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Why are they moving though? That is another instrinsic problem with capital regulation and control of a socialist paradigm , unless you want to hold people money, by force i guess, anyone can invest in countries or states with lower tax rates, that would mean less investiment, less jobs.

Less jobs don t help poor people in any whatsoever.

Capitalists dont look to "create jobs"...that's another myth. If that were true no corporations would have taken lucrative PPP loans during COVID and used them for stock buy-backs while still laying off THOUSANDS of workers those funds were intended for. They absolutely did, and got away with it. Know what stops that? Laws against it. Oh and speaking of COVID I'll just quickly mention the MASSIVE amount of money the Trump Administration pumped into Wall Street which did NO good. Companies are still posting record profits and at the same time, laying off workers. LinkedIn just did this. Retail stores closing locations that are poorly managed and lying about the reasons (blaming poor people/theft) to appease their shareholders, all this helps the poor? Nope.

Companies move to red States to dodge taxation, find exploitable workers (children and the elderly are becoming popular with legislation raising retirement age and rolling back child labor), and for bigger subsudies from corporatists who advertise "small Gubment." Nothing more.
 
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Capitalists dont look to "create jobs"...that's another myth. If that were true no corporations would have taken lucrative PPP loans during COVID and used them for stock buy-backs while still laying odd THOUSANDS of workers those funds were intended for. They absolutely did, and got away with it. Know what stops that? Laws against it. Oh and speaking of COVID I'll just quickly mention the MASSIVE amount of money the Trump Administration pumped into Wall Street which did NO good. Companies are still posting record profits and at the same time, laying off workers. LinkedIn just did this. Retail stores closing locations that are poorly managed and lying about the reasons (blaming poor people/theft) to appease their shareholders, all this helps the poor? Nope.

Companies move to red States to dodge taxation, find exploitable workers (children and the elderly are becoming popular with legislation against resisting retirement age and rolling back child labor), and for bigger subsudies from corporatists who advertise "small Gubment." Nothing more.
So its Louis Vitton fault the people makes very poor decisions, like buying luxury items with welfare checks? Its their fault? That actually happen the french became the richest man in the world due to that phenomeon and you blame capitalism for the freedom of people buying options. lol

How can you have companies without workers? How in a free economic environment where there's free and healthy competition, can you hire someone without pay him well enough?

What destroys this healthy environment are socialist regulations because makes it isn't possible to creat companies due to heavy taxation,creating less opportunies to create more jobs, and now importing now millions of unskilled immigrants who lower the wages to add to the mix (but this was the opposite in the 90s Clinton was against mass immigration and the republicans were)
 
I did? Where did I "praise" them?

You are the one making a continual argument that the US is uniquely better than everyone else. I don't need to praise other Countries to dispel that myth.

Once again the US didnt Warner economic success through pure capitalism. Mixed economy.
By every metric possible it's, it was the country who revolutionise modern democracy, and invented the economic model that we have today including in europe.
 
So its Louis Vitton fault the people makes very poor decisions, like buying luxury items with welfare checks? Its their fault? That actually happen the french became the richest man in the world due to that phenomeon and you blame capitalism for the freedom of people buying options. lol

How can you have companies without workers? How in a free economic environment where there's free and healthy competition, can you hire someone without pay him well enough?

What destroys this healthy environment are socialist regulations because makes it isn't possible to creat companies due to heavy taxation,creating less opportunies to create more jobs, and now importing now millions of unskilled immigrants who lower the wages to add to the mix (but this was the opposite in the 90s Clinton was against mass immigration and the republicans were)

Your first paragraph is a red herring. Its something I never suggested nor does it belong in the discussion.

Your second paragraph is arguing in idealism, which proponents of capitalism ironically often accuse anyone who disagrees of. Sure with all things perfect you pay people sufficient wages. But when are all things perfect? I'm sure you'll sell me the idea that when less Government happens this comes about. Except it Historically NEVER does. What did come about were Company Towns. Corporations paying workers insufficient wages in currencies that were useless outside of the towns they lived in. Corporations that owned houses and charged higher for them than workers made. We got the Battle of Blair Mountain, where the Government actually suppressed a worker uprising on behalf of the corporations. Because the US and corporations were always so friendly to the common man lol And that's not even counting the outright slave labor pur corporations use in other Countries via bribing their Governments and ours to look the other way on it.

You are living through one of the greatest transfers of wealth from the working class to the wealthy, a time of unprecedented corporate concentration where all of our food and entertainment are coming from a handful of corporations, while banking and housing crises happen. This is the result of de-regulation. Your religious faith in the noble "American Corporation" notwithstanding.
 
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By every metric possible it's, it was the country who revolutionise modern democracy, and invented the economic model that we have today including in europe.

Yes, the model of representative Government, which needed a Civil War to correct. And a mixed economy. Although I'm not even sure we can lay claim to the idea of mixed economies, either. However it seems silly to compare that success to the Soviet Union, which got no significant period of uninterrupted existence and access to global trade, yet still managed to compete with us in many aspects of industrialization, which is a fact...not praise, just so you're aware.
 
I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.

“Bad news, detective. We got a situation.”

“What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?”

“Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.”

The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?”

“Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.”

“Easy, chief,” I said. “Any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.”

He laughed. “That’s why you’re the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.”

“Don’t worry,” I said. “I’m on it.”

I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside.

“Home Depot™ Presents the Police!®” I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. “Nobody move unless you want to!” They didn’t.

“Now, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?” No one spoke up.

“Come on,” I said. “Don’t you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?”

It didn’t seem like they did.

“Seriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, I’m just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.”

Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing.

I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it.

“Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!®” I yelled.

Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.

“Stop right there!” I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen.

I was losing him. “Listen, I’ll pay you to stop!” I yelled. “What would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? I’ll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn ‘Bob Barr ‘08’ extra-large long-sleeved men’s T-shirt!”

He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.

“All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.”

“Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy.

“Because I was afraid.”

“Afraid?”

“Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.”

I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head.

“Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.”

He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me for arresting him.
 
Yes, the model of representative Government, which needed a Civil War to correct. And a mixed economy. Although I'm not even sure we can lay claim to the idea of mixed economies, either. However it seems silly to compare that success to the Soviet Union, which got no significant period of uninterrupted existence and access to global trade, yet still managed to compete with us in many aspects of industrialization, which is a fact...not praise, just so you're aware.
Soviet Union would be condammed regardless with their economic policy, as you saw in the decades of the cold war, couldn't compete with us at all.

And you claiming several times they were "invaded", after the first war and the bolshevick revolution not a single western power had strength to have a war much less invading soviet union. Not sure were did you saw that invasion in 1928.
 
Your first paragraph is a red herring. Its something I never suggested nor does it belong in the discussion.

Your second paragraph is arguing in idealism, which proponents of capitalism ironically often accuse anyone who disagrees of. Sure with all things perfect you pay people sufficient wages. But when are all things perfect? I'm sure you'll sell me the idea that when less Government happens this comes about. Except it Historically NEVER does. What did come about were Company Towns. Corporations paying workers insufficient wages in currencies that were useless outside of the towns they lived in. Corporations that owned houses and charged higher for them than workers made. We got the Battle of Blair Mountain, where the Government actually suppressed a worker uprising on behalf of the corporations. Because the US and corporations were always so friendly to the common man lol And that's not even counting the outright slave labor pur corporations use in other Countries via bribing their Governments and ours to look the other way on it.

You are living through one of the greatest transfers of wealth from the working class to the wealthy, a time of unprecedented corporate concentration where all of our food and entertainment are coming from a handful of corporations, while banking and housing crises happen. This is the result of de-regulation. Your religious faith in the noble "American Corporation" notwithstanding.
Im also not disputing that people shouldn't have any rights or the companies should do anything with the workers, i even consider unions in general as a positive thing.

I was debating the notion of freedom of less taxation, the freedom of a company to operate without having to pay enormous taxes to the gouvernment misusing then like they do almost all the time. Btw the nordics countries who are very renomed by their "socialist" ways they tax heavily the tax payer as individual and barely corporate taxes by comparaison , sounds very libertarian doesn't?
 
Soviet Union would be condammed regardless with their economic policy, as you saw in the decades of the cold war, couldn't compete with us at all.

And you claiming several times they were "invaded", after the first war and the bolshevick revolution not a single western power had strength to have a war much less invading soviet union. Not sure were did you saw that invasion in 1928.

They couldnt compete with us at all? We literally allied with Nazis, I'm sorry "former" Nazis to compete with their space program. Oh and enlisted the help of a few genius black women who we refused to Historically acknowledge or desegregate for at the moment of their contribution. I grew up during some of the Red Scare, I remember nuclear strike drills in our elementary school classrooms, but yeah, they were no threat to us lol. Hell they were so much of a threat Russians were the villains in literally every other action movie to stoke our collective hatred for them.

The Allies intervened in the Russian Revolution on behalf of the anti-Bolsheviks:


Do you even History Bro?

That lasted formally until 1925. WWII happened not long after.
 
They couldnt compete with us at all? We literally allied with Nazis, I'm sorry "former" Nazis to compete with their space program. Oh and enlisted the help of a few genius black women who we refused to Historically acknowledge or desegregate for at the moment of their contribution. I grew up during some of the Red Scare, I remember nuclear strike drills in our elementary school classrooms, but yeah, they were no threat to us lol. Hell they were so much of a threat Russians were the villains in literally every other action movie to stoke our collective hatred for them.

The Allies intervened in the Russian Revolution on behalf of the anti-Bolsheviks:


Do you even History Bro?

That lasted formally until 1925. WWII happened not long after.
Are you also aware they did the same as us, using german scientistics to developed a lot of their technology. Maybe more actually. And no point talking about minorities rights, we are talking about a state were siberian, caucasus minorities were ravaged in a way people could only dream in America. They were a security threat not an economic one, even Japan with less population had almost the same weight economically has them .

Yeah im very sure it was a half dozen of brits that tilt the the civil russian war and stopped the communist dream, lol
 
Conservatards are free to fuck off to Argentina. A win win for everyone, you get to suffer the consequences of living under unhinged far right leadership and we get to enjoy life unpolluted by your bullshit :D
I'm surprised no one has accused me of being this dude yet.
 
Im also not disputing that people shouldn't have any rights or the companies should do anything with the workers, i even consider unions in general as a positive thing.

I was debating the notion of freedom of less taxation, the freedom of a company to operate without having to pay enormous taxes to the gouvernment misusing then like they do almost all the time. Btw the nordics countries who are very renomed by their "socialist" ways they tax heavily the tax payer as individual and barely corporate taxes by comparaison , sounds very libertarian doesn't?

Well, who enforces and sanctions Unions? Unions cannot exist without Government backing.

Eh, slight misrepresentation. Corporate tax rate in Norway is only 22%, but there's also National contributions corporations pay, as well as surtaxes for larger industries
 
Soviet Union would be condammed regardless with their economic policy, as you saw in the decades of the cold war, couldn't compete with us at all.

And you claiming several times they were "invaded", after the first war and the bolshevick revolution not a single western power had strength to have a war much less invading soviet union. Not sure were did you saw that invasion in 1928.
If the soviets couldn't compete with the US, why did the US wage the cold war and risk global nuclear annihilation, in an attempt to destroy the soviets? Totally incoherent given the historical record.
 
Well, who enforces and sanctions Unions? Unions cannot exist without Government backing.

Eh, slight misrepresentation. Corporate tax rate in Norway is only 22%, but there's also National contributions corporations pay, as well as surtaxes for larger industries
Enforcing the law with fines for exemple doesnt require a big gouverment with a lot of burocrats or bodies of justice, of course that's is not what they want.

Maybe so, but is less that the individual tax payer regardless who can pay up to a whooping 55% wich i dont agree also.
 
If the soviets couldn't compete with the US, why did the US wage the cold war and risk global nuclear annihilation, in an attempt to destroy the soviets? Totally incoherent given the historical record.
one thing is military might another is economic might, wich they were not particular good, that's why they collapsed and we reign as undisputed super power. And if we retain our freedom we are going to continuously so.. but of course for many libs the notion of american hegemony/supremacy its a no.no.. that's why they want to destroy our foundations. Nobody can beat us except ourselves.
 
one thing is military might another is economic might, wich they were not particular good, that's why they collapsed and we reign as undisputed super power. And if we retain our freedom we are going to continuously so.. but of course for many libs the notion of american hegemony/supremacy its a no.no.. that's why they want to destroy our foundations. Nobody can beat us except ourselves.
It's not that difficult to understand why a planet with one superpower is a recipe for disaster. There's no balance.

Every evil empire in the history of the world, thought of itself as the good guys. You are no different. Just an npc doing what's expected.
 
Are you also aware they did the same as us, using german scientistics to developed a lot of their technology. Maybe more actually. And no point talking about minorities rights, we are talking about a state were siberian, caucasus minorities were ravaged in a way people could only dream in America. They were a security threat not an economic one, even Japan with less population had almost the same weight economically has them .

Yeah im very sure it was a half dozen of brits that tilt the the civil russian war and stopped the communist dream, lol

Sure, so neither Nation was beyond that practice. Although its very sanitized here in the US. I cant speak for Russia. Ravaged the way people could only dream in America? So now the Native genocide here was somehow more humane? Come on. Natives were also looked at as a security threat, not merely an economic one.

Closer to 60k British troops, and that was just them.
 
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