins along with in theory the entire priest class. So the notion that religion does not support virginity is not true and yes it is more important for women. Women have it easy they are just told to not be promiscious that is it. Men in religion have it worse and are more likely to sin and have to pray more and study. Women are seen as cleaner overall. Modern Christians are different in their now support for born againness and being less judgemental however this is historically against their old ways. I am in my 20s
 
You sound really mature.

You’re right about the part where having sex with a woman can often stop you from having a deeper friendship with them.

A lot of girls don’t want to hang out with you anymore if you sleep with them and don’t date them after. They don’t want you around scaring away future boyfriends or husbands or guys that take them seriously.

It’s the culture that we live in.

Something about the way I grew up taught me that banging chicks makes you a badass, and being in the friend zone makes you a loser.

Game of Thrones, sir Jorah Mormont and all that.

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Meanwhile Dario Naharis is smashing Dany on the low.

I think what I mean to say is that I know intellectually your ideas have a lot of merit.

But the primitive instinct of my brain disagrees.


I feel like it’s such a tragedy that I’ll only get to sleep with a tiny tiny fraction of all the beautiful women in the world in my pathetic short life that’s the blink of an eye.

Well, seeing as how I'm in my mid-50s, I've probably been on this planet for about twice as long as you have. So, I ought to be somewhat mature by now. LOL.

As far as wanting to make love to as many attractive women as humanly possible, we all have thoughts & urges like those. But there comes a point when you realize that it's not likely a sustainable way to go about life. Most of us begin to long for something more permanent at some point & the tradeoff for that is giving up the goal of having sex with as many women as possible.

Oh sure, there are some dudes who adhere to the adage that "variety is the spice of life" & they want to continue that lifestyle for as long as they possibly can. But you don't strike me as that sort of guy. I have a feeling that if you meet the right one you'll be able to give up the numbers game.

Me? I was never big on building up my numbers just for the hell of it. Not that I didn't have my fair share of brief flings & one night stands back in the day. I was no choirboy that's for sure, But I was always more of a long-term relationship type of guy. So, I meet someone & if we really clicked I'd find myself spending six months, a year, sometimes two years with someone. That went on through most of my 20s until a girl that I'd intended to just have a short fling with turned up pregnant on my doorstep one day as I approached thirty & although I wasn't really in love with her I spent close to eight years living with her. And we had two great kids together but the relationship came to an end & shortly afterward I met my first wife where I worked at the time.

It was an office romance that turned into a bit of a tumultuous ten-year marriage that produced my youngest daughter. I knew that the marriage was a mistake pretty early on but even though we couldn't seem to get along I did love her. So, we tried to keep things going for our daughter but we separated a couple of times before we finally decided to split up for good in 2012.

I spent much of the following five years working on myself by going back to college to get my Bachelor's degree & while I dated a little bit here & there, I wasn't looking for a relationship. Then, in 2017 I met my wife online & the rest is history. We've been pretty much inseparable ever since. Though, believe me, in the beginning, I had my doubts about whether or not she was too good to be true. I'd never had an online relationship before so I was a bit leery about getting catfished. I mean, here was this beautiful, hot, highly intelligent, well-educated chick who earned three times as much as I did at the time & who was 21 years younger than me. I was like "yeah, right..." But over time she gained my trust & when she began sending me expensive gifts I knew for sure that if she was a catfish then she was doing it all wrong. LOL. And of course, we face-timed a lot so I knew that she was who she said she was.

And fast forward to the present & we've been married for going on two years & I couldn't be happier. It took me almost 57 years to find the right relationship for me but I did it. So, there's plenty of hope for you, bro. Until then build those numbers up while you're waiting to find the right one. By all means, have fun. But just try to not sleep with your female friends. At least not the ones that you close to & care about.

Sorry for the length of this reply. I get carried away with my writing sometimes. Peace.
 
Well, seeing as how I'm in my mid-50s, I've probably been on this planet for about twice as long as you have. So, I ought to be somewhat mature by now. LOL.

As far as wanting to make love to as many attractive women as humanly possible, we all have thoughts & urges like those. But there comes a point when you realize that it's not likely a sustainable way to go about life. Most of us begin to long for something more permanent at some point & the tradeoff for that is giving up the goal of having sex with as many women as possible.

Oh sure, there are some dudes who adhere to the adage that "variety is the spice of life" & they want to continue that lifestyle for as long as they possibly can. But you don't strike me as that sort of guy. I have a feeling that if you meet the right one you'll be able to give up the numbers game.

Me? I was never big on building up my numbers just for the hell of it. Not that I didn't have my fair share of brief flings & one night stands back in the day. I was no choirboy that's for sure, But I was always more of a long-term relationship type of guy. So, I meet someone & if we really clicked I'd find myself spending six months, a year, sometimes two years with someone. That went on through most of my 20s until a girl that I'd intended to just have a short fling with turned up pregnant on my doorstep one day as I approached thirty & although I wasn't really in love with her I spent close to eight years living with her. And we had two great kids together but the relationship came to an end & shortly afterward I met my first wife where I worked at the time.

It was an office romance that turned into a bit of a tumultuous ten-year marriage that produced my youngest daughter. I knew that the marriage was a mistake pretty early on but even though we couldn't seem to get along I did love her. So, we tried to keep things going for our daughter but we separated a couple of times before we finally decided to split up for good in 2012.

I spent much of the following five years working on myself by going back to college to get my Bachelor's degree & while I dated a little bit here & there, I wasn't looking for a relationship. Then, in 2017 I met my wife online & the rest is history. We've been pretty much inseparable ever since. Though, believe me, in the beginning, I had my doubts about whether or not she was too good to be true. I'd never had an online relationship before so I was a bit leery about getting catfished. I mean, here was this beautiful, hot, highly intelligent, well-educated chick who earned three times as much as I did at the time & who was 21 years younger than me. I was like "yeah, right..." But over time she gained my trust & when she began sending me expensive gifts I knew for sure that if she was a catfish then she was doing it all wrong. LOL. And of course, we face-timed a lot so I knew that she was who she said she was.

And fast forward to the present & we've been married for going on two years & I couldn't be happier. It took me almost 57 years to find the right relationship for me but I did it. So, there's plenty of hope for you, bro. Until then build those numbers up while you're waiting to find the right one. By all means, have fun. But just try to not sleep with your female friends. At least not the ones that you close to & care about.

Sorry for the length of this reply. I get carried away with my writing sometimes. Peace.
That was a lovely read. Know you and I are good pals here but that was heartfelt and honest to anyone here who doesn't know you. Jana may have been earning 3 x as much but she and you adore each other, Eamon apart from EBay flippinghasn't earned anything since March and all I seem to do is crashing cars and popping tyres. If anything I love him more since March, it isn't down to money when you love someone.
You are a lovely looking couple, you are both clearly smitten madly in love. That's all that counts, friend. And it's awesome that after a few relationships you aren't a cynical bugger.
 
Isnt it interesting that I agree with you and yet I was called names in the other thread for holding religious views and arguably philosophical views on female virginity (its importance) and low laycount number in women?

I think too many men today are destroyed mentally from wickedness. And are divorced from sanity, basic darwinism or even religion and what authetic original texts of all major religions said.

I have and had some female friends in theory id like to bang but some of them wanted to wait to save themselevs for a future husband and 2 did just that. One of them I slept in her bed and she implied we could bang (this was when she was depressed I didnt act on it as I felt it was not right) she met a great guy later. I am glad they did I was never going to marry them. Some guys here would call me gay for that or blue pilled or whatever but I dont care..by the same token I was called Incel in another thread for saying I hold some religious views on sex.

Well, let's be honest here, you do have some unique philosophies & ideas regarding sex & relationships. Not that you're doing anything wrong by having them as long as your actions & behavior don't harm anyone else. So, just be true to your beliefs if they make you happy & you feel good about yourself.

As for whatever names that others call you, pay them no mind. Do your best to ignore the individuals who are being juvenile by calling you those things.
 
That was a lovely read. Know you and I are good pals here but that was heartfelt and honest to anyone here who doesn't know you. Jana may have been earning 3 x as much but she and you adore each other, Eamon apart from EBay flippinghasn't earned anything since March and all I seem to do is crashing cars and popping tyres. If anything I love him more since March, it isn't down to money when you love someone.
You are a lovely looking couple, you are both clearly smitten madly in love. That's all that counts, friend. And it's awesome that after a few relationships you aren't a cynical bugger.
That's where my relationship with belle went sour. She told herself that she wasn't interested, (And made it pretty clear to me) because of my lack of financial success. (She was also screwing someone earning $150000, that is also younger and some say better looking than me). Problem was her behavior didn't really much up to what she said, and I somehow messed up by not reading between the lines.
She was not happy when I told her I had been having sex with an escort and I knew that we couldn't have a serious relationship.
Left me completely confused, as she was fucking everybody and I accepted that. I even hit her up for a threesome (mostly because I know she likes playing dirty) which she said yes to it. Although I have the impression that pissed her off as well.
Basically she likes to treat men like toys of convenience and didn't like me pointing it out, she also loves me for it.
Long story short she left town "to get away from me" even though I hadn't even been anywhere near her. I miss her terribly even though I hardly spent much time with her. Still the only girl that I have actually slept with.
 
No, it isn't misogyny.

I've reached the epiphany that really apart from one friend, anyone who was attractive friend wise I slept with. We didn't because we were really sensible, but pretty much every other above attractive friend/boss/colleage I was good drinking buddies or used to go away on business with.

So..........what's the name of the girl friend you haven't slept with.........
 
What I would say is that the idea "sex changes everything" perhaps isnt as true as common wisdom makes it. I think part of that is actually that it makes such a good plot for dramatic fiction, basically sex is the point were a seriously relationship starts. It can often be the case of course but I wouldn't say its automatically so.
 
No, it isn't misogyny.

I've reached the epiphany that really apart from one friend, anyone who was attractive friend wise I slept with. We didn't because we were really sensible, but pretty much every other above attractive friend/boss/colleage I was good drinking buddies or used to go away on business with.

Fingercuffs just called ugly itt
 
What I would say is that the idea "sex changes everything" perhaps isnt as true as common wisdom makes it. I think part of that is actually that it makes such a good plot for dramatic fiction, basically sex is the point were a seriously relationship starts. It can often be the case of course but I wouldn't say its automatically so.
It does for me.
 
Well, let's be honest here, you do have some unique philosophies & ideas regarding sex & relationships. Not that you're doing anything wrong by having them as long as your actions & behavior don't harm anyone else. So, just be true to your beliefs if they make you happy & you feel good about yourself.

As for whatever names that others call you, pay them no mind. Do your best to ignore the individuals who are being juvenile by calling you those things.

They are unique and minority views in the west. But globally its quite normal my views. In Africa, The Middle East, and much of Asia, in Hinduism, India, Islam, Orthodox judaism, Orthodox Christisnity even. However, the western hemisphere and Europe and Oceania are quite liberal.
 
I think it will be awkward if I sudenlly have sex with some of my female friends lol.

Its more natural for me to be friends with an Ex than have sex sudenly with a long time friend.
 
No, it isn't misogyny.

I've reached the epiphany that really apart from one friend, anyone who was attractive friend wise I slept with. We didn't because we were really sensible, but pretty much every other above attractive friend/boss/colleage I was good drinking buddies or used to go away on business with.

Exactly.

It's the logical consequence. It's always gonna be the elephant in the room otherwise.

It's why I can't become really good friends with a good female friend I have who I help re weight training etc. She's hot, she thinks I look good too, but we both have spouces that we both know and like so it can't go beyond a certain point.
 
Nah, guess I had more friends who were women when I was single but since getting married not so much

don’t really consider coworkers as friends as much as acquaintances although we are friendly,

guess I could, but most of my friends, particularly close ones are dudes ... if they’re married then their wives are sorta friends too but by association
 
Yes, but that's an easy answer, because it's female friends through marriages. Once you're in a relationship, making female friends becomes a lot easier when sex is taken out of the equation.
 
I have two female friends but I banged them both once in the past and now I just hang out with them like buddies. We’re cool.

I’m not really friends with women because they either have sex with me at least once or grow tired of warding off my advances and move on.

I’m fine with hanging out with a chick as friends if I banged her in the distant past. Watch Netflix, play video games, smoke a joint.

But a girl I’ve never slept makes me feel like a wimp. I feel like men should conquer every piece of ass that comes into their lives and then after that you Can be buddies if you want.

i have a few male friends who hang out with girls and help them move and do nice things for girls who would never have sex with them. I shudder and pray that I’ll never become like them.

Is that misogyny or what?

Yes, you're absolutely right. Im only aquaintences with the one's I haven't slept with.
 
A few. Most of them are married, there's an age gap, lesbian, or something like that in the mix. Some have been attractive and single but straight up ghost pussy so no.
 

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